Why are ancient thoughts held in such high regard?

OldGrowth420 said:

Do what works. Follow the well worn path that leads to prosperity and peace.
If a path brings holiness and joy and peace, and is time tested.. There may be validity to it.

It is much wiser to follow the ancient path that is proven to work rather than trying to figure it all out on your own and in one lifetime.

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“Religion is about turning untested belief into unshakable truth through the power of institutions and the passage of time.” ― Richard Dawkins

Mister Sister said:

Not necessarily. Remember when the modem came out, and everyone thought "Wow this internets is advanced stuff"? There was already 'high-speed' internet available at that time, but you make more money when you reverse engineer technology. Actually, you can make infinite profit (in theory). Just stay 100 years ahead of the knowledge of the public.

There is 'evidence' out there, but who the hell is Joe Schmo to be able to access it? In a world powered by money (greed/ego), secrecy is king. It's no coincidence that an extremely small percentage of mankind owns the vast majority of the world. We have too many material obligations to go traveling the globe in search of anything, let alone hidden technology. It's the american dream; consume and obey, don't question anything.

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It is extremely difficult to keep absolute secrecy about anything in this internet/information age. Not even the director of the CIA, or the President of the USA, could keep there affairs secret. These are some of the world's most powerful men. There are hoards of anthropologists and other scientists around the world who are constantly searching and are foaming at the mouth to unearth anything from an ancient 'advanced' civilization. Even the very well funded Graham Hancock, whose mission in life is to find ANY evidence of an advanced civilization, has come up with nothing after decades of searching. Why speculate about things that haven't a shred of evidence to support them?

OldGrowth420 said:

Do what works. Follow the well worn path that leads to prosperity and peace.
If a path brings holiness and joy and peace, and is time tested.. There may be validity to it.

It is much wiser to follow the ancient path that is proven to work rather than trying to figure it all out on your own and in one lifetime.

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Eh I'm really conflicted about liking that so i gotta say i kinda like it in the context of this thread purely, but there is no replacement for true innovation or critical thinking, ideas of the past are so often just that, stuck in the past...

OldGrowth420 said:

Do what works. Follow the well worn path that leads to prosperity and peace.
If a path brings holiness and joy and peace, and is time tested.. There may be validity to it.

It is much wiser to follow the ancient path that is proven to work rather than trying to figure it all out on your own and in one lifetime.

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But only if that path has to do with Jesus, right? Because all other paths lead to hell...

It's easy to keep a conspiracy secret. All you have to do is create enough fake conspiracies to insure no one recognizes the true one.

Bigfoot, Contrails, Aliens, Invisible Battleships, Kennedy, Secret Tunnels... No doubt one is real but we will never know which.

There is one reason we honor various ancient thinkers. They thought of it first. No doubt they had it easy because they lived in the days before all sorts of shit had already been thought. As time goes on, we will think of fewer and fewer new ideas. Eventually our culture will stagnate as nothing new is ever thought of.

tyler.durden said:

It is extremely difficult to keep absolute secrecy about anything in this internet/information age. Not even the director of the CIA, or the President of the USA, could keep there affairs secret. These are some of the world's most powerful men. There are hoards of anthropologists and other scientists around the world who are constantly searching and are foaming at the mouth to unearth anything from an ancient 'advanced' civilization. Even the very well funded Graham Hancock, whose mission in life is to find ANY evidence of an advanced civilization, has come up with nothing after decades of searching. Why speculate about things that haven't a shred of evidence to support them?

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I kindly disagree. It is very easy during this information age, because that is exactly what it is - an endless sea of information to wade through; "The Rabbit Hole" accessible via the keyboard. Kervork said it right, not all conspiracies can be true, but some of them inevitably will be. Then you start reading the comment section and by the time you know it, the only thing left is an "I'm right, you're wrong" fight amongst the anonymous sea.. Not only do you have lifetimes worth of viewing material, you have access to every person's thoughts on the subject.

I believe it is easier than we think because of the relatively small percentage of the population holding the majority of the knowledge. Not a surprise that the institutional scholar can't find the truth, despite all of their learning and scholarly lifestyles - they are still being educated by (government funded) universities.

