Which of these strains should I grow?

m420p

Well-Known Member
Well, I've been doing some research and checking out seedbanks and breeders to choose some strains for my next cycle. I'm sick of worrying about mites:finger: on clones. I have a list but I need to narrow it down, would like to get opinions on these strains and maybe which you would choose if you were in my shoes.

First off, I'll tell you my set-up and what I am looking for in a strain.
I'm using a 400 MH for Veg & 1000 watt air-cooled(inline fans) HPS for Bloom.
Recirculating Deep Water Culture Hydro
Distilled water w/ Cal/Mag
DynaGro Nutes w/ DG & AN additives
4' light track for 1000 watt HPS

Tend to grow bigger plants(veg for 4+ weeks)
Would prefer quality over yield but it is a factor


Here's the list:
Mr. Nice Super Silver Haze
Green House Super Lemon Haze
Barneys G-13 Haze
Barneys LSD
Serious AK -47
Dutch Passion Mazar
Big Buddha Original Cheese
Soma NYC Diesel
Mr. Nice Black Widow(the real white widow)
Bomb THC Bomb
Cali Conn. Tahoe OG Kush
Reserva Privada Purple Wreck
edit: Rare Darkness OG Ghost Train Haze #1

Sensi Jack Herer should be on here but there is no way I am paying 22 dollars a seed not feminized.

Which brings me to my next question, what are your thoughts on Feminized seeds? Any problems with these?

Thanks.
 

hazey grapes

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you don't have to pay $225 for a decent jack herer. sannie's jack f7 is only $50 and called "legit" as in close to the original and not watered down. it's at the top of my shopping list, but TGA subcool's jack's cleaner 2 kicks so much ass it's not even funny. it's a little stonier than i prefer, but does real visuals with a nice happy warm and fuzzy touchy feely buzz that pushes my only like getting high pot snob buttons big time. jack the ripper is probably trippier and racier, but i have issues with it's name along with equally regarded sannie's killing fields.

i don't like LSD. it's compact and sexy, but just has a generic haze high that's not trippy as described with an annoying creeper stone i didn't like at all. i like john sinclair's sativa trans-love better as it starts out with a similar generic haze high, but doesn't turn stony, and buds really fast compared to other strains that get you high.

i like CH9's jack better than LSD too. it's not as trippy as JC2, but is nice and potent and euphoric in a compact indica looking strain that isn't skunky and whose stone is very mild. i didn't study it well enough as i was liking JC2 better for it's visuals and stretchy, but super fruity and sticky DNA sweet haze too as it has some psychoactivity as well.

dutch passion and greenhouse should be off your list. they aren't too well respected. i tried greenhouse super lemon haze as a freebie just to take a look myself as there's so much hermie hate for their gear and didn't get that, but it did take almost a month and 3-4 nodes to stop mutating and settle where other strains, even pure sativa malawi gold were already budding.

serious AK-47 should be great if you're after that kind of buzz. mr nice is highly respected too as is reserva privada/DNA. i've liked all 3 DNA strains i've tried, especially sweet haze, but their lemon skunk freebie had top to bottom quality and spanks the crap out of stony skunk #1 and even has a golden glow that matches the lemony flavor and their sour cream is as stony as skunk #1 and blueberry, but extra delicious. it's my favorite stoner bud for the flavor. i gave my LaCon freebies away because that strain can get stinky, but it too is top quality based on the reports from those who grew it that tried to talk me into keeping it. the reserva privada line leans more towards indicas.

feminized seeds are generally considered a shortcut. they are much more likely to hermie as they're bred from a forced hermie female, and they lack the vigor of a proper cross or the hybrid vigor you get from crossing two different strains like TGA subcool does. there's two schools of thought there though, some are obsessed with how stabilized and predictable a strain is, and then others like me don't mind pheno variation as it gives you more variety to pick and chose from along with the hybrid vigor that's like a free potency boost. you have to pick your own priorities there. DON'T get nirvana fems though... notoriously bad, but i've tried a bunch of fems, many freebies, and so far only had problems with that mutating greenhouse SLH freebie. DNA sweet haze is my 2nd favorite strain, and it was a fem as were the lemon skunk and sour cream. it's a really cheap way to sample a strain and a given breeder's chops, but if you want to get serious about quality, regs are better, especially for breeding. nature knows WTF it's doing.

