Bublonichronic
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Maybe I misinterpreted it ? What does that law actually say ?
Who supports Trump here
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hanimmal
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What law? Are you sure that there is one or that you just 'saw' that there was one?
Fogdog
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The Baloney Detection Kit: Carl Sagan’s Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thinking
Necessary cognitive fortification against propaganda, pseudoscience, and general falsehood.
Tool number one from Carl Sagan's baloney detection toolkit:
- Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
Citation? An independent confirmation of your "fact" is necessary.
Your post appears to fit several different kinds of baloney (20 different kinds of baloney are listed in Carl's toolkit):
ad hominem — Latin for “to the man,” attacking the arguer and not the argument. As in: "California legalized child rape". Did they really? Proof is required.
begging the question, also called assuming the answer . As in: "Do you have a problem with California legalizing child rape?" Please go back to the top of this post. Did they really? Proof is required.
straw man — caricaturing a position to make it easier to attack
suppressed evidence, or half-truths
So, prove it or shut the fuck up.
Fogdog
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naive
xtsho
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The number one suck ass in America is trump himself.
mysunnyboy
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That’s what I mean. You just can’t have a real conversation with them.The Baloney Detection Kit: Carl Sagan’s Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thinking
Necessary cognitive fortification against propaganda, pseudoscience, and general falsehood.www.brainpickings.org
Tool number one from Carl Sagan's baloney detection toolkit:
- Wherever possible there must be independent confirmation of the “facts.”
Citation? An independent confirmation of your "fact" is necessary.
Your post appears to fit several different kinds of baloney (20 different kinds of baloney are listed in Carl's toolkit):
ad hominem — Latin for “to the man,” attacking the arguer and not the argument. As in: "California legalized child rape". Did they really? Proof is required.
begging the question, also called assuming the answer . As in: "Do you have a problem with California legalizing child rape?" Please go back to the top of this post. Did they really? Proof is required.
straw man — caricaturing a position to make it easier to attack
suppressed evidence, or half-truths
So, prove it or shut the fuck up.
And here we have people with no skin in the game trolling Americans.
Why are you Canadians supporting drump on this website? Do you think you’ll change our minds? Are you being paid? Or do you just get off causing a stir?
mysunnyboy
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lol wrong I love to debate, argue as my wife calls it. You’re just not worth my time or interest regarding this situation.
Vietnam lol you’ve absolutely no right to disrespect a Vietnam war veteran.
Fogdog
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I pick door number 3, "Or do you just get off causing a stir?"
Maybe vilepussy got the clap or maybe AIDS when he visited a US gloryhole. Whatever the reason, he's bitter about some perceived harm done to his vile pussy self.
mysunnyboy
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My new signature
captainmorgan
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The pedophile midget that rules your country.
tangerinegreen555
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When the core beliefs of a political party include denying science, voter suppression, conspiracy theories (like QAnon), damaging health care (ie pre existing conditions and $1 million cap) during a global pandemic, only mention the deficit when they are not in power and think (or refuse to condemn) that Charlottesville 'had very fine people on both sides'...
What really is there to talk about?
The weather?
George Will would be a good conservative guy to have an intellectual political discussion with as he accepts facts as facts.
The average Trump supporter is no George Will. The average Trump supporter isn't even a republican.
Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave like a lathe.
high acutance
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I am not a Trump supporter, but I would throw out a few thoughts. If you are a "one issue" voter, with a strong opinion on one of these issues, then you will ignore everything else, and vote on that issue.
A strong anti-abortion voter. Trump will appoint judges to overturn Roe v Wade.
Worried about losing your guns? Trump will protect your right to carry better than the other guy.
Want federal aid for religious schools? Trump will encourage that, despite the obvious church and state issues.
Think environmental concerns destroy our economy? (Lumberjacks vs Spotted Owls, strip mines create jobs, global warming is a hoax to over-regulate industry.) Then Trump's your guy.
Hate the fact that taxes are collected by government, and then the money is given to the wrong people? Trump claims to be a tax-cutter (and for the wealthy, he is) and he won't be supporting programs for the benefit of black or brown people that you, Mr. White Guy, don't think are worth supporting.
Immigration. If you blame our ills on the high level of Hispanic and other immigrants, Trump is your anti-immigration, border wall
Psychologists speak of the appeal of the authoritarian to some people. A strong dictator is a good thing, if he's our dictator. Note how Trump cozies up to the worlds strongmen, Putin of Russia, Duarte of the Philippines, Bolsonaro of Brasil, and that bad ass in Saudi Arabia. So if you crave faith in a strong leader, Trump says he's your guy, and Joe looks a little frail. Trump will take care of you (like a Big Brother).