Padawanbater2 said:

This baffles me. You hear so many people today talk about the ancients with such high esteem, don't get me wrong, they hold their share of credit for innovation, but for fucks sake, why do so may people think they had all the answers? The ancients barely knew shit of the modern world, and couldn't predict what was to come. Modern man has a much better grasp on the world than the ancients did. Aztecs, Incas, stfu, do you know any Aztec or Incan people? I wonder why...

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I agree very much with your sentiment here, at least as I understand it. However, I think the way you present it makes it difficult for me to just agree wholesale. Like the thing about the Aztecs, millions of people still speak Nahua and are not only of indigenous descent but also identify as Aztecs, and yes, I know a lot of them so I would answer that question affirmative, I know plenty of Aztecs.

Padawanbater2 said:

This baffles me. You hear so many people today talk about the ancients with such high esteem, don't get me wrong, they hold their share of credit for innovation, but for fucks sake, why do so may people think they had all the answers? The ancients barely knew shit of the modern world, and couldn't predict what was to come. Modern man has a much better grasp on the world than the ancients did. Aztecs, Incas, stfu, do you know any Aztec or Incan people? I wonder why...

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Modern man doesn't have a better grip. We may have different technology, but we're no smarter than we were 10,000 years ago.

Omgwtfbbq Indicaman said:

i know right? they had so much foresight that they let a revolutionary war occur do to not outlawing slavery...

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The Revolutionary war had nothing to do with slavery.

Padawanbater2 said:

An ancient civilization wouldn't stand a chance against the information I hold, you're truly kidding yourself if you think otherwise

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I think you may be kidding yourself.

mindphuk said:

If this were true, wouldn't you think we would find evidence of this technology somewhere?

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They made all their stuff out of bio-degradable materials.

tyler.durden said:

It is extremely difficult to keep absolute secrecy about anything in this internet/information age. Not even the director of the CIA, or the President of the USA, could keep there affairs secret. These are some of the world's most powerful men. There are hoards of anthropologists and other scientists around the world who are constantly searching and are foaming at the mouth to unearth anything from an ancient 'advanced' civilization. Even the very well funded Graham Hancock, whose mission in life is to find ANY evidence of an advanced civilization, has come up with nothing after decades of searching. Why speculate about things that haven't a shred of evidence to support them?

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Because you can get government grants and donations from the gullible to pay your salary and expenses while you "research" them.

Red1966 said:

They made all their stuff out of bio-degradable materials.

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Flying saucer seeds! cn

The civil war is what you call a revolutionary war that fails. If the south would have won the would have called it the second revolutionary war.

Kervork said:

The civil war is what you call a revolutionary war that fails. If the south would have won the would have called it the second revolutionary war.

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Fail..........

Kervork said:

There is one reason we honor various ancient thinkers. They thought of it first. No doubt they had it easy because they lived in the days before all sorts of shit had already been thought. As time goes on, we will think of fewer and fewer new ideas. Eventually our culture will stagnate as nothing new is ever thought of.

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This may be true if knowledge were simply discovered, but knowledge is also invented and is generated from prior knowledge. Humanity has acquired more scientific knowledge and technological advances over the last 200 years than in all prior history combined. And the rate at which knowledge and technological advances are being generated is not slowing but increasing (i.e. Moore's Law), and the more knowledge we have, the faster it increases. Our culture may not survive, but it won't be from boredom...

Red1966 said:

Fail..........

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Actually, doesn't he have a point? Had the secession worked, that'd have been their revolution. History is written by the winners after all. cn

Red1966 said:

The Revolutionary war had nothing to do with slavery.

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yes it did. but i think you'll have a revisionist view on the subject anyway.

Red1966 said:

Because you can get government grants and donations from the gullible to pay your salary and expenses while you "research" them.

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or get cults of people to build monumental buildings taking up untold amounts of land and not have to pay taxes on it like the rest of us.

cannabineer said:

Actually, doesn't he have a point? Had the secession worked, that'd have been their revolution. History is written by the winners after all. cn

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Yeah i failed to understand that Fail too...