Why do so many ppl dog Arjan?
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Raef
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if you smoked it you'd know the difference..for example white widow is shit compared to what i grow..honestly
what shit you talkin about exactly ww is one of the best i have ever smoked i would love to grow something better than that if i knew for certain what it is
trapper
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Elite it doesnt matter man,i said what i wanted to say,if im content with what im smokeing, thats all that matters,i dont know if their chem,diesal or Og,i just know their kickass,i may have worked in bush camps across the tundra,lived in dog houses pulled through the bush,i may have lived on traplines for months every winter,but i can tell you i have been more places then most of my fellow bush wackers,and ive been to california more then once,mexico many times europe,and every were in between,so for you to assume from were im at we got no smoke,well what am i to say to that.that just blows me away,i had better pot from exotic places before you even touched a spliff.but for some reason you think i smoke 6/7 weed.why is that buddy,and if you think 2002 was the birth of super pot,you should of been in south america in early 80,s,you might have a differant and educated opinion.like i said we used to get weed sent from africa in the 70,s that put this stuff to shame.it made you a space ship super star.but the fact remains their are a lot of great genetics,a lot,and by the way i have never grown white widow.so why you say i have.my buddy grew it 10 years ago and it was a fine hybrid,it was top notch.but it was before the invention of great weed 2002.do not call me a hater because i say that the world is bigger then elite genetics,or as some guy was makeing reference to asses or some shit like that.and elite if you think im sitting here hopeing you fail your wrong,just lay off yhe hype a touch.and dont over load this forum,thats just my take man.by the way is subcools JC a 6/7 because i have that.
trapper
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whats your facination with butts man,what kind of shit is that,butthurt,grow up man.that makes you sound 12 years old.
Its true if you look at how they handle the plants in their youtube videos and what they say about the plants they are kind of goofy guys who don't speak english as their first language, but they have some great seeds and they have some bad ones. admit Arjan's haze is not something I wanna buy, but had to get the trainwreck.
bicycle racer
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doesn't greenhouse charge like $240 for there fake bubba kush and og kush. the way i see it if they will lie about some strains lineage i see no reason to trust them in general.
pinkus
New Member
I wanna get some elite beans for sure. But Elite, you're in tha same position Paul McCartney was in...everybody near you either thinks you're god and tell you so or thinks you're shit and walk away (or argue). You live where you live and can only compare it to what you have. Is your stuff GREAT, yes. does that mean there aren't others that are as good, maybe even better, no. Y slam white widow if your stuff is untouchable? Yes GHS and others produce some crap. I'll def buy yours before greenhouse.
Come on, Cali has ALL the hype right now. You are benefiting greatly from this. You were in the right place at the right time WITH THE RIGHT SKILLS. you yourself don't have genes in the plants~they came from somewhere else
I DO want your gear ~ U are close too be objective and you have a vested interest. Again Props for your gear cuz it is bomb.
Come on, Cali has ALL the hype right now. You are benefiting greatly from this. You were in the right place at the right time WITH THE RIGHT SKILLS. you yourself don't have genes in the plants~they came from somewhere else
I DO want your gear ~ U are close too be objective and you have a vested interest. Again Props for your gear cuz it is bomb.
bicycle racer
Well-Known Member
in truth cali is doing more collective breeding than any other place in the world currently so it makes sense some good strains will come of it which they have. its only logical this would be the case with the med scene having been around for over 10 years now. its not just elite there are other socal breeders the point is your better off with these newer locally based breeders. you will get the newest best strains that are available and all the older holland based stuff is here to.
pinkus
New Member
sorry BR newest does not equal best. again, I respect your position. you have no way of knowing what it is like to live in another place at the same time~just not possible. Yes the genetic diversity is great there. But did you notice that EVERYTHING is being crossed with OG KUSH. It will be as special as White Widow (i.e. generic) if it is in everything. I'm old, so i've seen columbian supplant Mex, I've seen skunk supplant columbian, I've seen NL overtake skunk, whitewidow overtake nl....blah blah blah, enjoy riding the crest of the wave. Wish I had access to the stuff you do but in truth I do. Internet is a great equalizer~sure I have to do more work to get the goods (i.e. grow it out and find the keepers). peace bro
I'll end up somewhere it's decrim someday i'm sure~could be cali, could be spain~Not fucking holland!I like my weed dank, but not my climate
indianaman
New Member
i picked up SLH fem and AI fem 5 each for 73 dollars...
from the attitude which charges a little more.