jack herer and super silver haze are actually bred from the exact same parents, just in different breeding orders. SSH is more indica dominant and herer is hazier. i like sativas best, so i'm totally a jack herer fan now that i've sampled a few hybrids. i'm going to test critical jack and jack 33 this winter, and want to try "the real deal" jack f7 too along with TGA subcool's third dimension. super silver haze shouldn't be shabby either though. just a little stonier. it's won more cannabis cups than any other strain if memory serves me right. getting it AND jack herer would be a little redundant. if you want variety, get jack and something stony like AK-47 or a kush.

sannies has SSH crosses too. many love herer though. it was given the honorary title of "holy grail" strain for making something that gets you high that's doable indoors with decent yields. i tell you though, i laughed my ass off when JC2 made me get into massaging my chest and arms and i noticed i was imagining invisible ripples of tie color where i touched. i hadn't experienced ANYTHING that visual after real columbian gold vanished in the 80s. as sannie's jack f7 takes a couple weeks longer to finish, it might be even tripper and more energetic. jack herer's the next best thing to a fussy 15 week plus pure sativa. i want to try a bunch of hybrids of that. were it not for the evil name, i wouldn't hesitate to get jack the ripper as that's a nice "9 week haze" that people say is extra trippy.

Buddha Purple Kush imo.
i see their name pop up all the time in recommended breeder's threads, though they aren't the most popular breeder, but many great breeders have smaller markets. my 3rd favorite strain is high quality seeds' stretchy 12 week haze x skunk. man that shit is POTENT! i call it an AK-47 for getting high. it doesn't turn stony even after a month either and has at least a little bit of psychoactivity for it's modest $28 price. i haven't seen too many people growing their gear at all, but that's my 3rd favorite strain. big buddha has more fans, so if you want a purple strain and P kush is recommended, go for it. that would totally contrast the motivational & trippy stuff i like. big buddha cheese and other breeder's versions have a lot of fans too.
 

m420p

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Thanks for your opinions. Since yesterday I did read some bad stuff about Greenhouse so they are definitely off my list of breeders as well as Dutch Passion. I'm definitely not going with feminized seeds now, I just can't chance getting a herm. I was going to because I have hydro and it would be a waste of nutes and bought distilled water to grow a male until it was sexed. But getting a herm isn't worth that to me so once I do get a nice looking female, I'll clone off of it and make it a mother in soil.

" i like sativas best, so i'm totally a jack herer fan now that i've sampled a few hybrids."
I'm more of a sativa guy as well, and would like to stick with original breeders and strains since this is the first time I'm growing from bought seeds. I probably won't go with Jack this cycle because I can't spend THAT much on seeds at the moment considering I am getting one or two other strains but it is definitely top on my list for next cycle.

One strain have always wanted to try is "white widow." Now that I've been doing some research I see threads and post about how "white widow is one of the most overrated strains." Now if they are talking about all the white widow hybrids i could see where they are coming from but they are talking about the original strain it's hard to take that statement seriously considering they don't even use it's real name. I would really like to get a opinion from someone who has actually grown Mr. Nice's Black Widow.

As for Ak-47, I have seen plenty and smoked plenty of it, but honestly it's been a while and don't remember the kind of buzz or taste. I remember its looks, lots of orange hairs and appealing to the eyes but that doesn't mean much. I will probably eventually get some seeds for AK-47 because of its rep. but I think I'm going to wait on this one as well.

Two strains that I would really like to get opinions on from anyone are Barney's G-13 Haze and Rare Darkness OG Ghost Train Haze #1.
Barney's G-13 Haze won a cannabis 3 years in a row from 97-99 so I am highly considering it this cycle. Just can't find any regular seeds for it...
Rare Darkness's Ghost Train Haze # 1 I have heard is one of the most potent strains available if grown in optimal conditions. Is this the OG Ghost Train Haze that was tested with a 25+% THC content?

So basically I now narrowed it down to these strains. Any opinions on any of these strains are welcome.

Mr. Nice Super Silver Haze
Barneys G-13 Haze(if I can find seeds)
Big Buddha Original Cheese
Mr. Nice Black Widow
Cali Conn. Tahoe OG Kush
Reserva Privada Purple Wreck
Rare Darkness OG Ghost Train Haze #1

 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Thanks for your opinions. Since yesterday I did read some bad stuff about Greenhouse so they are definitely off my list of breeders as well as Dutch Passion. I'm definitely not going with feminized seeds now, I just can't chance getting a herm. I was going to because I have hydro and it would be a waste of nutes and bought distilled water to grow a male until it was sexed. But getting a herm isn't worth that to me so once I do get a nice looking female, I'll clone off of it and make it a mother in soil.

