man i am in michigan , in april i planted a big ol bag of just bagseed all over the place outside my house and behind all the houses on my alley. i also germed a couple at home for me to experiment with . the only weed growin here is in my house not one seed i planted outside grew. belive it or not i tryed to get them out of the ground, natta nothin. i also tryed in a cup for 3 days nothin, took the same seeds in paper towel and they popped in less than 12 hours , maybe if i left them they would have opened but then again they never sank in the water . guess there are alot of variables!!!