ONEeyedWILLY444
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yeah arjan is a poo face sissy.........
Why do so many ppl dog Arjan?
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MeanGreen187
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simple fact arjan & franco have created some of the most fan-fucking-tastic weed in the world they have good prices and there seeds almost always germinate point set match
to serve man
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I don't know what makes that a "simple fact", because that entire thing is only fact to you and you alone. I don't think that they have created the most fan-fucking-tastic weed in the world, quite the contrary actually. You may say that White Widow to be an example of a great strain created by Greenhouse, but you also need to remember that Arjan didn't create White Widow at all. I forget the guys name right now that used to run Greenhouse before Arjan took over, but he was an actual Breeder. They do have cheap prices, but hey, you get what you pay for with them. Not very potent buds. And yes, most of their gear will germinate but the quailty of their plants are horrible. They seem to choose any pheno they want, not caring about any characteristics about it (as shown in their little fake docu on youtube), and then releasing it. Not good breeding practices. As greg green in The Cannabis Breeders Bible stated as the #1 trait of a good breeder is "they do not produce hermaphrodite seeds". Just by that one alone, Greenhouse and Arjan FAIL FAIL FAIL. Considering that all they release now is hermie seeds. point set match.
Their are many reasons to dog Arjan. I mainly look at it through a breeding POV because when I think of genetics, thats the first thing I think of. Arjan is NOT a breeder. He is a conman selling bunk to the masses of kids that can't get dank weed where they live. He wants to end gene pools and hold complete control over all of his so-called "creations" by not offering the male geno. Horrible breeding practices. Excellent money making practices. Ethics and money do not go hand in hand.
lozac123
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yep, ur another person thats gotten conned. a few years ago, franco wasnt with greenhouse seeds at all. the heads of greenhouse seeds were shantibaba and arjan.
shantibaba is the king of cannabis. he created white widow, and most of the other legendary greenhouse seeds strains. arjan is just a salesman at the end of the day. apparently, when shantibaba sold his half of the company a few years back, arjan couldnt grow weed properly, he couldnt keep the plants alive properly. most of the strains greeenhouse have, arent the originals that were first created. if i find the post from shantibaba, il post the link.
shantibaba is the king of cannabis. he created white widow, and most of the other legendary greenhouse seeds strains. arjan is just a salesman at the end of the day. apparently, when shantibaba sold his half of the company a few years back, arjan couldnt grow weed properly, he couldnt keep the plants alive properly. most of the strains greeenhouse have, arent the originals that were first created. if i find the post from shantibaba, il post the link.
to serve man
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Nirvana is okay. They tend to blatanly rip-off other breeders though with knock off products. Not too cool of breeding practices. They have Ak48, Jock Horror, NY Power Deisel, ect. It seems they try to confuse with that name game. The only good breeders in amsterdam, imo, is DNA genetics. TH Seeds has some alright stuff too, but not as nice as some of the DNA gear (LA Confidential, Martian Mean Green). It's just that most of the dam's genetics are pretty stale and they don't have anything to work with DNA atleast have a lot of connections in Cali, so they can get decent cuts from there. I wonder if they ever wish they never left Cali for the dam, now that cali is defintally the pinnicle of cannabis breeding right now, and Amsterdam is a thing of the past. Stick with North American breeders, thats where its at. Elite genetics, Subcool, Outlaw Genetics, BC Bud Depot, Grindhouse Seeds, ect.
whiteberry
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dam and i thought that i was the only one who thinks greenhouse genetics sucks i just canot stand to grow a plant 4 90+ days just to find out its a hermi and only about a 6 potentcy if you grow any greenhouse strain and like it you do not no good bud or just dont care i have grown a fef strains from greenhouse and they all sucked
trapper
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every one has access to all the strains,money talks and bullshit walks.you think a guy opening up his pocket book couldnt buy the top cuttings any where.but i dont see any one spending years stableizeing anything.and a lot of clone onlys were from hermies,but it just seems in cali every one is crossing every thing with the name diesal,chemdawg and sour and OG.sure the clones are great or so im told,but those cuttings were from some unique phenoetype the other proginy never had,try getting it back and stableizeing it so all the seeds turn out to be top notch.and look at the prices people are chargeing for seeds with the names i mentioned in them,not the clone but from seed crosses.But it is still a hybrid of all the same old genetics just a differant name and a mix here and mix their.i have crossed 2 stableized strains and gotten 4 differant flavors in the proginy,so imagine unstableized.when i see young people get stuck in the i have to buy an OG or a chem or diesal or sour i see people missing out on a lot of great deals,or the urkle,a lot of BC strains have the urkle in it,most purps or purple indica as i call them have no vigour and yield low.and remember all the tameing of these wild plants were done by the old time breeders,now we all have plants that can flourish inside,breedings hard part was done 30 years ago,now we put pollen from one good plant to another and call it what we want,we can all breed great weed in our basements now.i am amazed at how great the plants i breed are and i know shit.i just put pollen from good plant to good plant.
SpruceZeus
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your credibility just went out the window with that one.
You can say they're your favorites, but by claiming they're the only good ones you make yourself look foolish and insulting alot of hard working people.
