Sassafras¥
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If they died believing that then they will be in heaven also. It's not up to me nor you to decide that.
What would prove GOD does/doesn't exists?
- Thread starter Az-uar Iam
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Padawanbater2
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The idea that if you believe in God during your life just in case, then, when you die if God doesn't exist, you didn't lose anything is flawed for many reasons;
1. an omnipotent God would know your reasons for believing in him. If you believe in him just to avoid Hell, you don't actually believe in him
2. believing in God costs time, money and in some cases, blood. If it turns out God isn't real, you've lost all the time you spent during your life believing he did, you've lost all the money you spent in your pursuit to know him and those that make the ultimate sacrifice actually lose everything they have ever known: their existence
3. you lose what could have been had you not believed in God
The cost of belief without evidence is absolutely staggering, although those with belief will never know why
Jacob Alexander Jones
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I believe that many viewpoints on religion are misunderstood. Since everybody has their own beliefs when it comes to goodness and morality, we will all find out when we die.
Jacob Alexander Jones
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But I believe that there is a god
Az-uar Iam
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To who? If it could be explained, we wouldn't be able to accept it.
ttystikk
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If a thing cannot be explained, it can't be examined. If it can't be examined then there's nothing to go on.
We can examine and explain lightning, gravity and Google. We live in an age of reason.
Blind faith is for fools and the charlatans who would lead them.
Az-uar Iam
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It explains itself, but no one is paying attention.
Gotta change the way we look at nothing because it's the key to seeing the truth.
Jacob Alexander Jones
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Jacob Alexander Jones
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Faith is what everyone in the world needs.
justugh
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faith is the worst thing in the world
faith that my god is the right god and he wants everyone to think the way i do .......is the cause of most of the death in the world (all time number 1 reason for killing is in the name of god )
look at all the terror in the world ....look at isis they have faith
religion is just the first form of control ever made and is still in effect.......ppl are dumb scared beast that need something to explain what happen ( will of god)
Jacob Alexander Jones
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Sorry let me restate what I said..."Christian faith is what this world needs." Yes there are many different types of faith out there. And yes there are killings based on those types of faith. There is a line you have to draw that justifies killing for faith. If you kill because your religion believes that it is better off for yourself and others and think that it is the only way of life, then they are mistaken. Tell that to the rest of the world that believes otherwise. That's why sometimes war happens. There are people out there that believe killing for religion is evil. That's why they call them terrorists. If there was less killing in this world from religious beliefs, war would be reduced a lot less.
Jacob Alexander Jones
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And God has nothing to do with people killing people. He let's individuals have their own free will to do what the want. And in the end when it comes down to faith, what you believe in is your choice. There are individuals out there that would love to have peace without religious killings happening everyday.
ttystikk
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That's circular logic at best, or just navel gazing.
The truth is what we can sense, affect and measure.
Faith is immeasurable. It isn't truth; it's truthiness.
ttystikk
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Christians have killed millions in the name of their faith. Fuck their faith.
ttystikk
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Really? And you can prove this how?
Jacob Alexander Jones
Member
God is not the one who does the killing. Its the minds of the individuals who lack good morals
justugh
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yes it is the pope sanctions the actions .....as he is god main man on earth god is directly linked to it
crusades witch hunts conversions of the jewish race from 1500-1750s (do it or we burn u rape u torment u until u die)
that whole passion of christ thing is fake it was a play written back in the 1000's to incite anger to the jewish culture ....and they play it off as holy thing
it is simple really is .....no one wants to admit it because it gives the control back to the masses then the set of chosen few
Jewish Christian Muslim are all the same god ....just different path up the mountain (all goes to same place ) .....u do not need a priest a rabbi or what ever to get to god u can do it on your own if u are just willing to learn
the only religion that can claim they are peace love and understanding is Buddhist ......the rest of them can not they all have a long history of being dicks to others
justugh
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u want a good read
the hammer of witches or Malleus Maleficarum
http://www.malleusmaleficarum.org/downloads/MalleusAcrobat.pdf
your beloved church book on how to torture ppl to get them to confess ....a book on how to kill ppl that the church backed
i am twisted person .....but some of the stuff in there is just down right fucked up to the point anyone that fallowed if earns a spot in hell (going under the churchs thinking) and they had priest doing this to other ppl
the hammer of witches or Malleus Maleficarum
http://www.malleusmaleficarum.org/downloads/MalleusAcrobat.pdf
your beloved church book on how to torture ppl to get them to confess ....a book on how to kill ppl that the church backed
i am twisted person .....but some of the stuff in there is just down right fucked up to the point anyone that fallowed if earns a spot in hell (going under the churchs thinking) and they had priest doing this to other ppl
Az-uar Iam
Active Member
I have faith in nothing which allows truth to reveal itself.
Faith is measured everyday in what's done in the name, but they're many truths that we will never be able to sense, affect or measure.