Which growing skills and techniques do you find most important when it comes to bud q

Ive never once had a plant where the trichomes didnt turn amber, you have to completely ignore the breeders time and lwt the plant tell you. Ive had a 9 week auto go 17 before it was finished and ended up being some very powerful smoke. Each plant will tell you when it is done. I don't recommend the stopping nutes until you start to see the first amber trichomes, you don't start losing until most have turned and some start to deform or whatever you want to call it. ... And to those saying autos aren't potent. .. Are you smoking crack among with your joints? Potency has absolutely nothing to do with photoperiod or autoflower and everything to do with how the plant is grown and when it is picked. Every commercial auto I've seen came from genetics more than good enough to get anyone stoned
ok wow...lotsa misinfo there...autos have ruderalis genetics in them and rudy's are fiber plants with little to no cannabinoid production used for farming for fiber so the inclusion definitely reduces potency...no way around that.. its genetics

cloudiness is the beginning of degradation of thc into worthless sleepy ass cbn

amber means advanced degradation of thc into cbn and is not desirable unless you want to sleep

Have yet to smoke auto that was even close to photos and all were superbly grown

The environment can only seek to fully exploit the genetics and with autos the genetics are limited by the ruderalis genetic inclusion
 
and op the main thing with growing is to have ALL the controllable factors of the plants environment in sync...thats the secret...it is not one or two things its all of them
 
Kite High, what've you got against DP?
I just grew out there stawberry cough.. 5 year old seed popped with no problems. Very nice high, smooth smoke and a gorgeous looking plant to grow. It definitely doesn't produce a huge amount, average is fair to say but it is not like they don't tell you that.. I have had no issues with them whatsoever so I'm guessing you've had bad luck with them and was curious to know what is it especially as I was planning to grow out their white widow in my next run
 
you wanna grow good ww go to paradise or mr.nice...lotsas herm issues with dp's gear...mekong and blueberry

you do know they acquired their ww from a single 10 pack of greenhouse seeds?
 
> Have yet to smoke auto that was even close to photos and all were superbly grown

I am aware of autos are said to be less potent, I just wanted faster crop so i grew them alongside regulars (which are now going flowering).

and op the main thing with growing is to have ALL the controllable factors of the plants environment in sync...thats the secret...it is not one or two things its all of them

And what are mistakes plant will not forgive in term of potency? I am not asking about obvious ones when plant dies, but about those degrading potency without strong visible symptoms (eg: "plant underfertilized will eventualy finish flowering but potency will be degraded by 80%" OR "lack of magnesium in RO water causes much less trichomes to be produced despite vigorious visual apeal". -!!!!!!!!!i am NOT saying it's this way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These are just example of what i could be asking for!)
 
Grab some kush genetics....Cataract Kush is one that comes to mind that you absolutely can't go wrong with. I've run them is less than optimal conditions, and the product I got out of it still killed most of the herb I see around here. Everybody I hit it with was blown away. If you find a way to grow Cataract Kush that sucks, then I will be impressed.
 
ok wow...lotsa misinfo there...autos have ruderalis genetics in them and rudy's are fiber plants with little to no cannabinoid production used for farming for fiber so the inclusion definitely reduces potency...no way around that.. its genetics cloudiness is the beginning of degradation of thc into worthless sleepy ass cbn amber means advanced degradation of thc into cbn and is not desirable unless you want to sleep Have yet to smoke auto that was even close to photos and all were superbly grown The environment can only seek to fully exploit the genetics and with autos the genetics are limited by the ruderalis genetic inclusion
Probable misinfo there as I have never heard of ruderalis being grown for fiber. Short summers leave just enough time to reproduce and it would be the goal of breeders to separate the auto gene from low potency trait. Unless the DNA has been fully mapped and these two traits are confirmed to be on the same gene (if that is how it works) there's no reason to believe breeders can't get it done if they haven't already.
 
