EBgrows420
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Ill have the new G8600 soon ill let you know how it is
When Did Spider Farmer Stop Using Meanwell Drivers?
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Wow, thanks for your feedback. Looks good
concreter68
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Don't get 1 I am coming up to number 3 replacement 1 light stand ,and now coming up to the 2 nd driver replacement ( rohs),if U have a problem,U don't want to deal with there customer service ,
concreter68
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420 Garden
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Thank you for the info. I'm really sorry about your situation. I hope it did not ruin your grow. Anytime a manufacturer makes a large change it make me leery of using that product. I am looking at buying from HLG. I have heard great things about their lights.
Tolerance Break
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HLG or Growers Choice ROI series are top notch
concreter68
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Here is a photo of there new driver.
It's actually stuffed up 3 grows a bit , just bought a migro array 5 X5 U can hang them low with good light penatration,and a good price with over 4500 leds in it ,not the lm301 but the lm281 just twice as many ,have a good day.
I've been growing for a long time started with HPS and ran HID for flower until just this year as I couldn't find anything I could trust in my flower room until I found this:
HLG Scorpion® Diablo X
HLG Scorpion Diablo X is designed for grows with low ceiling heights, vertical racks and grow tents. This is the most efficient full spectrum Horticulture lamp with an efficiency of 3.06 PPF/W and total output of over 2100 PPF
horticulturelightinggroup.com
I also have the HLG 250W Veg Pro over my seeds and will be buying another for my main veg area.
All my plants both seed/veg and flower love that X spectrum. It's the most amazing light I've ever used and over the decades I've used a few. Plus HLG was right there for me when I ordered the wrong dimming mechanism. I'm blaming pot and not the potentiometer type pot.
While it's true almost any light can grow pot to a greater/lesser extent I've been absolutely amazed by the HLG's spectrum, efficiency (heat AND electricity) and spectacular growth. I have a 485 W Hyphotonflux bar light in my veg room and it's hot and not as much growth under it as my MH and under my X or Veg Pro.
I think it's the spectrum. They have that dialed. Now if you're a newbie it doesn't matter get enough watts and get started but if you have your grow relatively tuned you can not find better than HLG.
In an indoor grow your light is the most important part. So spend your biggest chunk of budget on your light. But whatever decision you make just grow.
420 Garden
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Curious2garden thanks I am leaning towards HLG the footprint they show and the fact it is here (USA) made is winning me over.
concreter68
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Another light looked at but bit of over kill for me but the grand master is a beast and rayon (I think that's the brand )
1Zigzagman
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I personally feel that stepping away from meanwell drivers is a huge mistake. I was going to buy the sf4000 2023 model until I noticed you were no longer using meanwell. I bought a used 2022 model instead. You were giving people exactly what they wanted. Quality products and quality diodes. Sosen drivers are OK power drivers but they are not meanwell. Granted that any power supply can fail, but the likelihood of other drivers failing before a meanwell is why we trust meanwell. You are disappointing your fan base. At this point after these boards are done, over and toast I will probably be making the dredded switch of brands yet again. I can't help but feel many others will as well. I am not mad or upset, I just want to be clear that people trusted your lights for years now and this one little switch could very well be the factor that makes someone go to a different brand.The power supply we are using now is also a brand that has focused on the power supply market for many years, and the quality has also been tested and compared by our engineers, so no worry about the quality.
About all your feedback and suggestions, we will feedback to the company
420 Garden
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I totally agree 100 %. I bought the Spider Farmer sf4000 in 2021 and have run very successfully 4 runs. With that said, the light ran very well. Then Spider Farmer puts out a light with this driver change. Tells nothing of the new driver they are changing to. And expects no back lash? I'm sorry but the driver is a fairly important part. It may work out in the long run but I'm afraid they have lost my trust. I am leaning to HLG and use the spider farmer light as a backup if needed. Lights are becoming expensive and growers are researching more and more every day. Why Spider Farmer would not of thought people would not of seen this and act with caution I have no idea.
1Zigzagman
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I personally am going to probably save up and get some fohse a3i aries lights myself. I have a 4x8 tent and with 2 of the 2022 model sf4000s I should have no problem getting up the $$ for those lights. It'll be a few grows before I make the transition but I probably won't need to ever buy anything again until leds hover at the perfect height above the canopy by themselves without a hangar, controll the temperature and humidity of a room without needing to even be plugged in. .. I know that a long ways away... but yeah.. I am done with these brands that get us to trust and then become untrustworthy. Not saying that spiderfarmer is untrustworthy. But it was a very unexpected move to a much less trusted brand.
concreter68
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I was just sent another driver of Spider farmer ( there brand)U can see it is a old 1 fixed up as The power cord is sticking out of driver 1inch as old 1 must of been cut off at driver,I have had nothing but trouble with this light, just bought a migro array 5x5 bar light, very good ppfd chart .
420 Garden
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With the high prices of light's these days, people can't just buy and hope anymore. These are not blurple light's at low costs. I don't know what Spider Farmer is thinking, but I know what I'm thinking. Go with a different brand.
manfredo
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Don't they have a 5 year warranty still??
420 Garden
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Buyer gets 30 days for free. Buyer pays for ALL shipping to and from. (China). After 1 year Buyer pays part of repair and ALL shipping.
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420 Garden
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I don't think after 1 year the light would be worth shipping BOTH ways and the labor. I would say Spider Farmer is counting on the fact its so expensive. Buyer beware.
concreter68
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I have 2 of the se7000 and they are approximately 12 months old ,with the warranty the first time they sent me a new light stand ( the thing holds light rails up and has wiring in it) that didn't work so I had to send light back to them cost me $160 they gave me approx $75 ,it worked for a couple weeks then would heat up and turn of ,then they sent me another driver with a video to watch how to wire the plug ,and this driver is 2nd hand U can see it is not new and the cable that sticks out of driver has been cut as it has approx 1 inch sticking out ,I wanted to return light in the early days they would not do it , customer service was a nightmare,so there 5 year warranty is there way and a big hassle ,this light has been out of order more than worked ,have a good day.