Who has the dankest of the dank?

It's not that high. I think it's more like 20% profit. The seed banks make a TON of cash on some packs. I think they make the most on Cali Connection, they make about $32 a pack. Cali Connection packs sell for $112.63 US Dollars on The Attitude. Average locally, they sell for $70-$80 a pack. TGA Vortex 5 seed packs sell for $45 locally. The Attitude sells them for $56.31. Rare Dankness that I bought at the cup $60 a pack. The Attitude sells them for $86.88. OGRaskal beans sell for $100- $120 a pack locally. The Attitude sells them for $128.72.. It varies by breeder like you said.

Nightmarecreature said:

It's not that high. I think it's more like 20% profit. The seed banks make a TON of cash on some packs. I think they make the most on Cali Connection, they make about $32 a pack. Cali Connection packs sell for $112.63 US Dollars on The Attitude. Average locally, they sell for $70-$80 a pack. TGA Vortex 5 seed packs sell for $45 locally. The Attitude sells them for $56.31. Rare Dankness that I bought at the cup $60 a pack. The Attitude sells them for $86.88. OGRaskal beans sell for $100- $120 a pack locally. The Attitude sells them for $128.72.. It varies by breeder like you said.

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trust me, i know exactly how much these seed banks are making.. i'm not pulling these numbers out of me ass, i know for a fact how these things work.. would rather not get into how i know this, but let's just say, i know this..

Top dawg should be up on that list! i voted raskal cus he wasnt there

racerboy71 said:

trust me, i know exactly how much these seed banks are making.. i'm not pulling these numbers out of me ass, i know for a fact how these things work.. would rather not get into how i know this, but let's just say, i know this..

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You know exactly how much they pay?

Nightmarecreature said:

You know exactly how much they pay?

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ok, since you asked, yes.. i have a friend from this site even.. he started breeding his own seeds.. he contacted a few seedbanks and asked about them vending his gear.. one was hemp depot, and one other spot i'd rather not say..
anyhoo's, both of them told him the same deal.. 50% for the seed bank, and 50% for the breeder.. he went with the second place, and is selling his beans for a hair over $60 for a ten pack .. he get's a hair over $30 per pack and the sb gets the other 30..
he said he also talked to a few other places like tsd and they all have the same setup..

OMG thats bullshit! You know how much work the breeders put into their seeds. All the time lights, nutes, electricity and problems that hit everyone. I'm telling you right now, the first seedbank to start up in the USA, wont be making a 50% profit. That's not till it's legal everywhere but still.

Why breed, when you can sell the buds and make so much more? Vending in Cali is a huge business, with a 50% loss there's no reason to make seeds. My brother is starting a seed business but seeds will be local. No way will he sell those for $30 a pack, that's gay!

Because even at 50% off the top, se'eds are worth more weight for weight. If you have a momma and a daddy dialed in ... soul train! cn

cannabineer said:

Because even at 50% off the top, se'eds are worth more weight for weight. If you have a momma and a daddy dialed in ... soul train! cn

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i agree it's bs, but without seed banks like for instance the attitude, do you know how many less seeds a breeder would be able to get out to the public?? yah, a lot of them have their own sites to sell gear, but they surely don't get the kind of traffic that a big seed bank like the tude gets.. they make up for the 50% loss in profits by shear volume of sales.. think of it like a walmart.. the people who vend to walmart make dog shit per piece, but they make up for it in the hundreds of thousands of pieces walmart will order from them...

and like cannabineer said.. i good yielding mom plant can give a breeder thousands of seeds per plant.. mind you, not all plants will give big numbers like these, but a lot of them will.. the real money in cannabis is in seeds.. say $100/ 10 beans, even if that breeder is only getting $50 for ten, that's $5 per x's the thousands of seeds one a single plant..
of course you have overhead like lights, nutes, etc, etc, but if you really want to make money in the canna world, forget about selling bud, sell beans my friend..