Probable misinfo there as I have never heard of ruderalis being grown for fiber. Short summers leave just enough time to reproduce and it would be the goal of breeders to separate the auto gene from low potency trait. Unless the DNA has been fully mapped and these two traits are confirmed to be on the same gene (if that is how it works) there's no reason to believe breeders can't get it done if they haven't already.
"Cannabis ruderalis has a lower THC content than either C. sativa or C. indica; thus, it has little recreational use."

I was mistaken as it grows wild in the areas where hemp for fiber was grown. They may get it to get you high but I doubt seriously they can get it to the supreme levels and retain age related flowering as well
 
It doesn't have to be about making rudy potent but could be about making something already potent to be automatic. You wouldn't ever have to worry about your timer breaking. :razz:
 
Auto's were ment just to get first crop fast, I am growing regulars along (DP BlueBerry, FemaleSeeds NL and some strain from cannabis seeds giveaway (we have that in our country).

Is a difference in potency that big? I expected them to be at most 2-3x weaker,

Autos are not needed for speed, just grow regular beans 12/12 from seed if you need fast weed.

Dumb question, but you are definitely not getting any light leaks? It will kill potency. Do your plants have much frost?
 
It doesn't have to be about making rudy potent but could be about making something already potent to be automatic. You wouldn't ever have to worry about your timer breaking. :razz:
but the inclusion of the rudy genetics reduces potency...and most likely if you get the potency back up the age induced flowering will be lost
 
Autos are not needed for speed, just grow regular beans 12/12 from seed if you need fast weed.

Dumb question, but you are definitely not getting any light leaks? It will kill potency. Do your plants have much frost?

The only source of light in bedroom is 20W cfl bulb, but i will double-check possible leaks. Thanks!

Could it have any influence on auto's though?
 
Do your plants have much frost? ?

Plants are frosty, no doubt. I also get good amounts of filter bags hash made from trimmings and dried buds. It's just not very potent compared to quality hash I somtimes get (like 1.5g hash joint gives me 15-30 minutes of buzz). I wasn not able to ge full-melt, and the tase is jus not" dank" and "thick". I guest it's loack of my experience. I dont think the problem is amount of trichomes, maybe more about cannabinoid content in them?
 
but the inclusion of the rudy genetics reduces potency...and most likely if you get the potency back up the age induced flowering will be lost
Even if reduced-potency ruderalis type traits are dominant in a hemp x dank hybrid there will be recessive genes that could be isolated and bred for in an IBL. That's assuming someone can't find a breeding pair where the low potency is recessive and automatic trait is dominant in the offspring. To deny these possibilities in the absence of scientific proof would be ridiculous. Do you have proof or have you grown every automatic cannabis plant in existence?
 
The only source of light in bedroom is 20W cfl bulb, but i will double-check possible leaks. Thanks!

Could it have any influence on auto's though?

Oh yea... probably not. Sounds like you are doing everything right, which just leaves genetics to blame.
 
have you tried a grow without the uvb's? A comparison? how about drying/curing...is this done in darkness?... It is said that potency increases with proper curing...
 
Every time only half are exposed and every time I prefer the UVB irradiated product

and the test reports from the labs correspond as well
 
Even if reduced-potency ruderalis type traits are dominant in a hemp x dank hybrid there will be recessive genes that could be isolated and bred for in an IBL. That's assuming someone can't find a breeding pair where the low potency is recessive and automatic trait is dominant in the offspring. To deny these possibilities in the absence of scientific proof would be ridiculous. Do you have proof or have you grown every automatic cannabis plant in existence?
When if ever I smoke some auto that is excellent I will alter my views. But by all means if you like them go for it. I do not know what you like. A lot of people do not like to be high but rather stoned. I like being high and no autos I have smoked did it for me. Plus in my arrangement I have no need for any of the supposed benefits they are said to offer.
 
I enjoy cannabis since teenage (I'm 30), traveled to smoker's destinations across Europe, bought hash in Maroc, read tons of books about cannabis and cannabis cultivation, constantly looking for opportunities to improve knowledge about the plant. And I love to get stoned.

