Why America Must Prosecute War Crimes

Jointsmith · Feb 2, 2009

CrackerJax said:
You mistake your passion for logic.

Depends on what you believe eh? That's a pretty astute statement.

illegal wars... :lol I won't even bother with that drivel. I would go back to one of my earlier posts and just say, why broadcast your enslavement to spin? You are in a very very small percentage of the population who believes that non-sense.

Look, Obama has already said NO. Figure it out, it isn't going to happen. Dead issue.... your base was used to get him elected as well as Congress and they are now done with you. What part don't you understand? Psst...they never intended to prosecute. a bit slow

But keep swinging..... it always entertaining.

out.

It would only take a second of your reading time to see that actually I don't live in your country..... so why would I care what your President thinks about Bush Commiting War Crimes? he OBVIOUSLY has a BIAS.

Whatever your countrymen think, it doesn't change the fact that LARGE SEGMENTS of THE REST OF THE WORLD feel the wars were illegal and that Bush and YOUR COUNTRY have commited War Crimes.

And yeah actually it DOES depend what you believe. I DON'T believe 9/11 was carried out by extremist's, it simply doesn't make sense to me, there is no real MOTIVE (one of the first things to look for in a crime).

I do however see Motive, Means and Opportunity from your last government.....Prove me wrong.... You can't eitherway....... so lets just look at what we KNOW to be TRUE.

Jointsmith · Feb 2, 2009

Scary to think one could be lied to by a Government in trying to consolidate power...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

medicineman · Feb 2, 2009

Jointsmith said:
Scary to think one could be lied to by a Government in trying to consolidate power...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

I wonder if in time, we'll ever find out the answer. They are already revising the Kennedy assassination, On the last attempt to prove it was a lone gunman (Oswald), they eliminated the frames in the Zapruder film that showed his head being slammed violently towards the rear of the car and part of his skull and brains landing on the trunk of the car, A definite frontal shot. That lone bullet theory is bullshit. The pristine bullet found on Connolys cot in the hospital that had gone through two bodies, tearing flesh and crushing bone with out a scratch on it, Bullshit

GrowRebel · Feb 2, 2009

CrackerJax said:
Since i only follow money trails coupled with actual action as opposed to words like change and hope (lawdy) I am far more objective about politics than you are

You wouldn't know a "money trails" if it pop you in your bushwhacked head ... objective! ... yeah ... bushwhacked objectivity ... and we all know what that is like ... :roll:

CrackerJax said:
Saudis DO have a shady rehab program. We ARE releasing terrorists from Gitmo to have them show up recycled in the war against us and our way of life.

No proof of that ... merely corporate propaganda ... that you continue to fall for ... no surprises there ... someone posted some bullshit about some suppose gitmo prisoner ...returning to a terror group ... they had a picture of them "in the field" ... but no picture of them when they were at gitmo ... I wonder why? :sleep:

CrackerJax said:
I did not vote for Bush in 2000. Let's be clear. I did vote for him in 04, My PROUD vote helped achieve both objectives.
out.

So you were one of those stupid people they were talking about ... :dunce:

out ...

CrackerJax · Feb 2, 2009

Jointsmith said:
It would only take a second of your reading time to see that actually I don't live in your country..... so why would I care what your President thinks about Bush Commiting War Crimes? he OBVIOUSLY has a BIAS.

Whatever your countrymen think, it doesn't change the fact that LARGE SEGMENTS of THE REST OF THE WORLD feel the wars were illegal and that Bush and YOUR COUNTRY have commited War Crimes.

And yeah actually it DOES depend what you believe. I DON'T believe 9/11 was carried out by extremist's, it simply doesn't make sense to me, there is no real MOTIVE (one of the first things to look for in a crime).

I do however see Motive, Means and Opportunity from your last government.....Prove me wrong.... You can't eitherway....... so lets just look at what we KNOW to be TRUE.

Since you live in another country(UK) you have your own bias now don't you? :lol:

nuff said there.