Mysticlown150
Well-Known Member
hahahaha that made me laugh
steve1978
Well-Known Member
jesus if i want to buy seeds i'll go and buy them on my own initative. by the way i've seen arjan on you tube i've seen his website and documentarys and i've never seen him say a hatefull word about elite genetics or any other breeders. if you want to tell me how good your weed is great. but dont do it by saying how bad everything else is. i dont need you and your bum bandit (i'm guessing you and the bicicle racer are lovers) to tell me how bad what i'm smoking is. trust me all of us know when were stoned! idiot. 
to serve man
Active Member
Have you ever been to the Cannabis Cup? You'll get to hear Arjan bashing every other breeder in Amsterdam, right at his own booth! You'll also get to see him wear the most ridiculous cape & crown to look like a "king", as well, with half-naked dutch girls literally SHOVING their weed in your face. They are probably the most aggressive table at the entire Cannabis Cup, when it comes to getting their product out. Next, get Franco alone away from Arjan and have him tell you what he REALLY thinks of him on a bad day.
You may not agree with what Elite does on the forums, but get some of his gear, grow it, smoke it, and THEN come back and tell us how much better Arjan's is. Elite will win hands down, every time. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him bashing other people, but I am saying that his weed is sick and potent as hell.
Next, do some research on BREEDING and then come back and tell me that Arjan is a true breeder. Arjan can't grow a plant to save his life, just ask shabita hata (or whatever the old owner of GHS name is). When hes selling a genetic called Trainwreck that doesn't even come from the original trainwreck arcata cut, but yet still continues to name it after a "legend" strain? Give me break. Its con-artistry. Same with his bubba kush which is obviously from sativa lineage and doesn't have an ounce of true pre98 bubba kush in it, yet he still continues to sell it as Bubba Kush to confuse and make people believe that its the "real deal" bubba kush. The list goes on & on with his "name games". Chemdog (which isn't even spelled right, which I think is another attempt to confuse). He isn't even a "pollen chucker", hes a rich cocksucker that doesn't even have a love for the business that he's in (breeding), just a love for business.
indianaman
New Member
i wish i had a cape, crown, and a harem of dutch stoner women force feeding me cannabis, that's good marketing.
pinkus
New Member
i don't know about good marketing, but it sure as hell sounds like the good life!
they need a little "rim-shot" icon
indianaman
New Member
i would pay to work at one of those cafes cleaning up human shit and crusty brownie off baking trays. kiss-ass
europe is so much cooler than us. in amsterdam they give you free heroin so you don't rob people for it.
europe is so much cooler than us. in amsterdam they give you free heroin so you don't rob people for it.
Cyproz
Well-Known Member
LOL europe wouldnt be europe without the USA. it would be Hitlerland yeaaaa super fun. have fun killing jews and smoking your heroin.
SpruceZeus
Well-Known Member
He's probably a huge dick. But that isn't the point.
Not at all.
Why would I wish to support someone whos practices i disagree with?
While I'm sure that this is true, I'm not stupid enough to believe that its any better than you can get anywhere else.
Oh, the humanity!
Done,
ARJAN IS A TRUE BREEDER!!!
Question his practices if you like, but you can't in good concience tell me that he hasn't done amazing things for the growing community. Especially when your compairison is Elite.
Arjan is not only taking the time to search out rare landrace genetics, he is then stabilizing them for years before releasing the seeds commercially. And when he does, they're dried for you too.
All your boy elite does is chuck pollen in a basement somewhere and cashes your cheques. $85 for 4 wet, untested seeds.
4 regular seeds?
You'll be lucky to get a single plant worth keeping in the bunch.
The truth will set you free. califonia isn't the center of the universe. $21 per regular seed is robbery, the smoke reports on elites website are all written by him, and arjan is a huge fucking dick, who breeds top quality cannabis.
deal with it.