Finally, if you think the whole system is corrupt (and it may be!) and that a disrupter like Trump will tear it all down, and bring us to The Rapture, then once again, Trump's your guy.
I may be missing something, no doubt, and many voters are on the same side of more than one of these issues.
Problem is, the man is a con man carnival barker who will promise anyone whatever they want to hear. Remember "infrastructure?" he was going to rebuild America. Remember, he will replace Obamacare with his plan which will be better and cheaper. (Where is it? Almost three years now, and no plan.) Even The Wall (useless as it is) has been barely begun. I don't think Mexico has paid for it yet.
I give credit to Trump for one thing. He hasn't started any stupid wars like so many before him.
A strong anti-abortion voter. Trump will appoint judges to overturn Roe v Wade.
Worried about losing your guns? Trump will protect your right to carry better than the other guy.
Want federal aid for religious schools? Trump will encourage that, despite the obvious church and state issues.
Think environmental concerns destroy our economy? (Lumberjacks vs Spotted Owls, strip mines create jobs, global warming is a hoax to over-regulate industry.) Then Trump's your guy.
Hate the fact that taxes are collected by government, and then the money is given to the wrong people? Trump claims to be a tax-cutter (and for the wealthy, he is) and he won't be supporting programs for the benefit of black or brown people that you, Mr. White Guy, don't think are worth supporting.
Immigration. If you blame our ills on the high level of Hispanic and other immigrants, Trump is your anti-immigration, border wall
Psychologists speak of the appeal of the authoritarian to some people. A strong dictator is a good thing, if he's our dictator. Note how Trump cozies up to the worlds strongmen, Putin of Russia, Duarte of the Philippines, Bolsonaro of Brasil, and that bad ass in Saudi Arabia. So if you crave faith in a strong leader, Trump says he's your guy, and Joe looks a little frail. Trump will take care of you (like a Big Brother).
Finally, if you think the whole system is corrupt (and it may be!) and that a disrupter like Trump will tear it all down, and bring us to The Rapture, then once again, Trump's your guy.
I may be missing something, no doubt, and many voters are on the same side of more than one of these issues.
Problem is, the man is a con man carnival barker who will promise anyone whatever they want to hear. Remember "infrastructure?" he was going to rebuild America. Remember, he will replace Obamacare with his plan which will be better and cheaper. (Where is it? Almost three years now, and no plan.) Even The Wall (useless as it is) has been barely begun. I don't think Mexico has paid for it yet.
I give credit to Trump for one thing. He hasn't started any stupid wars like so many before him.
potroastV2
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Oh yeah, here's another new member who starts a post like this!
We've never seen this before.
hanimmal
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Nice to meet you. I think the problem is more when people are tricked into believing what foreign dictator's online armies are spamming to them in all their feeds.
Trump will appoint judges that make it illegal for federal payments to be used to pay for any healthcare entity that provides abortions. They will not actually stop the ability of wealthy people to get them, just not people who can least afford to pay the out of pocket private doctor prices.
'Encourage' but he can't actually pass anything so it is all just him spouting lies and trolling educators.
'Think' something that is based on a false reality is about par for the course I guess.
Which is why Trump's economy has failed.
You forgot Muslims.
Ah your Dear Leader is the one that killed Khashoggi huh.
Technically then it wouldn't matter because you are certain at that point we are in end times anyways.
Actually Trump just let foreign militaries conduct warfare on our citizens without any response. Trump surrendered before the fight even started.
tangerinegreen555
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The only stupid war in the 21st century was invading Iraq.
The other 'wars' were against networks of terrorist bandits like those behind 9/11. Not against countries. Unless you think we should have let 9/11 slide and forget about it.
hanimmal
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Im guessing if they are a Saudi troll they just might.
mysunnyboy
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Beat me to that shitOh yeah, here's another new member who starts a post like this!
We've never seen this before.
mysunnyboy
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You give credit to trump for lots of things.
mysunnyboy
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Sounds like a term paper btw.
Why I Would Vote for Trumpf (If I were old enough)
Fogdog
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I have a question that comes from homework given in my kid's high school US History class, which he attends remotely because of the Trump virus. He's been assigned to list Trump's 2016 campaign promises and how Trump fulfilled them.
The first on the list is a toughy:
When did Trump complete his border wall and how much did Mexico pay for it?
Thank you so much for helping us out.