Will You Take The Vaccine?

HaroldRocks said:

Why I Won't Take the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine — a Scientist’s Perspective

Ken Biegeleisen, M.D., Ph.D., explains why he believes Johnson & Johnson cannot guarantee its COVID vaccine won’t alter your genetic code.

childrenshealthdefense.org

this is my personal message to you, personally - i dont care what anybody else thinks....give it a read - its a good one no matter what you want to believe one way or the other - he even mentions the Novavax shot being possibly safer, but not available

"There is a corona vaccine, Novavax, which contains no genetic material at all (i.e., no DNA or RNA), but rather consists solely of the corona spike protein. Of all the available vaccines, this is the one least likely to cause human genetic harm. But almost no one gets it, because it’s not available in most countries. Why not?"

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HaroldRocks said:

J&J knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder

Johnson & Johnson says its Baby Powder is safe. But Reuters found its talc was sometimes tainted with asbestos, a fact it kept from regulators and the public.

www.reuters.com

the same company who refused to admit that it's talc causes cancer, is the same company you might trust for a shot

ok then - have at it - it's all you

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Yeah it is an interesting thought.

Unfortunately, if we dismissed every business for doing something shitty, we'd have no place left to buy anything.

You got teflon pans in your house. Not a fan of long chain polymers are ya?

Well I know it's just Wiki, but it's also a person's opinion, so really just as valid as that article...

Children's Health Defense is an American 501c3 nonprofit advocacy organization,[1] known for its anti-vaccine activism. Much of the material put forth by the organization involves misinformation on vaccines and anti-vaccine propaganda.[2] It was founded and is chaired by Robert F. Kennedy Jr

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Tuesday that he will head up a panel on vaccine safety for Donald Trump.

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Robert Francis Kennedy Jr. (born January 17, 1954) is an American anti-vaccine advocate, conspiracy theorist, author, and environmental lawyer.

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Neither Trump nor Kennedy are immunologists, as far as I know.

That article seems like a bad source to me.

rollitup said:

It's because people who have a 2-digit IQ will ask about it.

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right right right

don't question anything

just listen to what everybody else says without researching and making your own decision

i got ya

mooray said:

Yeah it is an interesting thought.

Unfortunately, if we dismissed every business for doing something shitty, we'd have no place left to buy anything.

You got teflon pans in your house. Not a fan of long chain polymers are ya?

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well yea maybe

but i also have the right to decide for myself whether to buy that teflon pan or not - im all about iron skillets - i like the way they cook - so i bought and use those - and it was my own decision based on my own preference

They also demonized the adenovirus, but here's something else that's not from an anti-vaxxer...

(adenovirus)A member of a family of viruses that can cause infections in the respiratory tract, eye, and gastrointestinal tract. Forms of adenoviruses that do not cause disease are used in gene therapy. They carry genes that may fix defects in cells or kill cancer cells.

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HaroldRocks said:

well yea maybe

but i also have the right to decide for myself whether to buy that teflon pan or not - im all about iron skillets - i like the way they cook - so i bought and use those - and it was my own decision based on my own preference

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See, you default back to rights because that's a strong defense, one that nobody here can argue.

I'd love to see another type of support that you can stick behind just as firmly.

HaroldRocks said:

right right right

don't question anything

just listen to what everybody else says without researching and making your own decision

i got ya

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Please express your scientific/medical expertise on making these decision that impact us all?

mooray said:

Well I know it's just Wiki, but it's also a person's opinion, so really just as valid as that article...

Children's Health Defense - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

How Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Distorted Vaccine Science

His anti-vaccine credentials date back to 2005

www.scientificamerican.com

Neither Trump nor Kennedy are immunologists, as far as I know.

That article seems like a bad source to me.

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yea but RFK didn't write it or speak in it

so who cares about him

although i do like him...he's a democrat ya know - funny how you guys call all "anti-vaxxers" "Trumpy republicans" when it's just simply not true

some ppl get to stereo-type when it works for them but lash out against others who stereo-type

its ironic

Herb & Suds said:

Please express your scientific/medical expertise on making these decision that impact us all?

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im not an expert - im just laying low until i see more evidence of safety - and with that, comes time....time will tell

Meth rat has a feeling about all this covid stuff, it's a bad feeling.

HaroldRocks said:

Chinese researchers...i wonder if it was the same researchers from the Wuhan Lab...or maybe the same researchers who developed their own warp speed ineffective vaccine

ya know eating fish and meat can cause cancer....so can breathing the air....it can kill millions in the future too....maybe... eventually

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Remember the other post I did about covid longhaulers? How they said that we should not be surprised by people having long term health problems because, the other previous covid viruses caused long term problems? And you would think the Chinese would want to pretend the virus is less harmful, not that it can be a ticking time bomb?

Actually you do not need to wonder about the researchers, their names are in the paper. I looked up the Wuhan Bat Lady, the lab, the funding they received in conjunction with US labs working on the same viruses. It is not a hard thing to do, just takes time and practice. But you do not care to know any facts other than the ones that justify your beliefs. And you wish to believe the vaccine that researchers in the west are more dangerous than the virus engineered in the Wuhan Lab?

So much for critical thinking.

HaroldRocks said:

yea but RFK didn't write it or speak in it

so who cares about him

although i do like him...he's a democrat ya know - funny how you guys call all "anti-vaxxers" "Trumpy republicans" when it's just simply not true

some ppl get to stereo-type when it works for them but lash out against others who stereo-type

its ironic

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Look the GQP has been hiding forever under the guise of "the American People "
So who really is stereotyping here ?
The right has lost it's mind and intend to use violence to get their way
Lump them all in the deplorable bucket

HaroldRocks said:

im not an expert - im just laying low until i see more evidence of safety - and with that, comes time....time will tell

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Give society 30 years to find out? Or three generations, four?

HaroldRocks said:

yea but RFK didn't write it or speak in it

so who cares about him

although i do like him...he's a democrat ya know - funny how you guys call all "anti-vaxxers" "Trumpy republicans" when it's just simply not true

some ppl get to stereo-type when it works for them but lash out against others who stereo-type

its ironic

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I wouldn't dismiss his influence on the Children's Health Defense so quickly. It's not like you find a bunch of pro-hippie stuff on Fox, nor a bunch of pro-redneck stuff on CNN.

He is the chairman of Children's Health Defense, an anti-vaccine advocacy group. (he's also the founder)

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i notice we're getting more NO votes while the YES is stagnant since i last mentioned the voting count from the poll

so 34.8% of voters are out of their minds according to most of you who want to argue with me about it

ok then

printer said:

Give society 30 years to find out? Or three generations, four?

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yea let's exaggerate a little more here

see - that's why i shouldn't even bother with you

but you'll chase me up and down this thread

keep chasing

and then choking

Maybe try buying some friends.

HaroldRocks said:

J&J knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder

Johnson & Johnson says its Baby Powder is safe. But Reuters found its talc was sometimes tainted with asbestos, a fact it kept from regulators and the public.

www.reuters.com

the same company who refused to admit that it's talc causes cancer, is the same company you might trust for a shot

ok then - have at it - it's all you

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As you said, everything, even air gives you cancer. So by your logic J&J is blameless.

You have a serious masturbation fetish going on, may be the cause of your lack of friends.

captainmorgan said:

You have a serious masturbation fetish going on, may be the cause of your lack of friends.

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