i love racer seeds...fast delivery...and cheap....lol

DSB65 said:

i love racer seeds...fast delivery...and cheap....lol

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nah, it wasn't me dsb, it was my buddy dizzle frost, aka, the frost bro's. . check out his gear if you want a nice c99 or c99 cross.. or chocolate chunky monkey looks delish..

i want some more mr nice.....g13 widow...its bad ass

One of the nicest things about growing your own is being able to pick the kind of high that you would like to have; upbeat, couch lock, psychadellic and all that. I love TGA, Barney's Farm, Bomb Seeds almost all of em are great. Just gotta make sure you pick whats going to work best for you. Indica, Sativa or a mix, how much space you have and light. Spacebomb is my favorite right now. Just put Querkle down and Jilly Bean is about 6 weeks out for me.

Well, maybe I can talk my brother into getting his beans next year to the Attitude. I'm testing out 20 crosses right now and it's too much work but I'm sticking with it. Testing the male is what is taking so long and he's been working on it since last year, it's going faster now that I'm helping. He has a bunch of stuff that other breeders don't, including a strain called Cap'n Crunch, that smells and tastes just like Cap'n Crunch cereal. Thanks for the headsup Racer, now we know what to expect to keep costs down.

All breeders make less than y'all think they do. There's middle men in the business too. I'd say on average breeders make 25-40% of what the seed bank price is. If its a solo operation I can see the 50/50 thing being true.

Marketing is huge overhead! Breeders entering Cups, paying for booths, giving out a gang of buds to the judges. I almost feel bad for them but I know it makes up for it by getting their name out.

a lot of breeders give out tons of gear in test beans as well.. i can't even imagine the price tag for all the free gear some breeders give out for testers..
then imagine if they all test out to be shit, then the breeder scraps the whole project getting nothing back in the way of money from that entire test group..
i think they more then make up for it when they finally hit on one strain that is great though.. can you imagine how many beans of say idk, tahoe og the cali con has sold at $150 or so a 10 pack??

It's nice for me because of where I live I can run so many different clone only strains, I really don't need to buy beans at all. I only run beans now when something catches my eye. The majority of my clone only's, destroy my seed plants. The only thing my seed plants do is out veg some of my clones. I picked up 60 different clone only strains this year. It's going to take me the better part of this year to grow them all out. I have been disappointed in a lot of clones but I have been more disappointed with the seeds I have purchased. I'm too picky. I'm really shocked, with all the genetics out there, that there is a huge gap in the amount of breeding stock available. What I mean by this, is that there is a shit load of sick SICK genetics and breeders are not using them. I hope I can help fill in that gap.

Collecting clones has become an addiction. I have friends who run clubs and when a strain comes through that blows me away, I hunt it down.

How did you think it worked??? 50-50.. and after all the cost, it's more like 25%.

Nightmarecreature said:

OMG thats bullshit! You know how much work the breeders put into their seeds. All the time lights, nutes, electricity and problems that hit everyone. I'm telling you right now, the first seedbank to start up in the USA, wont be making a 50% profit. That's not till it's legal everywhere but still.

Why breed, when you can sell the buds and make so much more? Vending in Cali is a huge business, with a 50% loss there's no reason to make seeds. My brother is starting a seed business but seeds will be local. No way will he sell those for $30 a pack, that's gay!

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Photographers, packaging, brochures, web-site, travel, testing, water, ele., rent, nutes, supplies, free tester beans, employees, ads,(if you run them),cup booths, cup entries, and the judges get NO "gang of buds" from us... except the 40 grams required of each strain. (and there is only 3 judges usually.. that is a lot of weed for 3 people.)

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Maraketing is huge overhead! Breeders entering Cups, paying for booths, giving out a gang of buds to the judges. I almost feel bad for them but I know it makes up for it by getting their name out.

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That does make more sense 25%. I did not know seedbanks take 50%, I mean they do work but nothing compared to the breeders. If breeders added a shopping cart to their website in the future that would lower seed prices a lot.

I doubt the judges can smoke 40 grams from each breeder.... I think 40 grams for 3 people is a GANG of buds lol!

Something should be done to make seeds 50 state legal. It's recockulas!