white/clear blob invading my bubble cloner.

This bubble cloner is a rubbermaid tub that i've had running for 30+ days with NO roots from any healthy clones. I just recently light-proofed it, so that might have been a problem.

I intermittently add a dose or two of 3% h2o2.
base of cuttings are 1-2cm above water level.
water temps are at 71*F (i know thats too low... so i slid a heating mat partially underneath that slug-box).

Considering all these things, why have I managed to grow white-clearish blob-looking substances all over my 4' air-hose and airstone? i dont have any pics because i just wanted to wash it off, but if it grows back i'll snap some shots with the digi.

Really, it's gross. Kinda like a mix of cornstarch and uncooked egg white or something similar. It developed all along the bottom of the reservoir, and along the entire lengths of the 4' air-diffuser hose and the 10" airstone.

that cant be algae.
any info on this?
i'm stumped...

and i want some clones to root!

=]ty.
dj bath

...bump.

it grows on some of the plants too.
it just hangs from the bottom of the stem where the roots should be growing.

is this a sign of rot?

alright i have a heating pad partially under my bubble cloner...
temps are in the upper 70's, making sure they dont pop over 80 or anything ridiculous.

good thing my clones in those compost pellets are doing well. *sigh*

damn....sorry noone will tackle this easy one with you. i like to refer to it as horse semen......35% h202 at 1.7ml per liter will keep it away. the 3% just wont work without enormous amounts. if its bad then you might have to re-set.

bugsrnme said:

damn....sorry noone will tackle this easy one with you. i like to refer to it as horse semen......35% h202 at 1.7ml per liter will keep it away. the 3% just wont work without enormous amounts. if its bad then you might have to re-set.

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bugs is right.

bearsnotbombs said:

alright i have a heating pad partially under my bubble cloner...
temps are in the upper 70's, making sure they dont pop over 80 or anything ridiculous.

good thing my clones in those compost pellets are doing well. *sigh*

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The high temp causes this stuff to grow. I think the spores are in the water. The H2O2 is good advice. I tried this UV water clarifyer and that seems to do the trick too. I actually use both H2O2 and the UV sterilizer and the water can be used for several batched of clones. I keep my water temp at 84F.

hey does your uv have the water run through it via an impeller ???i want one soooooo bad but i wanna get the good one first.

curious.george said:

bugs is right.


The high temp causes this stuff to grow. I think the spores are in the water. The H2O2 is good advice. I tried this UV water clarifyer and that seems to do the trick too. I actually use both H2O2 and the UV sterilizer and the water can be used for several batched of clones. I keep my water temp at 84F.

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I just checked my water temp, and it stays around 72-74.

I believe at one point I had the bubble-cloner directly on top of my heating pad, and then later check the temps at 82, which I thought was too warm so the heating pad is now only partially under the bubble-cloner. It actually has to share the heating pad with a propagation dome, which is now not as warm due to the 'split' duty.

bugsrnme said:

damn....sorry noone will tackle this easy one with you. i like to refer to it as horse semen......35% h202 at 1.7ml per liter will keep it away. the 3% just wont work without enormous amounts. if its bad then you might have to re-set.

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1.7ml per liter of 35%.

I'd basically have to use a dozen times that dose with my 3%. That'd be around 20ml per liter of 3% H2O2 -- good thing I just went out and bought a liter bottle of it. However, I'm using around 10 liters in my res right now, so that would end up at 200ml to cure up my bubbler.

Wow.
I need to get some better H2O2, pronto.

and just like that.....a star is born. good info kicks ass. you got it

bearsnotbombs said:

1.7ml per liter of 35%.

I'd basically have to use a dozen times that dose with my 3%. That'd be around 20ml per liter of 3% H2O2 -- good thing I just went out and bought a liter bottle of it. However, I'm using around 10 liters in my res right now, so that would end up at 200ml to cure up my bubbler.

Wow.
I need to get some better H2O2, pronto.

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Skip the H2O2 and buy some HygroZyme, it'll solve the problem.

Squarepusher45 said:

Skip the H2O2 and buy some HygroZyme, it'll solve the problem.

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If you do keep us posted. If there is something more expensive than H2O2 that works just as well. That would be good to know.

bugsrnme said:

hey does your uv have the water run through it via an impeller ???i want one soooooo bad but i wanna get the good one first.

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Yes, Actually I have 2 of them. The sunleaves one uses a external air pump to move water through it slowly. I am using this one in my big 40gal res. I also have a JBL Submariner 5w, it does have a built in impeller. It is way smaller than the sunleaves one. I am using it in my bubble cloner. I just bought a 2nd JBL one for a 2nd hydro system I set up, I decided to go for the JBL one because I did not also need to purchase an air pump and it is better for the 20gal res. The both seem to keep the water clean if it starts out that way.

bearsnotbombs said:

I just checked my water temp, and it stays around 72-74.

I believe at one point I had the bubble-cloner directly on top of my heating pad, and then later check the temps at 82, which I thought was too warm so the heating pad is now only partially under the bubble-cloner. It actually has to share the heating pad with a propagation dome, which is now not as warm due to the 'split' duty.

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When I had that stuff it did not totally go away easily once I had corrected the conditions until I started over with clean water and non slimy clones.

why do people say yo can do it with plain water, I used RO plus SuperThrive only @ 5 ppm, an oxystone with an overkill air pump and temps stayed around 72-76°F. There's Horse Cum everywhere, I've tried to root 5 times by now and just can't get it fuc*** right!!

masp84 said:

why do people say yo can do it with plain water, I used RO plus SuperThrive only @ 5 ppm, an oxystone with an overkill air pump and temps stayed around 72-76°F. There's Horse Cum everywhere, I've tried to root 5 times by now and just can't get it fuc*** right!!

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Because we can? I use straight tap water with a shot of Genisis microbial and I have run the same batch of water never changing it for 3 cycles of clones (Yes I am lazy) with no semen to be found. My water runs 68 to 70 degrees.

sparkafire said:

Because we can? I use straight tap water with a shot of Genisis microbial and I have run the same batch of water never changing it for 3 cycles of clones (Yes I am lazy) with no semen to be found. My water runs 68 to 70 degrees.

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Teach me sensei

masp84 said:

Teach me sensei

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WHat do you want to know?

The clear goo in the rez is a mass of pythium, usually. 35% H2O2 @ 1.7ml/l is the cure. Dump & clean the rez- wipe down water contact surfaces with full strength H2O2 on a damp sponge- make up new soln, add H2O2 every 3-4 days. You'll never see the goo again if you're diligent.

I'm not a Hygrozyme (or any other enzymatic cleaner) fan. Enzymes are proteins, which is organic matter- H2O2 treats the stuff like pathogens and breaks it down on contact. Enzymatic agents are not as quick a solution to the problem and don't have the benefit of oxygenating the roots, deep within the media. I do know some pl who have used enzymatic agents with some success solving root problems, but everyone who uses H2O2 has success.

Ok I oredered 4 liters of H2O2 for my 6th try (3rd with bubbler) Mothers will be: AK x WW, LSD, Blueberry Gum and 2 x SLH). I'm gonna make the cuts 3 nodes down the growing tip, then peal off the leaves by hand of the last node. Further, I'll dip the stem just a little bit above the node in rootech cloning gel and put the clone straight into my bubbler that'd be filled with 5.8 PH'd water diluted in clonex solution... I ordered superthrive and Hygryzome to see if they can helpt. I really need to get this right, I'll keep trying until I do. Thanks for the advices, pretty helpful!!