You can feel anyway you wish... just make sure you are honest about it. Don't ever forget we float the defense which enables you to feel negatively towards your benefactors. Frankly Americans feel the worlds moral compass is not exactly a shining example of leadership. Considering most of all the hot spots in the world are leftovers of the british colonial (oppressive) empire. Go ahead, throw stones.... :lol:

We always consider the source of our criticism.....................
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If you think 9/11 was staged then you are deep in the rabbit hole of disinformation and I can't guide you out.

out. :blsmoke:

CrackerJax · Feb 2, 2009

GrowRebel said:
You wouldn't know a "money trails" if it pop you in your bushwhacked head ... objective! ... yeah ... bushwhacked objectivity ... and we all know what that is like ...

No proof of that ... merely corporate propaganda ... that you continue to fall for ... no surprises there ... someone posted some bullshit about some suppose gitmo prisoner ...returning to a terror group ... they had a picture of them "in the field" ... but no picture of them when they were at gitmo ... I wonder why?

So you were one of those stupid people they were talking about ...

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yes, and absolutely sure the correct choice was made. War....won. America kept ....safe. AlQueda concentrated and....eliminated in Iraq. Saddam....dead.

yepper, Kerry could have achieved all of that.... not.

the Daily Mirror...nuff said there :mrgreen:

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chicoles · Feb 2, 2009

Jointsmith said:
It would only take a second of your reading time to see that actually I don't live in your country..... so why would I care what your President thinks about Bush Commiting War Crimes? he OBVIOUSLY has a BIAS.

Whatever your countrymen think, it doesn't change the fact that LARGE SEGMENTS of THE REST OF THE WORLD feel the wars were illegal and that Bush and YOUR COUNTRY have commited War Crimes.

And yeah actually it DOES depend what you believe. I DON'T believe 9/11 was carried out by extremist's, it simply doesn't make sense to me, there is no real MOTIVE (one of the first things to look for in a crime).

I do however see Motive, Means and Opportunity from your last government.....Prove me wrong.... You can't eitherway....... so lets just look at what we KNOW to be TRUE.

We caught the dirtbag that mastermined the attack. We have one of their associates that was planning to participate in the attack. He was undergoing flight training in Minnesota. We have video evidence of the perpetrators going through the airports and we have the contacts with the plane that did not get to the target. What kind of brainwashing could you have endurred to come to your conclusions.

GrowRebel · Feb 2, 2009

chicoles said:
We caught the dirtbag that mastermined the attack. We have one of their associates that was planning to participate in the attack. He was undergoing flight training in Minnesota. We have video evidence of the perpetrators going through the airports and we have the contacts with the plane that did not get to the target. What kind of brainwashing could you have endurred to come to your conclusions.

Oh no ... you have what the government told you ... nothing more ... and it has been clearly established that the government has lied about 911 ... all that you speak of was nothing but government propaganda ... no real evidence that the people they claim did it really did ... some of the people who were suppose to be hijackers on the plane are alive and well ...and terrorist can't get NORAD to stand down ... nor can buildings design to withstand fire and plane crashes ... can come down in 15 seconds ... demo style ... you have to be a real idiot to believe that those buildings came down like that without help ... it's obvious the government is lying ... and you are one of those folks that fail for the lies ... :sleep:

CrackerJax · Feb 2, 2009

Talk about brainwashed..... I suppose the moon landing was faked too :mrgreen:

Oh my...ur in the same category...careful.

out. :blsmoke:

chicoles · Feb 2, 2009

I don't know what to say growrebel...clearly established? No evidence?

chicoles · Feb 2, 2009

Is there an Ignore list on RIU?

GrowRebel · Feb 2, 2009

CrackerJax said:
yes, and absolutely sure the correct choice was made. War....won.

Only in your bushwhacked mind ... the killing goes on ... Iraq is fuck because of an illegal US invasion ...

CrackerJax said:
America kept ....safe.

