What's Will All The Religion Hatred?

olylifter420

olylifter420

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Seriously man, don't even pretend like you understand what that kid is talking about. You read the title of the video, thought "HOLY SHIT!" and came and posted it here thinking it supported what you're talking about. I see right through that shit, just so you know.
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what are you trying to prove? how much of a big shit you really are? come back to your reality and see it for what it is.

Show me the "proof" where i said i now what he is talking about? Please show me, or the burden falls on you.

Also, i had already seen that video along ass time ago. You are truly the thing you talk so bad about
 
sso

sso

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.. this could all be a bubble in the mind of god, heck this could even be the matrix! :D :laugh:

and it does not matter.

not really.

im still enjoying a good party, a good spliff and a good fuck.

i love to sleep in a comfy bed and have a ridiculous conversation about everything.

sun is shining and birds are singing.

gods not here, but you are.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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I read that three times and I'm still not sure what you're trying to say...
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how convenient, deflection.

Same issue with this man.. I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say..
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ignorance

How do you know what is true and what is false? I use science, science has ways to quantify what is true and what isn't.
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i see, deflection
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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sso said:
and it would be ridiculous for us to claim any supremacy in knowledge or absolute certainty about our methods and findings.

i still think we need that doubt about everything, to be able to fully learn at the pace we can.
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I've never claimed absolute certainty about the scientific method. I've claimed it's the best method we have to discern reality. Do you disagree with that? If you do, what method is better and why?
 
sso

sso

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olylifter420 said:
what are you trying to prove? how much of a big shit you really are? come back to your reality and see it for what it is.

Show me the "proof" where i said i now what he is talking about? Please show me, or the burden falls on you.

Also, i had already seen that video along ass time ago. You are truly the thing you talk so bad about
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he´s saying scientists are so smart that you should just shutup and listen :)
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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So does that mean that because London is an actual city in the Harry Potter series, Harry Potter is true too?
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i had to read that over and over, but it still means nothing or shows nothing
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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olylifter420 said:
you really need to look past the things that best suit your defense. it really makes you look foolish.

just in case you and pad do not understand what i am saying when i say "personal preference" is that it depends on what you want to study or learn, not on what shape the dumb moon is or whatever else pad said about that. Are you going to learn things you wish to learn or something someone is going to force you to learn? No, it is your own preference or interest in a certain subject of field of study.



which is your own personal preference or interest. jeez, how many more times do i have to say that so you all can understand? you learns about things that help you with your discussion because you chose to learn about your defense, correct?



there is no burden on me, you all do the same, why cant i? Oh, i get, cause i believe in God.
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The concept of burden of proof is well established and has nothing to do with your belief in God. Do you not know this, or are you just employing a cheap trick? Do you find pad and I not supporting our assertions? My critical analysis of your belief have nothing to do with belittlement. That is just another example of playing the hurt card. Again, if it hurts you to have others examine your beliefs and point out errors, don't express them in a forum meant for discussion and debate. Several people here have pointed out errors in my thinking, yet I didn't get mad and claim belittlement.
 
sso

sso

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Padawanbater2 said:

I've never claimed absolute certainty about the scientific method. I've claimed it's the best method we have to discern reality. Do you disagree with that? If you do, what method is better and why?
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no, i do not agree with that, i personally use the same methods, more or less..

im just saying, humans are still fallible, dont believe everything you read.

even though something makes good sense, its not necesseraly the truth or the whole of it.

lol, damn tired, many typos :)

it makes sense, to keep your options open regarding truth. and especially concerning the truth of others and truth you dont understand yet.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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sso said:
now you are being somewhat foolish.
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He was pointing out the implications of your assertion that if the bible mentions true historical cities, then it is not false. I agree, the idea that the bible is factual is foolish.
 
olylifter420

olylifter420

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That is just another example of playing the hurt card.
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you are worse then the "birthers!"

Again, if it hurts you to have others examine your beliefs and point out errors, don't express them in a forum meant for discussion and debate.
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i have addressed this already in the past, if you missed it i am sorry for that, if you want you go and do your own research and you will find your answer.

Several people here have pointed out errors in my thinking, yet I didn't get mad and claim belittlement.
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cause you want to seem like some guru or some type of monk
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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sso said:
now you are being somewhat foolish.
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You said that if things in the Bible are true, it must be true (or something to that regard), what I said seemed to apply. If something in Harry Potter is true too, does that make the story true?

The cities were around when the Bible was written, and they still exist today. That supports the idea that the Bible is true again... how?

To me, that just means the people who wrote the Bible knew of these cities.
 
sso

sso

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Heisenberg said:
He was pointing out the implications of your assertion that if the bible mentions true historical cities, then it is not false. I agree, the idea that the bible is factual is foolish.
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true, but certain places that are mentioned in the bible (as well as the indian texts bhagasomething lol)

have been reported to be found.

making at least some things in the bible, true.

as it is really a collection of myths. (many of which were stolen from older stories and the names changed, similar to what people claim the catholic church did, so did the hebrews)

it does not necesarily infer that all the miracles and whatnot are true.

after all, fakirs of india fly with the help of special seats, but still many people have stories of them actually flying..

but, it does infer that there is some truth in the bible.

and not on par with harry potter ;)

but sorry gents, im invited to dinner :) i´ll see you guy´s later :)

have a good one and dont take this too seriously.

serious people dont live as long and if they do, they are nowhere near as happy :laugh: (oh ive seen and been both sides)
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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sso said:
no, i do not agree with that, i personally use the same methods, more or less..
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I'm sorry, I'm still unclear what you mean, you do not agree that the scientific method is the best system to acquire knowledge, and you think there is something better, or you do?

sso said:
im just saying, humans are still fallible, dont believe everything you read.
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What, in your experience of viewing my posts, would make you think I would believe anything simply because I read it?

I got to where I am now by fact checking EVERYTHING. Then checking them again.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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olylifter420 said:
you are worse then the "birthers!"
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How so?

i have addressed this already in the past, if you missed it i am sorry for that, if you want you go and do your own research and you will find your answer.
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This was advice. I did not expect you to address it.

cause you want to seem like some guru or some type of monk
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So when others point out my errors in my thinking and I accept those errors, that is somehow wrong? What behavior should I display? Should I cry hurt and stomp my feet in defense of errors? You are engaging in desperate attempts to poison the well and discredit me via ad hominem attacks. After months of reading about these things and why they are invalid in a debate, you still practice them.
 
sso

sso

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Padawanbater2 said:
You said that if things in the Bible are true, it must be true (or something to that regard), what I said seemed to apply. If something in Harry Potter is true too, does that make the story true?

The cities were around when the Bible was written, and they still exist today. That supports the idea that the Bible is true again... how?

To me, that just means the people who wrote the Bible knew of these cities.
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no, you are thinking im christian, im not, im not of any faith but my own.

and i have complete faith that i exist, probably :D lol

ive said many time that, the bible is hogwash, bullshit, for the most part.

it has some truth in it, and some lovely philosophy

but mostly its total and utter crap, fit as a amusing curio or toiletpaper if you run out.

(since the truth in it and useful things are rather scarce and easily remembered after a single read)

ok see you guys later :)
 
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