What's Will All The Religion Hatred?

Oscar Zeta Acosta

Oscar Zeta Acosta

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I feel like the further we develope the less place we have in society for religion. The evolution of science is becoming so solid that people can't help but hold greater faith in it than most of the other gods out there, which means at some point in time we could see the eradication of some of the oldest traditions and beliefs as well as maybe a more solid, but smaller sect of believers cast from possible proof of religious stories. Finding an ancient religious artifact or city might just help with that, though as with most things of historical significance it would be behind a vault door with no public admittance.

My money's on Noah's ark. Lol

Either way for the time being I see more and more people getting fed up of religion being the drive behind so much death and despair. Its probably going to hit boiling point soon if we don't manage to take away the misinterpretations and extremism out of some of the various religious holy text.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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cannabineer said:
What would lead you to believe in Bigfoot? All I've seen/heard is ... testimony, and you already know my opinion of that. No physical evidence of any sort afaik, not even a bone, or any other source of biochemical markers. cn
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Well besides some pretty good videos there are audio recordings, tracks, hair and fecal samples. The only reason no serious testing is done on it is because scientist wont touch it with a flagpole in order to preserve their reputation.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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mindphuk said:
An actual bigfoot would seriously undermine the idea of human evolution. As far as we know, hominids are the only species that evolved the capability to walk upright. If we find more primates that walk upright, that's one thing, finding them on the North American continent would be incredible.
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Bigfoot (bigfoots?) are hominids. They arent some mythical magical creatures. And they have been reported on 4 continents, not just NA.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Kaendar said:
Bigfoot (bigfoots?) are hominids. They arent some mythical magical creatures. And they have been reported on 4 continents, not just NA.
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So you're proposing they followed the migration of humans? How come they do not act like a migratory species or leave any evidence of their existence until quite recently?

Sorry bub, you have been taken in by one of the biggest hoaxes of all time.
 
Doer

Doer

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Kaendar said:
Bigfoot (bigfoots?) are hominids. They arent some mythical magical creatures. And they have been reported on 4 continents, not just NA.
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There have been un-confimed sightings of all manner of things. But, just like UFOs, there are only stories of sightings. Modern stories, now, with modern "evidence." When we have hunted down all the large game in NorAm, will someone ever tag a UFO or a bigfoot?

Hunters are killed every year by themselves but never a bigfoot brought down. Loggers are all over those mountains, even fying helicopters over remote glens. And who is to say? Maybe there is no bigfoot, only Micheal Valentine Smith. Ya grock?
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Kaendar said:
Well besides some pretty good videos there are audio recordings, tracks, hair and fecal samples. The only reason no serious testing is done on it is because scientist wont touch it with a flagpole in order to preserve their reputation.
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I don't buy it. In the words of a friend "I'm not even renting that one". If actual hair samples existed and clearly demonstrated a previously undocumented instance of north American megafauna (to say nothing of a primate!) that would MAKE any zoologist's career. i could even see a Nobel in it. You seem to be susceptible to the unlogic, the antilogic of conspiracy theory. That's too bad, because millions have discovered it to be the ultimate reason-proof fortress since it comes presupplied with multiply redundant ways to say
"lalalalaaaaLAAAA I can't hear you".
There's a fine line between defending a faith and engaging in outright denial, cartooned in the expression "lalalaLAAA I can't hear you". Imo conspiracy theories are completely and irredeemably in the Denial-worshiper camp. (in some languages, Denial and Satan are congeners.) cn
 
missnu

missnu

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I think people hate on religion because when you are a child you get told that this is the way things are and you believe it because you are a child...but as you get older you start to see the holes in the story, and sometimes when people first fall off the Jesus wagon they are a little upset at having been told untruths for so long...

Same reason the DARE program causes a rise in drug use...
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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On that note ^, same reason teen pregnancy rates are higher in 'abstinence only' states.

Lying to people seems to be a counterproductive way to accomplish a goal... hmm...
 
Doer

Doer

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One really begins to wonder about what a lot of things mean. The War on Drugs. It has to be just some kind of CIA scam that turned into billions of dollars of business on all sides. The flypaper of power.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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And that's a beautiful part of being a skeptical person. It's a lot harder for the power that is to screw you over if you know what to look for.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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mindphuk said:
So you're proposing they followed the migration of humans? How come they do not act like a migratory species or leave any evidence of their existence until quite recently?

Sorry bub, you have been taken in by one of the biggest hoaxes of all time.
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No they didnt follow the migration of humans.. they were probably already here.. native americans and native canadians have stories of sasquatch from very far back. Ancient civilizations all over the world speak of sasquatch.. there arent that many.. one zoologist estimated probably only 2000 in North America.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Kaendar said:
No they didnt follow the migration of humans.. they were probably already here.. native americans and native canadians have stories of sasquatch from very far back. Ancient civilizations all over the world speak of sasquatch.. there arent that many.. one zoologist estimated probably only 2000 in North America.
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How would they have beat humans here? You obviously have no idea how evolution and migration work do you?


BTW, someone that calls himself a 'cryptozoologist' is not necessarily a zoologist.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Kaendar said:
No they didnt follow the migration of humans.. they were probably already here.. native americans and native canadians have stories of sasquatch from very far back. Ancient civilizations all over the world speak of sasquatch.. there arent that many.. one zoologist estimated probably only 2000 in North America.
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You don't understand. They couldn't have just been here in North America already. Having some of their traits already pretty clearly defined, it's obvious if they did actually exist, they would be closely related to humans.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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mindphuk said:
How would they have beat humans here? You obviously have no idea how evolution and migration work do you?


BTW, someone that calls himself a 'cryptozoologist' is not necessarily a zoologist.
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There were animals on this continent for millions of years before humans came. I dont understand your logic.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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mindphuk said:
Other animals are not hominids. Learn something about human evolution and get back to me.
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I dont think that bigfoot are in the line of human evolution. You seem to think that just because they are bipedal. I think they have lived on the world far before humans have.. and they continue to live because of their ability to maintain their population and remain un-detected, for the most part.
 
Heisenberg

Heisenberg

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Kaendar said:
Well besides some pretty good videos there are audio recordings, tracks, hair and fecal samples. The only reason no serious testing is done on it is because scientist wont touch it with a flagpole in order to preserve their reputation.
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Because being the first scientist to confirm Bigfoot would be bad for the reputation? There wouldn't be millions of dollars, fame, awards and prestige? This is only a demonstration of how little you understand the scientific community and the scientific method, and how little you have actually thought about your position.



"Science does not aim at establishing immutable truths and eternal dogmas: Its aim is to approach the truth by successive approximations, without claiming that at any stage final and complete accuracy has been achieved." --Bertrand Russel
 
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