That because they didn't do anymore false flag attack in the US after 911 ... so another delusion bushwhacked fantasy ...

CrackerJax said:
AlQueda concentrated and....eliminated in Iraq.

A fake organization created by the bush crime regime and PNAC ... only dummies like you that love fear mongering fell for that bullshit ...and the so called Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq until the illegal US invasion ... I wonder why? :dunce:

CrackerJax said:
Saddam....dead.

A group of war criminals takes out another ... so they can steal the resources ... so what else is new :twisted:

CrackerJax said:
yepper, Kerry could have achieved all of that.... not.

the Daily Mirror...nuff said there
out.

When it's right ... it's right ... it doesn't matter the source ... nuff said ... :neutral:

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GrowRebel · Feb 2, 2009

chicoles said:
I don't know what to say growrebel...clearly established? No evidence?

I guess you wouldn't know what to say if you buy the government story about 911 ... and no ... there isn't any real evidence ... only trumped up charges and kangaroo courts ... and yes ... it has been clearly established that the government lied ... :neutral:

GrowRebel · Feb 2, 2009

CrackerJax said:
Talk about brainwashed..... I suppose the moon landing was faked too Oh my...ur in the same category...careful.
out.

The bushwhacked certainly do love calling the kettle black ... kiss-assout :razz:

Jointsmith · Feb 3, 2009

CrackerJax said:
Since you live in another country(UK) you have your own bias now don't you? nuff said there.

Why's that then? I never had a Bias before I saw the attrocities carried out in the name of 'democracy'.

CrackerJax said:
You can feel anyway you wish... just make sure you are honest about it. Don't ever forget we float the defense which enables you to feel negatively towards your benefactors. Frankly Americans feel the worlds moral compass is not exactly a shining example of leadership. Considering most of all the hot spots in the world are leftovers of the british colonial (oppressive) empire. Go ahead, throw stones....

We always consider the source of our criticism.....................
.........

Like I said we don't need your defense, you sound like a mobster offering a protection racquet, THE ONLY REAL THREAT TO WORLD PEACE IS THE USA.

I'm sure we can both throw stones from our countries history (may I remind you your forebearers treatment of the INDIGINOUS people of your country), but the world needs to move forward.

There will never be peace in the world untill there is some sort of resolution on what Isreal is doing to Gaza (supported by the USA) and the USA's continued exploitation of Iraq

CrackerJax said:
If you think 9/11 was staged then you are deep in the rabbit hole of disinformation and I can't guide you out.

out.

You can think I'm crazy, it really doesn't bother me at all, I have come to my conclusions (and I don't claim to KNOW what happened) by assessing the WEALTH of information there is to be read and watched on the subject.

Did you know the BBC did a documentary about tower 7? thats what sparked my interest, find it on Youtube. Ever heard of Barry Jennings? Google search him.

It's funny you should call me Brainwashed when I don't even have a TV, the Brainwashing tool for the Masses. Maybe you should turn yours off once in a while..... or maybe you don't like ingesting information unless it has been approved by a Board of TV execs.

CrackerJax · Feb 3, 2009

GrowRebel said:
The bushwhacked certainly do love calling the kettle black ... kiss-assout

No, my assessment is based on evidence in which 90% of Americans and ALL of Congress believe. You are the fringe element pal, not I. Wear it proudly I say. get a T shirt or something. Good luck, ur stance is getting so small, it's difficult to focus on you.

Jointsmith said:
Why's that then? I never had a Bias before I saw the attrocities carried out in the name of 'democracy'.

Like I said we don't need your defense, you sound like a mobster offering a protection racquet, THE ONLY REAL THREAT TO WORLD PEACE IS THE USA.

I'm sure we can both throw stones from our countries history (may I remind you your forebearers treatment of the INDIGINOUS people of your country), but the world needs to move forward.

There will never be peace in the world untill there is some sort of resolution on what Isreal is doing to Gaza (supported by the USA) and the USA's continued exploitation of Iraq

You can think I'm crazy, it really doesn't bother me at all, I have come to my conclusions (and I don't claim to KNOW what happened) by assessing the WEALTH of information there is to be read and watched on the subject.

