Will these clones take?

Billy the Mountain · Apr 14, 2022

You can clone successfully in nothing more than a glass of water

The luddite approach:

Tap water, no growth hormone, spindly lower cuts

These were an afterthought while germinating some pepper seeds

Took a week longer than when I give a shit, but all sprouted roots without any attention

The solo cup has some vermiculite, the shot glass a few chunks of perlite to keep them from falling over

FlowerPower88 · Apr 14, 2022

Idk, I have my mother plant if they die then they die, in 2 weeks I can take more. I am just really hoping these ones take root, cause it has seemed like forever since I first got my clone and then it got shocked transplanting, and it took a good 6 weeks to get to this point…but I’m the end it’s only time I can restart if need be

Wastei · Apr 14, 2022

Johiem said:
Yep(IME), it has aceytlsalycilic acid (that may be misspelled) derived from willow bark. Aside from a natural plant growth hormone it has the same effect in plants as it does in humans/ mammals. It thins vascular fluids, for us it's blood, for plants it is sap. It seems to help a lot especially prior to root formation. I haven't noticed much of a difference in my more established plants.

I've only recently started using it so it could be beginner's luck but there has been a lot of research done on it on the AG side of growing and logic says it should help here as well.

Salicylic acid is not derived from white willow bark it's manufactured synthetically via the Kolbe-Schmitt process. White willow is not even the plant where it was first discovered, rather from the flower Meadowsweet where it was first derived from.

Johiem · Apr 14, 2022

Still has the salicylic acid I'm after.

lusidghost · Apr 14, 2022

FlowerPower88 said:
I knew I was doing it right, I should have never second guessed myself . But I had to go to work after I took them, and the whole time I thought the water from the sprayers will wash the rooting hormone off the stems and I will come home and they will be dead, and I can’t do anything to fix it now…so then 6 hours later I couldn’t wait, I rushed to go get a little more gel onto them and put them in plugs to save them…oh well, next time I will stick to my guns and be more decisive.

They'll be fine, dude. You're overthinking it all.

FlowerPower88 · Apr 14, 2022

I know…it’s just the build up you know, it’s like getting laid the first time…you just want everything to go right, and you fuck it all up, but it works out sort of lol

lusidghost · Apr 14, 2022

Billy the Mountain said:
You can clone successfully in nothing more than a glass of water

The luddite approach:

Tap water, no growth hormone, spindly lower cuts

These were an afterthought while germinating some pepper seeds

Took a week longer than when I give a shit, but all sprouted roots without any attention

The solo cup has some vermiculite, the shot glass a few chunks of perlite to keep them from falling over

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I've never used rooting hormones. Just tap water, Root Riot plugs and a dome until they root. When I'm cloning for mothers I don't care how long they take, I'm just trying to preserve the genetics. When I'm running clones to flower I just take a bunch of extra cuts and keep the first to root.

jondamon · Apr 15, 2022

These are being rooted for a third time now.

cut before heading into flower with the larger plants.

rooted in coco by just cutting and planting.

then once rooted cut and replanted into root riots and I’ve just done it again last night.

nothing special just Pre Soak the riot cubes in 0.6EC nutes and plant right in.

this way I get more time before they need stronger lighting and it fits into my schedule better to rinse and repeat for next run as I’m only day 37 of 12/12 with the flowering Room and it could go as long as 100 days.

Using 24wT5HO for me is better than using 200w CFL lol. Less money on Kwh lol.

FlowerPower88 · Apr 15, 2022

Update, I think they will be ok, they have all perked right up today…thank you all for being patient with me and for the instruction.

FlowerPower88 · Apr 17, 2022

So the power to my cloner buckets pump went out, it was off for 2-3 hours before I realized it and could fix the issue. The clones wilted a little bit they still look aliveish. All other environmental factors stayed in check…do they look like they will make it possibly? They have looked good thus far, they just started to look tired and I checked and it wasn’t running.

DrOgkush · Apr 17, 2022

I just stab em in rockwool and slowly work the water out the cube with ventilation as days go by. I always have roots by day 10. And since it’s rockwool. You can decide what medium you want to use weather it be soil coco or remain in some sort of water culture.

FlowerPower88 · Apr 17, 2022

DrOgkush said:
I just stab em in rockwool and slowly work the water out the cube with ventilation as days go by. I always have roots by day 10. And since it’s rockwool. You can decide what medium you want to use weather it be soil coco or remain in some sort of water culture.

this is my first grow in a longtime and my first indoor grow ever, so while I did put tons of effort into researching, there have been oversights…originally up until yesterday I planned on doing a 4 site DWC, thank god I stumbled across some poor bastard who lost everything cause he didn’t account for reservoir temp when the season changed. I realized that I like him, can’t and shouldn’t afford 4 separate chillers, I don’t want to convert to RDWC, and I’d still need to spend more than I want to on a chiller anyway. So I’m pivoting to coco in 5 gallon pots I think, researching that now. Any tips on how to take aeroponic clones into a 70/30 coco mix? And also how much of that mix will I need for 4 5 gallon pots?

Billy the Mountain · Apr 17, 2022

FlowerPower88 said:
.... And also how much of that mix will I need for 4 5 gallon pots?

4 x 5 = 20

Unless you have a compelling reason to use a 5 gal pot, consider a 2 or 3 gal pot using coco

FlowerPower88 · Apr 17, 2022

Billy the Mountain said:
4 x 5 = 20

Unless you have a compelling reason to use a 5 gal pot, consider a 2 or 3 gal pot using coco

FlowerPower88 · Apr 17, 2022

Well yeah but I didn’t know if the 50L bag of semi compressed I’m assuming dry coco isn’t going to expand or anything…idk , Im not claiming brilliance only pleading ignorance.

man yeah I heard that less is more with coco, but seeing what some people use for soil beds indoors, and my only experience being outdoors I assumed 5 gallons wasnt much.

FlowerPower88 · Apr 17, 2022

And for some reason my photo of my clones post pump outage wouldn’t post above so here they are. Idk I think they are probably ok

Billy the Mountain · Apr 17, 2022

FlowerPower88 said:
Well yeah but I didn’t know if the 50L bag of semi compressed I’m assuming dry coco isn’t going to expand or anything…idk , Im not claiming brilliance only pleading ignorance.

man yeah I heard that less is more with coco, but seeing what some people use for soil beds indoors, and my only experience being outdoors I assumed 5 gallons wasnt much.

50l is ~ 13gal, I've never heard of semi-compressed coco, only bricks which expand dramatically, or bags that don't.
5 gal is fine if that's what you got or you can only water once a day
Otherwise, it's just a waste a of coco

Southernontariogrower · Apr 17, 2022

I read every clone post because mine die regularily. Time to get some aspirin, my dad gave our houseplants asprin and tea and they loved it.

FlowerPower88 · Apr 17, 2022

Southernontariogrower said:
I read every clone post because mine die regularily. Time to get some aspirin, my dad gave our houseplants asprin and tea and they loved it.

Do they look like they are on the decline like that?

FlowerPower88 · Apr 17, 2022

Billy the Mountain said:
50l is ~ 13gal, I've never heard of semi-compressed coco, only bricks which expand dramatically, or bags that don't.
5 gal is fine if that's what you got or you can only water once a day
Otherwise, it's just a waste a of coco

Ok sweet, I’ll probably go with 3 gallon fabric pots maybe? Or would you go plastic pots?

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