You guys are so full of hate, yet I'd wager the majority have never grown GH gear, you simply repeat what you hear and try to pass it off as your own opinion.
When you say that franco just came to greenhouse seeds a few years back, that doesnt make them, or him any less reputable. Fact is, businesses change staff all the time.
99.9% of the time it is the grower and not the seeds that make for a good crop.
EVERY breeder uses someone elses genes at some pont or another. I think greenhouse should be praised for at least buying plants from other breeders rather than just straight stealing them like most others do.
Not to mention that they actually take the time to stabilize plants before they release them, most of these american breeders are just pollen chuckers. I can get a cut of a good plant force some staminate growth, it takes actual skill and knowledge to isolate specific traits over multiple generations like the greenhouse do.
Long story short, we can measure dicks all day, noone is going to change their mind. (because you're all closed-minded and I'm right
)Heres a church plant from greenhouse, on one of my ebb and flow tables. Rest assured I have alot of strains to choose from, I wouldnt be growing it if it wasn't awesome weed.
Hempville
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your credibility just went out the window with that one.
You can say they're your favorites, but by claiming they're the only good ones you make yourself look foolish and insulting alot of hard working people.
You guys are so full of hate, yet I'd wager the majority have never grown GH gear, you simply repeat what you hear and try to pass it off as your own opinion.
When you say that franco just came to greenhouse seeds a few years back, that doesnt make them, or him any less reputable. Fact is, businesses change staff all the time.
99.9% of the time it is the grower and not the seeds that make for a good crop.
EVERY breeder uses someone elses genes at some pont or another. I think greenhouse should be praised for at least buying plants from other breeders rather than just straight stealing them like most others do.
Not to mention that they actually take the time to stabilize plants before they release them, most of these american breeders are just pollen chuckers. I can get a cut of a good plant force some staminate growth, it takes actual skill and knowledge to isolate specific traits over multiple generations like the greenhouse do.
Long story short, we can measure dicks all day, noone is going to change their mind. (because you're all closed-minded and I'm right
Heres a church plant from greenhouse, on one of my ebb and flow tables. Rest assured I have alot of strains to choose from, I wouldnt be growing it if it wasn't awesome weed.
YES BROTHER ! i dont grow but i do pick up fine quality herb to smoke. like you said, the genetics in that church are PRIME. had a few nuggies of this for a WHILE and it never let me down. excellent taste , very unique and true to its name. if you SCARED GO TO CHURCH!
dont hate on GHS thats SO weak.
weedsofdestiny
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Theres a lot of people who love greenhouse check out there thread over at icmag ... and youtube for greenhouse grows theres plenty of people ... I would say to everyone to buy some, grow them correctly, and make your own damn decision's with the final result.
Elite Genetics
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& if you smoked real killer dank b4 you'll be WAY disappointed with ANY purchase from GHS..NONE of their strains will get me medicated..not even the church
SpruceZeus
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Give me a fucking break.
I don't care if half this forum is up your ass, you sir, are full of it!
You've smoked every strain in their lineup i take it?
Didn't care for the super silver haze?
Not a fan of their trainwreck?
Hate on their business practices all you want, I understand they are your direct competition. But when you bring bullshit to the table you hurt your own credibility.
bicycle racer
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there trainwreck is not real trainwreck. not close.
Elite Genetics
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no i am not a fan of their fake trainwreck or fake cheese or fake chemdog(misplelled btw & disrespectful to the man chemdog),their SSH isnt as good as the original either..if i want real trainwreck i get the arcata cut or real UK cheese..i dont feel 5-7 potency weed anymore to much killer chron out there now
Hempville
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elite, you sir are a hack. i accuse you of partisan hackery. i doubt their strains are what they say they are. especially because they like to claim reputable breeders are fakes to make money. BOYCOTT ELITE GENETICS PPL.
Hempville
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and to add to my point. PPL HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE BUD??? ANYBODY GROWN THIS GUYS GEAR AND FOUND IT TO BE DANK? HE JUST CAME ON THE SCENE WITH HIS HACKERY AND SLANDER TOWARDS REPUTABLE BREEDERS WHO WE KNOW AND TRUST TO BE LEGIT> NOW SUCK ME OFF ELITE PEACE AND LOVE
Elite Genetics
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we all saw the sativa bubba kush pix that were clearly not bubba kush..i dont need to sample every strain on their list i have seen the fake pix that look nothing like the real clone that ive grown..they could have at least got the nor cali pine trainwreck to make their trainwreck but they couldnt even get that so they made a fake trainwreck..we all know that their uk cheese is really some supossed cheese cross from blue cheese from seed..also saw them post pix of flying dutchman thai tantic & they later chnge the name of it & said it was their creation..they are liars & con artists period..of course their prices are good im sure they already fell bad enough selling fake genetics..how bad would they feel if they charged what real trainwreck,uk cheese,chemdawg,og kush,sour diesel seeds cost?? i would think pretty bad
Elite Genetics
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lol ..kids what are you gonna do? weve been in business since 1996 dumbass go smoke your hemp,lmfao