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WattSaver

WattSaver

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To change things up, here's an update on my grow.

Heat..... & Bugs...... I've been fighting spider mites for the last couple of wks, just can't seem to get over the hump.

Well out of 11 2L starts I'm down to 3, (S2, G4, & Big Island Thunder) There were 5 boys, 1 runt I just rid of very early, 1 miss cut when I went after a boy at the back of the screen (that pissed me off for a while) (I do have a clone of this one [S1]) and then the last cut was yesterday, when I pulled out the behind schedule sativa, I just couldn't wait until the end of oct for her.

The screen 2 days ago, the spindly girl center back is now gone. GR 003riu.jpgGR 006riu.jpg


The retired mom that was put outside is really enjoying the new environment, but it's still vegging,


Banished to the outdoors projects 007.jpg 24 days later GR 005riu.jpg
She needs to start soon, it's standard to have snow on the ground here by Halloween. I had been watering straight out of the hose to see how the hempy would do with hi tds (460) and ph around 7. It did well for the 1st couple of wks, then seemed to stop growth, I started to ph the tap water the last few waterings & she really perked up again.

This morning I did some chopping on the 2 Maui Wowie's (left side in photo above) they are ready for harvest but I've to give them another wk for the seeds of the cross to mature. But with SM's I wanted to get a few kolas off before the bugs got them. So I've still got the pollinated buds on the plant, I've never tried to chop and then continue growing. Anyone have any experience in this event??

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hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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WattSaver said:
To change things up, here's an update on my grow.

Heat..... & Bugs...... I've been fighting spider mites for the last couple of wks, just can't seem to get over the hump.

Well out of 11 2L starts I'm down to 3, (S2, G4, & Big Island Thunder) There were 5 boys, 1 runt I just rid of very early, 1 miss cut when I went after a boy at the back of the screen (that pissed me off for a while) (I do have a clone of this one [S1]) and then the last cut was yesterday, when I pulled out the behind schedule sativa, I just couldn't wait until the end of oct for her.

The screen 2 days ago, the spindly girl center back is now gone. View attachment 2291140View attachment 2291139


The retired mom that was put outside is really enjoying the new environment, but it's still vegging,


Banished to the outdoors View attachment 2291143 24 days later View attachment 2291142
She needs to start soon, it's standard to have snow on the ground here by Halloween. I had been watering straight out of the hose to see how the hempy would do with hi tds (460) and ph around 7. It did well for the 1st couple of wks, then seemed to stop growth, I started to ph the tap water the last few waterings & she really perked up again.

This morning I did some chopping on the 2 Maui Wowie's (left side in photo above) they are ready for harvest but I've to give them another wk for the seeds of the cross to mature. But with SM's I wanted to get a few kolas off before the bugs got them. So I've still got the pollinated buds on the plant, I've never tried to chop and then continue growing. Anyone have any experience in this event??

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Yes. The plant will not only survive but can often be regenerated into second growth vegetation. Read up on it. Leaves get weird the second time around but have done this in the desert SW where the Fall is long and mild.

http://www.weedguru.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26659
 
Moebius

Moebius

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WattSaver said:
To change things up, here's an update on my grow.

Heat..... & Bugs...... I've been fighting spider mites for the last couple of wks, just can't seem to get over the hump.
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You have to break the spidermites. They can be broken for good but takes a lot of effort.

I only got rid of mine by stopping growing for a week or two and cleaning everything completely.

Spidermites just take all the fun out of growing weed. Have you tried 'Mighty Wash'? I have a bottle but dont need it yet. ... I did have good results with neem but the only permanent solution is clear everything out.
 
Solemhypnotic

Solemhypnotic

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What do you think of using aquarium pebbles and hydroton in a hempy bucket? I ask 'cause I just happen to have extra of both and I seem to be fascinated with this concept.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Solemhypnotic said:
What do you think of using aquarium pebbles and hydroton in a hempy bucket? I ask 'cause I just happen to have extra of both and I seem to be fascinated with this concept.
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No 'wicking' action with either hydroton or pebbles. .... needs something to hold moisture.
 
WattSaver

WattSaver

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Moebius said:
It may be a possibility, I'll need to ponder upon it. ..... I love working with Hydroton, its a very user friendly medium.... In hempy buckets with vermiculite and aqua pebbles, i'm not sure.
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Hydroton does not wick so you have to water almost constantly till the roots hit, hydroton is good for capping the perlite, to stop light and minimize evaporation.

So pebbles and hydroton will work but it will take more maintenance to get it going.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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WattSaver said:
Don't plan on revegging, just hoping that the stress of hacking 1/2 the plant away won't stop the maturing process for the seeds.
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I would wait myself. The quality and increased yield of the top cola would not entice me to start hacking. I was simply saying they can reveg. I never count on anything anymore.
 
WattSaver

WattSaver

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The hacking is just to get the buds before the mites do. After I get my seeds, the seeded buds will end up in the hash pile.

Yea Moe the mites suck hind tit. I've had them several times the worst is always in the summer. I'm chopping everything down next weekend. I'm gonna empty the room and set off a bomb outside by the intake and run the ventilation till empty, then shut off fans, and let sit. Then I'll go in with the bucket of bleach.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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WattSaver said:
The hacking is just to get the buds before the mites do. After I get my seeds, the seeded buds will end up in the hash pile.