" i like sativas best, so i'm totally a jack herer fan now that i've sampled a few hybrids."
I'm more of a sativa guy as well, and would like to stick with original breeders and strains since this is the first time I'm growing from bought seeds. I probably won't go with Jack this cycle because I can't spend THAT much on seeds at the moment considering I am getting one or two other strains but it is definitely top on my list for next cycle.

One strain have always wanted to try is "white widow." Now that I've been doing some research I see threads and post about how "white widow is one of the most overrated strains." Now if they are talking about all the white widow hybrids i could see where they are coming from but they are talking about the original strain it's hard to take that statement seriously considering they don't even use it's real name. I would really like to get a opinion from someone who has actually grown Mr. Nice's Black Widow.

As for Ak-47, I have seen plenty and smoked plenty of it, but honestly it's been a while and don't remember the kind of buzz or taste. I remember its looks, lots of orange hairs and appealing to the eyes but that doesn't mean much. I will probably eventually get some seeds for AK-47 because of its rep. but I think I'm going to wait on this one as well.

Two strains that I would really like to get opinions on from anyone are Barney's G-13 Haze and Rare Darkness OG Ghost Train Haze #1.
Barney's G-13 Haze won a cannabis 3 years in a row from 97-99 so I am highly considering it this cycle. Just can't find any regular seeds for it...
Rare Darkness's Ghost Train Haze # 1 I have heard is one of the most potent strains available if grown in optimal conditions. Is this the OG Ghost Train Haze that was tested with a 25+% THC content?

So basically I now narrowed it down to these strains. Any opinions on any of these strains are welcome.

Mr. Nice Super Silver Haze
Barneys G-13 Haze(if I can find seeds)
Big Buddha Original Cheese
Mr. Nice Black Widow
Cali Conn. Tahoe OG Kush
Reserva Privada Purple Wreck
Rare Darkness OG Ghost Train Haze #1

i'd probably run in this order.. super silver haze
black widow
tahoe og from cali con.. :D
 

calicat

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Barney's no longer produces regular seeds. Never grew their g-13 haze but will be finishing their liberty haze that has their g-13 haze mixed with chem dog '91 which I am very pleased without any hiccups. Og Ghost train haze is on my list to grow in future. Haven't heard anything bad about that company. Best of luck with your choice. Btw don't completely disregard feminized seeds they do not always hermie sometimes its due to the stress growers apply to their plants. It is true though they have a predisposition of hermaphroditism. Just try it out for yourself if you order seeds from a seedbank that gives out freebies.
 

m420p

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Some might not agree but anyone ive shared my clone with will agree.

Barnies farm Blue Cheese is 10x better than BB cheese.
I kept BB Cheese up there because I've heard of how big their buds get and I already can grow some pretty big buds as it is so I wanted a opinion on it which you gave so thanks. I'd like to try some kind of cheese, so I'll look in to the blue cheese.
 

m420p

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"Barney's G-13 Haze won a cannabis 3 years in a row from 97-99"
Sorry, got my strains mixed up, was SSH that won three years in a row. G-13 Haze was a 2006 and 2007 winner.
 

m420p

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Barney's no longer produces regular seeds. Never grew their g-13 haze but will be finishing their liberty haze that has their g-13 haze mixed with chem dog '91 which I am very pleased without any hiccups. Og Ghost train haze is on my list to grow in future. Haven't heard anything bad about that company. Best of luck with your choice. Btw don't completely disregard feminized seeds they do not always hermie sometimes its due to the stress growers apply to their plants. It is true though they have a predisposition of hermaphroditism. Just try it out for yourself if you order seeds from a seedbank that gives out freebies.
So your saying they only produce feminized seeds these days and the only way I could grow G-13 Haze is to get feminized seeds? I've never found a seed in weed I have grown indoors, it would be a shame to get a herm and find seeds. Can you just cut off the male parts of herm if you watch your plants closely? I do have nute spikes in bloom right before I refill my res. on occasion so that worries me it might herm a plant from a feminized seed.