Did you know the BBC did a documentary about tower 7? thats what sparked my interest, find it on Youtube. Ever heard of Barry Jennings? Google search him.

It's funny you should call me Brainwashed when I don't even have a TV, the Brainwashing tool for the Masses. Maybe you should turn yours off once in a while..... or maybe you don't like ingesting information unless it has been approved by a Board of TV execs.

You are amusing so i will post back to you.

Atrocities? Please list atriocities..... don't forget the other side when you do. I can give you a hint. One side will be very easy to list.

Next!

You don't need my defense....first of all it's not mine to give and I claim no credit for extending the shield over Europe for the past 60 years. That's a laff that you don't need it and with that statement you show some real innocence on what is going on around you. This is where I started to find you amusing.

As for our plight with the aboriginals, you are right about that, so I won't counter with Australia or flank you with Africa. However the indigenous episodes of both of our countries has not left behind huge open political sores as has the complete and total destruction of the British Empire.

Son, I watched the towers go into those buildings..... to even say with a straight face that it was all planned is to give up all public pretense that you have intelligence. I do believe there are lots of folks making lots of money by telling a certain fringe exactly what they want to hear, no matter the convolution. Since the base of population which are suceptible to spin are not heavy on logic to start with....very easy to fool. If you wish to stay on the edges of logic, be my guest, ur choice.
Ever wonder why there isn't a big effort by the BUSHIES to discredit your ideas? Pssst.... they laff at the ideas and know only wingnuts will be convinced.

You assume I meant TV and then you assume I watch it. I can see where you might just leap before you look in other key area of judgment.

Good luck with the myopia...maybe your Optomologist, can give you some drops.... so whats the waiting list in UK for eye drops? 2 years? :lol:

out.

Jointsmith · Feb 3, 2009

CrackerJax said:
You are amusing so i will post back to you.

Atrocities? Please list atriocities..... don't forget the other side when you do. I can give you a hint. One side will be very easy to list.

Next!

You don't need my defense....first of all it's not mine to give and I claim no credit for extending the shield over Europe for the past 60 years. That's a laff that you don't need it and with that statement you show some real innocence on what is going on around you. This is where I started to find you amusing.

As for our plight with the aboriginals, you are right about that, so I won't counter with Australia or flank you with Africa. However the indigenous episodes of both of our countries has not left behind huge open political sores as has the complete and total destruction of the British Empire.

Son, I watched the towers go into those buildings..... to even say with a straight face that it was all planned is to give up all public pretense that you have intelligence. I do believe there are lots of folks making lots of money by telling a certain fringe exactly what they want to hear, no matter the convolution. Since the base of population which are suceptible to spin are not heavy on logic to start with....very easy to fool. If you wish to stay on the edges of logic, be my guest, ur choice.
Ever wonder why there isn't a big effort by the BUSHIES to discredit your ideas? Pssst.... they laff at the ideas and know only wingnuts will be convinced.

You assume I meant TV and then you assume I watch it. I can see where you might just leap before you look in other key area of judgment.

Good luck with the myopia...maybe your Optomologist, can give you some drops.... so whats the waiting list in UK for eye drops? 2 years?

out.

Nice way to dodge some direct questions.

Like I said, both our countries has commited some pretty attrocious acts in our history, like I said, we're talking about the Present, and moving >>> Forward.

I've told you where my viewpoint comes from, now how have you constructed YOUR ideas?

And who do you think is making money from perpeptuating conspiricy theory's? you obviously haven't thought that through.

Oh yeah, That jibe about the eyedrops made me Gaffaw (laugh), I actually had to see a doctor on Friday, first time in years, I called for an appointment at 9am, they wanted me to come in for 10am, I couldn't be bothered to get out of bed so I pushed it back to 11am (they were very accomodating). It was nothing serious, but they decided to do an ECG scan (heart scan) anyway, offered me a number of appointments for later that day and I chose one that was convienient for me....now I just have to await the results.

