Why do Bernie Babies deny helping Trump get elected?

see4 said:
Huh? It's ok for a candidate to, under false pretense, switch political parties with the sole intention to disrupt it and seek an advantage, but the entire DNC should go to jail because they made it kinda harder for that candidate?

You can't honestly be serious.
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Where do you get false pretenses? He was public about his intentions the whole way. Bottom line; I don't care about party or the individual; I'm interested in issues.

Are you loyal to a party that doesn't care about democracy? That's the question.
 
UncleBuck said:
i wonder why a misogynist who hates women because he can't get laid blames bernie's landslide loss in the primary on two women who he wants to charge with a crime for the fact that bernie sucks ass.
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Nina Turner, Elizabeth Warren, Cori Bush, Letitia Plummer, Alexandria Ocasio, Adrienne Bell, Paula Jean Swearingen, Sarah Smith, Amy Vilela, Dotty Nygard, Roza Calderon

Totally misogynist

Totally hates women

All these women support Sanders. Let's see you argue that.
 
Quoting someone verbatim is a cheap shot?

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ttystikk said:
Where do you get false pretenses? He was public about his intentions the whole way. Bottom line; I don't care about party or the individual; I'm interested in issues.

Are you loyal to a party that doesn't care about democracy? That's the question.
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I'm not loyal to any party. I'm loyal to issues. But more importantly I'm loyal to fixing shit. And loyal to what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

I'm not loyal to anything until every citizen's vote is equal. My vote is just as important as Billy Bob's vote in Redneckville, Alabama. And vice versa. Until then, my only agenda is to get Citizen's United reversed and get gerrymandering abolished. In 2016, the only way that would have happened is if Hillary was elected. Bernie lost the primary and Berniebabies were butthurt, and lost the election for Hillary. Thus erasing any chance of Citizen's United and gerrymandering being abolished.

If you voted for someone other than Hillary, you don't care about democracy as much as I do, and have no place to lecture me about it.
 
st0wandgrow said:
Why does it matter who runs? Why are you so hung up on this? Shouldn't the will of the voters be all that matters? If the majority of registered dem voters want candidate A, regardless of that candidates credentials, shouldn't that be the determining factor?

You're basically saying that you want a handful of cronies to decide what's best for all of us. Fuck that shit. I'm with tty....if they don't remedy this, they can kiss my vote goodbye.

Pada made a great point too. You're all up in arms over the electoral college, because your vote doesn't count for as much as you think it should, and yet your willing to accept something equally egregious because it's your team doing it. You can't have it both ways.
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The will of the Democratic voters was to elect Hillary Clinton. Hillary beat Bernie by more than 3.7 million votes.

The rest of your nonsense flies completely in the face of what I've been saying for the past 20 posts. I feel like you are arguing for the sake of arguing. And that's cool, I suppose you are bored. -- You won't be changing my mind on this one... so it's up to you if you want to continue talking in circles.

Bernie changes parties to get an advantage and me believing in everyone's vote should be counted equally is like comparing apples in India with my dick size. Completely two separate arguments. The later being a very small argument. -- I just said my tiny penis is tiny.

"You're basically saying that you want a handful of cronies to decide....." -- No, that's exactly what I'm not saying. Precisely that. Stop putting words in my mouth to waste time. It's boring.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
So what? There's nothing wrong with that. All you've said so far is what he's done and that you disagree with it. Not why you disagree with it or why it's wrong. Party loyalty over democracy is wrong.
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Ok. Fair enough, "so what if Bernie switched parties to seek an advantage".

You can guess what my response will be....

"So what if the DNC made it more difficult for Bernie..."

Like snowblower stated.... you can't have it both ways. Sport.

Yawn... these circles are boring. You guys are too stubborn.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
You are arguing against the label he chose to use because the Democratic party was not progressive enough for him. It's a very weak and poorly thought out argument.
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Ok, so why didn't he run as an Independent? Or perhaps a Republican?

I suspect it's because he wants to go down the path of least resistance. Like all Berniebabies, he wants easy free shit without having to work for it.

And rather than compromise, you prefer to dig your stubborn "free stuff" heels in the ground and allow Trump to win the presidency. All but ensuring that Bernie will never get elected, and the perpetuation of Citizen's United for at least another generation.
 
see4 said:
I'm not loyal to any party. I'm loyal to issues. But more importantly I'm loyal to fixing shit. And loyal to what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

I'm not loyal to anything until every citizen's vote is equal. My vote is just as important as Billy Bob's vote in Redneckville, Alabama. And vice versa. Until then, my only agenda is to get Citizen's United reversed and get gerrymandering abolished. In 2016, the only way that would have happened is if Hillary was elected. Bernie lost the primary and Berniebabies were butthurt, and lost the election for Hillary. Thus erasing any chance of Citizen's United and gerrymandering being abolished.

If you voted for someone other than Hillary, you don't care about democracy as much as I do, and have no place to lecture me about it.
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I have every place to to discuss my options, as do you.

I agree with the need to prioritize the end of Citizens United as a top priority. Putting the brakes on gerrymandering is also a laudable goal.

There's little else in that post that passes the smell test.
 
see4 said:
Ok. Fair enough, "so what if Bernie switched parties to seek an advantage".

You can guess what my response will be....

"So what if the DNC made it more difficult for Bernie..."

Like snowblower stated.... you can't have it both ways. Sport.

Yawn... these circles are boring. You guys are too stubborn.
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You're just wrong.
 
ttystikk said:
I have every place to to discuss my options, as do you.

I agree with the need to prioritize the end of Citizens United as a top priority.

There's little else in that post that passes the smell test.
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The rest of the post is meaningless if what you took away from it was that we need to prioritize the end of CU.

Now you're thinking on the right track. Good for you!
 
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