About half year ago I started indoor cultivation, now I'm during second harvest (DutchPassion Automazar and Think Different).

Potency is disappointing, but I found great joy in cultivation itself. I realized that THC content is not that important when you have own dope. While growing I train soft skills (patience ;), relax working in garden etc. Savings are also great.

I decided to stick with cultivation and looking for ways to improve gardening skills (and zen of growing;).

My plants are mostly healthy, vigorous, yield a lot, but potency and smell is an issue. It's just not dank comparing to high quality street weed, and not even in pair with stuff I got in Amsterdam or Prague. They are a lot weaker than shit-quality buds bought here (they taste much better though).

Grow room: 60x100cm (2x3 feet)
Lights: 600W HPS (Lumatek digital dimmable) and 400W MH (GIB) in Sputnik air-cooled reflectors (separate from main vent). 4 additional UVB Repti lights (4 different brands)
Vent: Separate 800m3 vent with carbon filter. There are 3 additional ventilators and 4 repti-glo uvb lights. i
Medium: BioBizz/Canna soil, Canna COCO, Local mixes.
Fertilizers: Canna fertilizers, Rhizotonic, PK13/14, Booster
Additional: RO water, EC and PH-meter. advanced weather station

Grow temperatures are 23-26C (70-80F), humiditiy around 50-60% during veg, lower during flowering.

As you see - more-than-enough of light, great ventilation, good nutrients. No mold or pests problem.

Plants are 16 weeks old (dutch passion says they should be ready by 10-12 week).
I was running 24/0 18/6 and last mont 12/12. Trichomes are milky, 5% are amber since 4 weeks ant not changing colour anymore).

I got 8 plants, so I harvest them from 9th week periodically and partially checking potency (no quick-drying). Weed tastes nice, but not really skunky, and I have to smoke 3-5 joints by myself to get high. Friends with lower tolerance are stoned with 1 joint, but sharing a joint give a little effect. Effect (even water bag hash ) are rather subtle (no big "hit" and "stoned" feeling, more like mild disorientation).

Same with 1'st crop, seeds where from some femaleseeds.nl autos.

A friend of mine is growing other straing with a lot worse equipment, but similar results (not potent weed). I though that's beacuse of his lack of intense lighting are ventilation, but results are really similar.

I assume lack of potency is caused by them being autos, little hermie (like 30 seed total), earlier lack of potency i- not enough light (400W HPS for same area) so now I am going 12/12 with 3 moths old DP Blueberry photosensitiv in hope of getting something really strong.

What skills should I improve to get better results in term of potency and quality? Is it in proper-nutrients? Or should I take more care about pruning? Or I just need to grow many plants and take clones of best, as it's very rare to get killer weed from commercially available seeds? Or I am out of luck with genetics? OR should I try to understand the plant and the results will come (which I am doing)?

Dont get me wrong, I enjoy my crop, I just dont know how come even cheap street stuff is more potent than my well-cared and cured weed?

So you basically want better taste, smell and high from your plants. I have the exact opposite problem my plants smell great, taste great and have a good high to them but the yield was low first grow. Are your use molasses and/or sweets?? I run sweets from the beginning of the grow and molasses I am just trying out and running during flower. I have a few friends that grow and one of them is really good at it and I and learning from him but taking my own approach, so I have seen many a grows ending results and I can tell you that buds without sweets used are not a smelly or as tasty as buds with sweets.
 
Filut I had the same prob my first couple of grows (V.Kush , Gdp , Big Bud , Trainwreck , H.Gold etc) a good yield and regular bud.. I thought it was everything from my nutes( brand , or too much/less) to my bulb being shit. So i went out & bought a 8ffy of some sour , and to my luck it had a seed in it.

Long story short i grew her out with little to no love( feed 2x , cfl lighting , etc) and she was the BEST BUD I EVER had , my freinds stiil talk bout her and hope shes coming back..

The moral of the story is I feel its all about GENETICS.. Good Luck!
 
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