I did see that Liberty Haze was pretty popular at the moment, might have to put that on the list for future grows. Thanks for the luck.
edit: After checking it out it's hard not to like Barney's description:

Cannabis Cup Winner 2011!!!




Liberty haze is a cross of G13 male with a fast flowering Chem Dawg 91. Liberty Haze has both Indica and sativa characteristics with one perfect talent.- a fast flowering time. (8 to 9 weeks). A medium tall plant with substantial girth and big fat calyxes, she performs excellently in both indoor and outdoor environments. Long dense cola’s start to really fatten up in the last three weeks with dense trichome production with beautiful contrasting red and purple hairs. The Liberty Haze buzz is immediate and long lasting with an alert and euphoric cerebral effect.
Has a distinct and refreshing lime taste and fragrance.
Lab tests have rated the THC content at up to 25 percent
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
So your saying they only produce feminized seeds these days and the only way I could grow G-13 Haze is to get feminized seeds? I've never found a seed in weed I have grown indoors, it would be a shame to get a herm and find seeds. Can you just cut off the male parts of herm if you watch your plants closely? I do have nute spikes in bloom right before I refill my res. on occasion so that worries me it might herm a plant from a feminized seed.

I did see that Liberty Haze was pretty popular at the moment, might have to put that on the list for future grows. Thanks for the luck.
edit: After checking it out it's hard not to like Barney's description:


Cannabis Cup Winner 2011!!!




Liberty haze is a cross of G13 male with a fast flowering Chem Dawg 91. Liberty Haze has both Indica and sativa characteristics with one perfect talent.- a fast flowering time. (8 to 9 weeks). A medium tall plant with substantial girth and big fat calyxes, she performs excellently in both indoor and outdoor environments. Long dense cola’s start to really fatten up in the last three weeks with dense trichome production with beautiful contrasting red and purple hairs. The Liberty Haze buzz is immediate and long lasting with an alert and euphoric cerebral effect.
Has a distinct and refreshing lime taste and fragrance.
Lab tests have rated the THC content at up to 25 percent
there are a lot of crosses that use that same g13 haze m8.. soma has tons of gear using that as parent stock and dna's sour cream is that g13 haze x i want to say sour d of some sort..

fem's are good, forgot to mention this earlier, so long as you stick with a few proven co's imo.. barney's farm and greenhouse have both been known to have problems with their fem gear.. they've also been known to have issues with their non-fem gear, which is why i stay away, not because of it being fems..
 

DSB65

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Id say get some mr nice g13 times black widow....clones easy and it kicks ass......thanks racer.....you the man.....lol
 

m420p

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there are a lot of crosses that use that same g13 haze m8.. soma has tons of gear using that as parent stock and dna's sour cream is that g13 haze x i want to say sour d of some sort..

fem's are good, forgot to mention this earlier, so long as you stick with a few proven co's imo.. barney's farm and greenhouse have both been known to have problems with their fem gear.. they've also been known to have issues with their non-fem gear, which is why i stay away, not because of it being fems..
Well that's good to know, didn't know Barneys had a bad rep.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
Well that's good to know, didn't know Barneys had a bad rep.
i'd say that barney's are a bit better company than greenhouse, but that would be pretty much the same as my saying that i think that target is a better company than walmart if you know what i mean..
 

m420p

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i'd say that barney's are a bit better company than greenhouse, but that would be pretty much the same as my saying that i think that target is a better company than walmart if you know what i mean..
Ya, I might eventually want to grow Barney's Liberty Haze but I think I'm going to stick to Mr. Nice and others with good reps for now.
 

m420p

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What seedbanks would you guys suggest that have most known good breeders and a good selection of single seeds? Herbies looks and sounds like the best as far as rep and selling single seeds. From what I see Attitude doesn't sell all strains as single seeds.
 

polyarcturus

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all of you wrong whatever your saying your wrong. too many damn words that mean nothing in here.


@ the op, you know what you should grow? you should grow em' all! if you can aford it. if not make a "top ten" list, and start at the top.
 

m420p

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all of you wrong whatever your saying your wrong. too many damn words that mean nothing in here.


@ the op, you know what you should grow? you should grow em' all! if you can aford it. if not make a "top ten" list, and start at the top.
You do realize i was asking for opinions, I don't believe anyone in here stated what they said as fact. Obviously you have different opinions on strains and breeders?
 
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