Cold$moke
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I had my time with coco many years agoCame to the same conclusion doing RDWC system ( great results) but after research now switching to Coco
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I had my time with coco many years agoCame to the same conclusion doing RDWC system ( great results) but after research now switching to Coco
The misting systems seem to be very particular and risky, and the film system ... well to put it bluntly both are out of my comfort zone and knowledge base very curious to see your results and directionI had my time with coco many years ago
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Lol i also had my time with spray systems ha haThe misting systems seem to be very particular and risky, and the film system ... well to put it bluntly both are out of my comfort zone and knowledge base very curious to see your results and direction
Right on bro I’ll look that up.Lol i also had my time with spray systems ha ha
This next one is going to be a meniscus nft table
Ill be building in a few weeks you can find it in my journal when i do
https://www.rollitup.org/t/cold-mokes-frost-heave.959456/
Ha ha dont mind the plant i have in there now they are slow montster crop plants lolRight on bro I’ll look that up
I actually had been following your thread with your RDWC super clean set up scrog looks beautiful ... I’ll be waiting to see your new set upHa ha dont mind the plant i have in there now they are slow montster crop plants lol
Nice thanksI actually had been following your thread with your RDWC super clean set up scrog looks beautiful ... I’ll be waiting to see your new set up
So I just finished an article on PGRs ... so they seem to change the plant structures by either enhancing growth or slows it down “ The term PGR has come to include many things, and not all of them are harmful. Some of the of major classifications of plant growth regulators are auxins, cytokinins, ethylene generators, gibberellins and growth inhibitors/retardants. Auxins elongate shoots. They are primarily used to increase growth, flower formation and to increase root mass.“ it doesn’t sound like PGRs are necessarily bad I know that there is some legalities about them being used for human consumption but what negatives would they have actually in the plant and one who consumes it?Here is what Green Leaf said about Gravitron. Be aware!
"Gravitron has PGR's, so unless you really know what that is, I wouldn't use it. MEGA is definitely essential, Sweet Candy works pretty well in Coco which makes a good option if you want to boost carbs!"
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Gravitron has PaclobutrazolThat’s funny I was just emailing Greenleaf about gravitron and they warned me against it not sure why as I definitely would like the qualities that come along with this product to be emulated in my plants
Ill look up PGRs and see what and why they are making a product they are warning people against
it depends on which ones you use, triacontonal is produced in the waxy walls of plants and vegetables, and in bees wax. alfalfa meal is a good source, and it's totally harmless, as far as i can discover. brassinolide is another pgr thats harmless as far as research can determine, and significantly boosts plant metabolism. properly used 6-bap can boost flowering and fruiting in all kinds of plants.So I just finished an article on PGRs ... so they seem to change the plant structures by either enhancing growth or slows it down “ The term PGR has come to include many things, and not all of them are harmful. Some of the of major classifications of plant growth regulators are auxins, cytokinins, ethylene generators, gibberellins and growth inhibitors/retardants. Auxins elongate shoots. They are primarily used to increase growth, flower formation and to increase root mass.“ it doesn’t sound like PGRs are necessarily bad I know that there is some legalities about them being used for human consumption but what negatives would they have actually in the plant and one who consumes it?
Thanks for the reply amd explaination ... I’m gonna pick some up Amd give it a try... After reading a bit about it I agree with you ...Gravitron has Paclobutrazol
If you do any growing for and medical or recreational states that require testing certificates, this will probably disqualify it. Its a bit controversial if it is dangerous at all, but we might just axe the product completely or make a version without PGR. In EU its fine and acceptable for crops, and they have high standards.
Really I can’t find anything that awful about the chemicalit depends on which ones you use, triacontonal is produced in the waxy walls of plants and vegetables, and in bees wax. alfalfa meal is a good source, and it's totally harmless, as far as i can discover. brassinolide is another pgr thats harmless as far as research can determine, and significantly boosts plant metabolism. properly used 6-bap can boost flowering and fruiting in all kinds of plants.
i've heard bad things about paclobutrazol, but the data i can find doesn't look that terrible. however, i still wouldn't use it.
http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/risk/rcd/paclobut.pdf
yeah, the main problem now, is legal and medical states require laboratory testing of buds and finished product, and this will show up on testing and disqualify it. So that is why we are advising people not to purchase it without really doing their research first!Really I can’t find anything that awful about the chemical
Paclobutrazol is a plant growth retardant and triazole fungicide. It is a known antagonist of the plant hormone gibberellin.
Seems like it stimulates production of Bud by slowing thing down...
Well I’ll do a little bit more research before pull the trigger on this product but if it has good results from other users I might give a try ... supposed to be equal to Humboldt gravity well hopefully they’ll make a similar product without the PGRs in it
I know Humboldt gravity had problems some years ago they had to pull it then came out with g-10. You even mention it in the description of your product. Do you know if g-10 uses the same pgr as gravitation?yeah, the main problem now, is legal and medical states require laboratory testing of buds and finished product, and this will show up on testing and disqualify it. So that is why we are advising people not to purchase it without really doing their research first!
I'm pretty sure G-10 doesn't use any PGR, its mostly kelp extract afaik.I know Humboldt gravity had problems some years ago they had to pull it then came out with g-10. You even mention it in the description of your product. Do you know if g-10 uses the same pgr as gravitation?