Why is there 5 "cal-mag" threads for every 1 nitrogen thread?

Budddha said:
Lol; at first glance i thought u told him to use h2so4... k2so4 is much different.
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lol, yep, throw some acid on it, that'll make em killer!!! :p

Uberknot said:
Yeah, you need to know the ppm and the actual % and Math. It's easier than most would have people believe. :)

Researching any chemical you intend to mess with is always a good idea as well.
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more than that, you need to add a bonding agent/base as well. it's not just math, it's chemistry, as @cannabineer could tell you. i'm not a chemist, he is...
 
Budddha said:
Lol; at first glance i thought u told him to use h2so4... k2so4 is much different.
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cat of curiosity said:
lol, yep, throw some acid on it, that'll make em killer!!! :p


more than that, you need to add a bonding agent/base as well. it's not just math, it's chemistry, as @cannabineer could tell you. i'm not a chemist, he is...
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For sure there is the chemistry part......that's the tricky one.
 
I'll be damned if I am going to pay all the extra money for bottled up goop.....I already bought Cal/Mag......because I went 50% Coco.....bad bad bad....
weedemart said:
best mix with gh flora series ,IMO, is the ''general mix'' from start to finish
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Uberknot said:
Maybe Monopotassium Phosphate and Calcium Nitrate and some Magnesium sulfate.

Always fun playing with chemicals! :D
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This won't work. You risk calcium/magnesium phosphate precipitates. this, the holy grail, a one-component nute mix or solution.
One thing new nute mixers often underestimate is how much Ca and S are needed in a well-made nutrient solution.

i used five feedstocks:
calcuim nitrate
calcium sulfate
potassium nitrate
monopotassium phosphate
magnesium sulfate
and acidic and alkaline micro concentrates.

i wonder what contortions the two-bottle nute companies have to go through to make stable solutions of their concentrated nutes. they don't always get it right. Dyna Gro Bloom has a serious precipitation problem, and once the crap comes out it is useless to animal or plant.
 
cannabineer said:
This won't work. You risk calcium/magnesium phosphate precipitates. this, the holy grail, a one-component nute mix or solution.
One thing new nute mixers often underestimate is how much Ca and S are needed in a well-made nutrient solution.

i used five feedstocks:
calcuim nitrate
calcium sulfate
potassium nitrate
monopotassium phosphate
magnesium sulfate
and acidic and alkaline micro concentrates.

i wonder what contortions the two-bottle nute companies have to go through to make stable solutions of their concentrated nutes. they don't always get it right. Dyna Gro Bloom has a serious precipitation problem, and once the crap comes out it is useless to animal or plant.
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So it's going to precipitate in water or soil? after it's mixed by itself?

So I mix one feed it wait a bit mix the other feed it.....then what happens?

I found some nice info and charts regarding mixing things btw...

None of these would be mixed into a concentrate or together dry.

Mostly they would be used as mild solution supplements for the Jack's Fertilizers I already have.

I already have a few formula's for mixing up a complete fertilizer with all separate salts.

Anyhow like I said always research any chemical you plan on using before using it.

Check this out. :P

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cat of curiosity said:
too high in phosphorous, better to add potassium sulphate (0-0-50, so make a gallon, then supplement nutrients like any other booster).

K2SO4, super phosphates can cause the lockouts that raise ph and make it necessary to add cal/mag.
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Yes that is one more I need to get Potassium Sulfate
 
Uberknot said:
So it's going to precipitate in water or soil? after it's mixed by itself?

So I mix one feed it wait a bit mix the other feed it.....then what happens?

I found some nice info and charts regarding mixing things btw...

None of these would be mixed into a concentrate or together dry.

Mostly they would be used as mild solution supplements for the Jack's Fertilizers I already have.

I already have a few formula's for mixing up a complete fertilizer with all separate salts.

Anyhow like I said always research any chemical you plan on using before using it.

Check this out. :P

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Nice chart! It won't tell you what is compatible with what else at higher concentrations. Also beware; the ratios will be different for anhydrous v. hydrated salts. check the content of each salt by the formula on the bottle or bag.
 
cannabineer said:
Nice chart! It won't tell you what is compatible with what else at higher concentrations. Also beware; the ratios will be different for anhydrous v. hydrated salts. check the content of each salt by the formula on the bottle or bag.
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Yup have to know the exact ratio in each bag...lots of stuff to pay attention too there.

They have guidelines as well for mixing chemical at higher concentrations and I checked out some of that as well several places.

Like I said have to read and learn and understand what you are messing with before hand.

It's all fun stuff for me and not as complicated as one would think if you have the mindset.
 
Uberknot said:
Yup have to know the exact ratio in each bag...lots of stuff to pay attention too there.

They have guidelines as well for mixing chemical at higher concentrations and I checked out some of that as well several places.

Like I said have to read and learn and understand what you are messing with before hand.

It's all fun stuff for me and not as complicated as one would think if you have the mindset.
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I have much enjoyed formulating and using custom nutrients. The plants voted yes.
 
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