The best thing about it.... it was entirely FREE.....AND....If there IS something wrong with me it'll be fixed FOR FREE!...AND....I can go back WHENEVER I feel there is something wrong with me....FOR FREE!!! :lol:

Free healthcare for ALL is F'in GREAT A+, you suckers should get on it.

You seem to have some real misconceptions about our healthcare......I have PERFECT teeth, thankyou NHS Braces.

So thats healthcare (we win obviously).....Now, shall we start on our education systems? ....or maybe Law Enforcement?.....or the prison system?

CrackerJax · Feb 3, 2009

You cannot move forward unless you know where you are and where you have been, unless a poor result of circumstance is what you seek.

Your health system is costing you HUGE for the return you receive. Just run some numbers...pretty apparent.

Apparently you are unaware that the UK economy is in a free fall. Back to pre-thatcher economics result in well....your present condition.... way to go Gordo...way to go.

It's not free you ninkompoop.... not free at all. Now you are embarrassing yourself.

I've been watching your nations credit ratings slip....how much further can you go? We'll see... we'll see. get those teeth worked on while you can... it's FREE!!! :mrgreen:

lawdy.....

out. :blsmoke:

Jointsmith · Feb 3, 2009

CrackerJax said:
You cannot move forward unless you know where you are and where you have been, unless a poor result of circumstance is what you seek.

Yes I agree, thats why we're debating these conspiricy theories right?

CrackerJax said:
Your health system is costing you HUGE for the return you receive. Just run some numbers...pretty apparent.

Apparently you are unaware that the UK economy is in a free fall. Back to pre-thatcher economics result in well....your present condition.... way to go Gordo...way to go.

It's not free you ninkompoop.... not free at all. Now you are embarrassing yourself.

I've been watching your nations credit ratings slip....how much further can you go? We'll see... we'll see. get those teeth worked on while you can... it's FREE!!! lawdy.....

out.

Ah there we go thought we'd see that eventually, the good old American Obssesion with MONEY.

The numbers in terms of 'MONEY' is a load of Bull, lets look at it in terms of numbers of people treated and what affect that has on their lives...or as we call it RESULTS....I think most people will agree our system works better than yours in that respect....shit, Cuba's system works better than yours in that respect.

Our healthcare is as FREE as it comes, ANYONE; rich, poor, old, young, alike can get the quality healthcare they need, without having to worry about paying for it. Yeah I pay taxes and I'm proud to.

And if I CHOOSE to pay for it, I can get PRIVATE healthcare, the gov't will even contribute what they would have paid to the NHS towards your healthcare.

Your healthcare system on the other hand is a JOKE, expensive health insurance or masses of debt if you get sick? a great choice if you don't have much money to begin with....not. But hey, Fuck the Poor their obviously lazy, which is why their children deserve less extensive healthcare than the children of the wealthy.

It's true that financial systems AROUND THE GLOBE (including yours) are crumbling. But do you realise why this is?

Do you know how the American Banking system works? How banks can CREATE money out of NOTHING? And how this banking system benefits from, and expands through, illegal wars your country starts.

CrackerJax · Feb 3, 2009

Obsession with money? no, just kowing what the costs are. They are costs you know, even if you say they are free....

You say your health care is free, but that is a blatantly incorrect statement. It's burying you my friend...the costs.

Our healthcare is not a joke and surely you jest. I guess that is why we have to turn Canadians away from our doors huh? They have your health system and yet they find their way down here, despite the cost.... guess why....

I dare say you are grossly misinformed as to American issues.

Money does not come from nothing, even if they print it... :lol:

who told you that? Oh my.... :lol:

I hardly think there is much of a debate going on about 9/11 except with the lunatic fringe. The rest of us can accept the hard truth even if you cannot. Don't worry, we'll carry you along despite yourself.

out. :blsmoke:

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