Dalek Supreme
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DAYAM! Look at all the graffiti around here. It's creative, but I'll go and learn something instead.
Laterz...
Laterz...
What would prove GOD does/doesn't exists?
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Padawanbater2
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Then why does every holy religious text aside from a handful express the belief that "only God's chosen people will gain entrance to the Kingdom of Heaven"?
"Chosen people"
It is this belief that causes holy wars. God chose me over you, I'm better than you by decree, by birth, by natural right.
THAT'S what causes wars.
Az-uar Iam
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Stop trying to be right all the time and see that's exactly what I was saying. You/people only know what they've been tricked into seeing as fact, instead of understanding what's been done to make sure we don't progress beyond this point.
God has no favorites. NOTHING Matters
Padawanbater2
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That's about the farthest thing from organized religion I've ever heard of
iHearAll
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i think you guys are actually arguing the same points
Az-uar Iam
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What I'm saying is, we're fighting ourselves. Never fell for the trap of seeing everything as a threat. Defending myself has nothing to do with being tricked into accepting that this is the way it has to be.
iHearAll
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exactly. defending is done at home. but defending others is also something ti condider. is this the trap you're referring to? or is it the 17yo girl hitting me up. im joking
Olive Drab Green
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I have always thought you were cool, and still do. It is not belief that causes wars, it is misbelief and zeal. One can believe without trying to change the beliefs of others. And if one believes with the desire for personal growth and not with the desire to be right or to persuade others they are right, they are a True Believer.
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Olive Drab Green
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All you will learn pertains to this world, not the one in between them all. You should cultivate your soul as you would a plant, or exercise your soul as you would a muscle, or you will lack proper balance. I've been learning this much more recently, myself.
Dalek Supreme
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Translation: All you will learn pertains to this world, not the one that's chemically induced schizophrenia. You should cultivate your imagination as you would a plant, or exercise your imagination as you would a muscle, or you will just use logic, and reason. I've been abusing my neurochemistry much more recently, and convinced myself it's a pathway to truth.
"Another way to express the prevalence of schizophrenia at any give time is the number of individuals affected per 1,000 total population. In the United States that figure is 7.2 per 1,000. This means that a city of 3 million people will have over 21,000 individuals suffering from schizophrenia."
http://www.schizophrenia.com/szfacts.htm#
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Az-uar Iam
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What knowledge do you have that's of your own account? Because it seems that your Dopamine explanation, while a good 1, is just another pattern in/of itself by someone you assume is smart enough, that you allow them to speak for you.
Padawanbater2
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""What’s important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred, this particular reason for hating you is secondary, hence the reason we addressed it at the end of the above list.
"The fact is, even if you were to stop bombing us, imprisoning us, torturing us, vilifying us, and usurping our lands, we would continue to hate you because our primary reason for hating you will not cease to exist until you embrace Islam.""
'Why we hate you': ISIS reveal 6 reasons why they despise Westerners in jihadi magazine
Az-uar Iam
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I ain't doing shit 2 you. The fact you assume this of my doing let's me kno that Islam is no better than Christianity. In my younger days I would've said to hell with you both, because it seems you both use "God" as an excuse to destroy any other form of enlightenment. Now, I just laugh because you think you're doing "His" work.
You hate everything & that's ok.
Padawanbater2
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Slow down there, sport..
I didn't write that, an ISIS affiliated magazine did. They hate you because you don't believe the same thing they do: Islam
Anything that could infect a mind to such an extent cannot possibly come from a god as described by any religious text, it's a contradiction
They're saying that even if we [American led coalition into Muslim lands] stop invading and killing Muslims, they will still hate us because we are not Muslim, and this is not unique to Islam. American Christians share many of the same kinds of feelings about their belief in God and others lack of belief. Atheists in America enjoy no protection from discrimination or prejudice against the things we believe.
Religion would be great if it wasn't so goddamn awful
Az-uar Iam
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My bad. Didn't notice the "". Religion can never be great, because it's creation was made to control. It's obviously goes against any true understanding of "God" because we were given the abilty to choose.
Its a shame we don't notice that we've been set up to fail.
Its a shame we don't notice that we've been set up to fail.
Dalek Supreme
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First off science is not opinion. It's evidence based, and changes based on evidence. Of course you know this, but had to get it out of the way.
As for me:
I did LSD when I was younger. I see how people would think of it as some paranormal experience. The thing is it's manifesting the subconscious because of the neurochemical roadblocking going on.
For instance while tripping in the woods I went to urinate. I was urinating when I realized I better be careful because I was away from the group. That instance Predator (from the movie of the same name) appeared in the distance. It was cloaked, jumping from tree to tree coming towards me till it lept at me with me laughing knowing it was an hallucination. The point is as soon I thought of danger my subconscious dumped it's normal background processes into my visual processes. It gave me a different kind of predator instead of the woodsy kind. Now think of what the subconscious would come up with when someone is of the mindset that such a drugs opens your mind to the "spirit world"?
I had a relative that was schizo-typal (not full on). She would make irrational connections to things to support her views while completely ignoring the rational against it. She would think that words of reason would somehow manifest to mess things up. She would sometimes hallucinate things, and think she was being told a message. She had imaginary enemies out of Hollywood celebrities. Yet to people unaware of this would think she was normal.
On rare occasions I would have a waking hallucination. Now thanks to science I know it's just dreamstate neurochemistry following me in my awake state.
One time I had a Dopamine dump brought on by sleep deprivation. I saw auras around objects. I felt euphoric, and felt at one with the universe through spatial displacement. Irrational concepts made perfect sense. I also see how addictive the experience can be to people. People who fast, and meditate for this experience are seen as noble, but in reality are Dope addicts.
So yes I speak from experience, and understanding through science.
People want to abuse their brains, and think their word salad contains truth because it feels good. When one thinks they have special knowledge that's not demonstrable, it's the ancient motivating part of the brain that's overriding the modern thinking part.