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The real nl#5 was gone years ago , now days most nl you find will never be like how it was in the early 90's
i know a few people locally that had an original NL5 around in the past year or so. who knows if that is still the case though.The real nl#5 was gone years ago , now days most nl you find will never be like how it was in the early 90's
Where did you get your CS NL?I went with Original Northern Lights from Classic Seeds, supposed to be the real thing. Seeds are 45 bucks for 10. I have not grown it yet so can not say on how it is. Classic seeds has a good rep though.
NL #5 was a clone so they've ALL been hybridized
at one point, often with a NL #1 or NL #2.
Some decent options in no particular order are:
Peak Seeds - Used to list the lineage on their website but
no longer do for some reason. Pretty sure it
was listed as NL #5 x NL #2 but I could be wrong.
Dr. Atomic
BC Seed King
Highgrade Seeds
British Columbia Seed Company (BCSC) - Still not sure
if these are the same old genetics they are famous
for. Nobody seems to know if they have the original
parents they used to use or not.
Bodhi - 89 Sensi Noof Cut x BCSC NL #5 - Don't think it will be made again but
I think I read somewhere that Bodhi was going to work on
an IBL Northern Lights.
A while ago I would have said Mr. Nice Ortega (I was planning on
buying two packs) but not anymore. The NL #5 in it is from a new
selection, not the original (I might have still been ok with trying it)
and Shanti refuses to say who the real father of his version of
Ortega is. It's listed as NL #1 but it's looking like its not the case.
Here is the thread for more info (it got locked of course, lol):
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-shantibaba-mrnice/10522-aome-strains-descriptions-need-some-correction-imo.html
Right now I've got two packs of Bodhi 89 Sensi Noof Cut x BCSC NL #5
that I can't wait to try (still several months away from popping them).
treetopmmmp
Thanks!!!!^^ Seed Depot
Looking good!!!! keep us up to date.View attachment 2450204View attachment 2450206Got a 10 pack of Seedsman Seeds Northern Lights regulars and am currently growing. This is what they look like today, 24 days since germination. All 10 are doing well in their hydroponic world.
I actually agree with you. Many accounts call the original Northern lights #5 all indica. I've also grown and smoked this (though years ago), and for any practical purpose (size, growth characteristics, flowering time, high quality) I'd characterize it as an indica too.Sorry, I misread it but still- I don't believe the original had any sativa in it at all. I grew it, and I smoked it for years and it was a great yielding, powerful knock-down indica with not a drop of sativa in it.
I actually agree with you. Many accounts call the original Northern lights #5 all indica. I've also grown and smoked this (though years ago), and for any practical purpose (size, growth characteristics, flowering time, high quality) I'd characterize it as an indica too.
But there are several problems here, not the least of which is that nobody really knows the true lineage of Northern lights, and that there are a lot of different versions out there. The fact that Dr. Atomic is saying that they think this line is 15% sativa (or whatever) doesn't necessarily make them correct. That's just their guess.
Short of some sort of DNA-based analysis, If the line really were 15% sativa for example, I don't know how you could tell that. Which 15%?
As a matter of practice, once you start introducing selection into the equation, percentages of the the original parent genetics go right out the window.
For example, I could start with a pure landrace sativa from Thailand and a pure landrace indica from Pakistan, and even though the F1 would be 50-50 sativa/indica genetics, by the time I reached an F4, I could be back at 99% indica *or* 99% sativa genetics, depending on how I did the selections to get there (am I selecting for indica or sativa traits, etc).
Note that Dr. Atomic is NOT the only one claiming that NL has sativa genetics in there. See here for a pretty comprehensive history. Some think there are some Thai genetics in at least some of the versions:
http://www.seedsman.com/en/origins-of-northern-lights/
To answer the original question, I don't know who has the "best" Northern lights right now. This question comes up from time to time, (you can do a search), and from people who have tried multiple versions, usually Dr. Atomic's version comes up by name as one of the current best.
Its true that Sensi might have the best CLAIM on the original, but I've now heard from more than one source that their current version isn't as good as it used to be.
Also, as a matter of practice, the fact is that probably half of the current "super" strains out there have some degree of NL genetics in there anyway. All the "super hazes" (including Jack Herer, Super Silver Haze, Cindy 99) and their descendants do, and probably so do all of the CA "kushes" to some extent.
The strain itself is so popular and well known that I find it hard to believe that the original genetics have really been "lost". Even if many of the commercial versions are no good or variably authentic, there have to be people with seeds and/or cuttings of the original line still out there.
Ive loved all of the NL hybrids ive tried from nirvana. Chrystal is my fav strain (NL x widow) x NL. the big bud hybrid they used to sell said "Northern lights #5 x Big bud" thats all i know...There is no such thing as NL #5 seeds. It was only available as a clone.
Maravillosa - If you found someone who had a 25 year old NL#5 mother that would be insane! I would imagine cuts of that would be extremely valuable. Anyways, outside of Neville and a few other top breeders I doubt anyone else had cuts.
I have scoured the internet for reviews on NL. Surprisingly, I have read a couple negative reports of Sensi, but no negative reports on Nirvana. Go figure! Does anybody know about the lineage of the Nirvana seeds beyond the ad info?
hey SSHZ, u sure NL #5 is a pure indica... ? ive had so many nl #5's over the years. i have a clone only nl #5 right now. it doesnt look pure indica. ive also grown Chrystal and NL#5 x Big bud from nirvana. If those had a "real" nl #5 then i would have to slightly dissagree that #5 was a pure indica. btw Ortega indica (a VERY indica strain) has NL #1 genes... just sayin not trying to argue with ya or nothing
hahaha, worked on tug's house as a kid. cool dude,always had a beer with me at end of the day....i forgot bout that...ty