Yea Moe the mites suck hind tit. I've had them several times the worst is always in the summer. I'm chopping everything down next weekend. I'm gonna empty the room and set off a bomb outside by the intake and run the ventilation till empty, then shut off fans, and let sit. Then I'll go in with the bucket of bleach.
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Ahhh man, I feel for you. ..... Its the only way though.

neem, mighty wash, etc does work, but I think they only work as population control.

My Spidermites were brought in after I took some plants outside for some sun then brought them back indoors. I won't be doing that again. .... Now I dont even go into the grow room with shoes on.

I'm sure you'll do a good job.... LOL@ Suck hind tit.
 
Saul Good

Saul Good

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An excellent thread, Moebius! Thanks to all that have participated and given me another direction to consider with my next grow. I'll let you know which way I go and def get some pix up.
 
Solemhypnotic

Solemhypnotic

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Alright, so I was thinking about the using aquarium pebbles and hydroton idea, and I'm going to try it. I have some peat starter plugs I'm going to put in the bottles (Probably one or 2 per bottle) to help retain moister. I know I'm going to end up having to water more often, but given the supplies I have to work with it's the best I can do. Who knows? Maybe this will work. I figure since I'm experimenting, I'll vary the design a bit for each bottle, just to see if one thing I try works better than another.
 
Moebius

Moebius

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Solemhypnotic said:
Alright, so I was thinking about the using aquarium pebbles and hydroton idea, and I'm going to try it. I have some peat starter plugs I'm going to put in the bottles (Probably one or 2 per bottle) to help retain moister. I know I'm going to end up having to water more often, but given the supplies I have to work with it's the best I can do. Who knows? Maybe this will work. I figure since I'm experimenting, I'll vary the design a bit for each bottle, just to see if one thing I try works better than another.
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OK Cool.

The hydroton does retain some moisture, Ive never had an aquarium so I dont know but I imagine the pebbles to be as smooth as marble, presumably you want to use the pebbles are for aeration. ... I don't think they will be necessary and possibly counter-productive. I think their small size will displace the air in the bucket (the Archimedes principal) and the smooth surface will prevent the microscopic bubbles of air from clinging to the pebbles as they do with 'rough' grow mediums.

Also a rough medium like Hydroton is going to have a much higher surface:area ratio for the air and roots to cling too. In effect filling it with pebbles will reduce the 2L bottle to less than a 1L bottle.

On reflection, I don't think it will work. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't give it a try. I'm often wrong and enjoy being wrong 'almost' as much as being right. If it doesn't work, we should consider why not. If it does work, I'll be replicating your experiment.
 
WattSaver

WattSaver

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Solemhypnotic said:
Alright, so I was thinking about the using aquarium pebbles and hydroton idea, and I'm going to try it. I have some peat starter plugs I'm going to put in the bottles (Probably one or 2 per bottle) to help retain moister. I know I'm going to end up having to water more often, but given the supplies I have to work with it's the best I can do. Who knows? Maybe this will work. I figure since I'm experimenting, I'll vary the design a bit for each bottle, just to see if one thing I try works better than another.
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Well you're going to break 3 rules of hempy I have, 2 of which I've personally tried. And I will say it will work, (I would mix the hydroton with the pebbles to hopefully create a few voids for air). You will have to stay on top of keeping things moist till the roots hit the rez. I def would not use extra straight peat, IMO start seeds in something other than peat in a non wicking medium. rooter plugs, rockwoool or even soil in a small seedling pot if you have nothing else, soil is a much better medium than raw peat. I've never seen any soil-less grow where straight peat was used.

Bottom line your material choice will get you end product but with more maintenance. Next time use a wicking product and you'll see the benefits.

Best of Luck
 
Solemhypnotic

Solemhypnotic

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I would go by the book to make sure this is done right, but I'm really short on materials and funds :( The pebbles themselves hold a surprising amount of moister without the hydroton. I've had these pebbles in a bag with holes to dry out after i washed them, that was over 2 weeks ago and they are still wet. The peat plug is just an idea, I thought it might help retain water a bit. I'm going to germ my seeds, put them in 2'' rockwool cubes and let them start in a dome until I put them in the 2l bottles.

Should I use more hydroton than pebbles? I have a shit ton of aquarium pebbles, a few pounds of hydroton 6, 2'' rockwool cubes and about 20 of those peat pellet starter plugs.
 
WattSaver

WattSaver

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Solemhypnotic said:
Should I use more hydroton than pebbles? I have a shit ton of aquarium pebbles, a few pounds of hydroton 6, 2'' rockwool cubes and about 20 of those peat pellet starter plugs.
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Not sure on the proper ratio, you are breaking new ground. My best WAG (wild ass guess) would be 1/3 hydroton. And leave the peat plugs out.

Keep us posted
 
Solemhypnotic

Solemhypnotic

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WattSaver said:
Not sure on the proper ratio, you are breaking new ground. My best WAG (wild ass guess) would be 1/3 hydroton. And leave the peat plugs out.

Keep us posted
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Cool, thanks Watt. WAG it is lol. I'm going to do one with a peat plug at the center just to see what happens (curiosity always gets this cat).
 
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