WOS - Chronic Haze and SS - Power Africa ( Ebb & Flow )

Well I got the supplies for my first Ebb & Flow and hopefully my first finished grow.

Had bug problems with my soil setup. Been reading a lot of Al B Fuct's threads and I feel I've learned enough to start my own hydro.

I will be using a 3x3 tray hugger with a 40 gal botanicare res.

A two outlet air pump with two micro-pore XL (10") air stones and the water will be fed thru a 250GPH pump.

The seeds are from Attitude and they are mostly sativas, not the ideal type for a hydro, but I bought these planning on doing them in soil. I'll just flower them at about a foot.

Eventually i'm going to turn this into a duel tent ebb & flow and follow Al B Fuct's harvest every 2 weeks thread except make it harvest every month.

I'm in the process of trying to find a supply for 50% technical grade h2o2, my hydro store only sells 30% and will be using 1ml/L every 3-4 days.

Topping up everyday with plain water with Bi-weekly res dumps.

I will be using 6" net pots with hydroton around a 2x2 piece of rockwool.

Going to start off in rockwool soaked in SuperThrive until about a week once roots stick out the bottom. After that I will be feeding with phosphorus nutes only at around 400 PPM to aid root growth and then will be kicking it up to 1100 PPM after they've established a nice root system and I move them to the tray.

I heard from the guy at the hydro store hydroton has a strong 7.0 natural PH and he suggested I use a soiless medium like promix or grow rocks.

I've heard not so great things about grow rocks.

But If I go the hydroton/rockwool way I will be flooding every hour for 15 minutes. If grow rocks i'm going to have to flood more often. If soilless i'm flood only a few times a day.

I will be "flushing" 2 weeks before harvest.

Anything you can think of to add would be greatly appreciated as I'm a newbie. I read a lot when I can, so be as detailed as you want to be. I love learning.

Got my HI 9813-5 meter today and everything else a few days ago.

I will be using 40x40mm RW cubes with growrocks in 5" net pots suspended by the cover over the tray.

As far as my grow room I recently drywalled the ceiling and made an elbow penetration thru the ceiling for the ducts and another elbow to make it run parallel with the ceiling. Perfect to run a duct right down the middle of my room to exhaust my tent and eventually another tent and clonebox.

I will be making a lightproof curtain containing area about 3ftx1ft with a 400w MH for mothers once I get some of the seeds in and seeing which strain(s) I like the best.

Still cannot find 50% h2o2....At least I found a supply of overpriced 30% if I cannot find 50%.

I will be germing tonight and popping them in the RW asap and will be putting them under flouros.

Stay tuned for pictures in the upcoming days.

Beginning construction on my flood table cover.

I will be using 3/4" SCH 40 PVC pipe that I will cut in half the long way and use those as channels to hold the lids of my pots. I'm going to cover the top with a white tarp that will be folded in half to prevent any light hitting the roots.

I'm going to make a 6x6 grid to house 36 pots once I get a mother setup in a few months. But for now they'll house 4 power africa plants.

I keep going from feeling confident to overwhelmed. I blame the amount of varying information and opinions from place to place and person to person.

I just need to get my feet wet and get in there and try proven ways before I figure out what works best for me.

Seeds sprouted this morning. Pretty fast since I soaked them the night before and put them into paper towels yesterday morning. Already all 4 have germed.

Going to soak the cubes in some superthrive/5.5-5.8 pH water solution until their about 4 times their original weight and then im going to drop the seeds into them.

I still need to get some flouros. What K do they need to be?

Got 4 of the 4 seeds into rockwool cubes.

I PHed the water to 5.7 and soaked them about 5 times their original weight.

The tap water I have is 7.6 PH and 114 PPM after calibrating the meter.

I saw a calculation for nutrient add-backs for the lucas formula: ((target - current) / target) * 8 ml per gallon * res gallons = Flora Micro (ml) double this figure to get Flora Bloom (ml)

Is this AFTER you add back your regular PHed water to keep you at a full res level? Why else would the res gallons come into play and not the amount of you add back? I'm confused.

Or is the above saying add back regular phed water to your nutrient solution until you get to your res. cap and then test your PPM and plug that into the equation.

Oh and I bought some Reserva Privada OG Kush and some Barney's Farm Violator Kush both pure indicas so i'm excited. Those are probably what i'll SOG.

The flood table looks awesome all setup with my channels.

The 42" spans were originally making a sag but I put 3/4" tees and shaved off the top part to keep it flush with the "U" channels I made out of the pipe.

Cheap 12$ cover. Pictures will be posted later.

Added the tarp to the membrane of my cover with 36(4/sqft.) holes and another with 9(1/sqft.) holes. It looks pretty well put together and i'm always very critical of what I make as I always have crazy visions of the end result that can never mate with my hands-on abilities.

So far everything in the room is going great. Sealed up all the spaces in the room with caulking, only air entering right now is from under the door. Soon i'm going to modify the door so it's more like an exterior door and put a high-transparency T316 S/S 80 mesh intake attached to a transfer duct with a fan attached or pull enough negative on the exhaust end(which won't be too hard for a 550CFM fan).

Got some shelving put up to put all my assorted grow stuff on organized and a long 8' table that part of it will be the stand for my upcoming mother/veg area. The other part being used for when I take my tray out to do bi-weekly res changes.

I fed my babies some 400PPM solution(520PPM, but the water had 112[nice one poland springs, almost like tap]) of lucas forumla(without RO water) then PHed down to 5.6, actually I squeezed too hard on the dropper and brought it down to 3.9 4.0, I read that you weren't supposed to add PH up to an already nuted solution without first diluting the ph up. Not sure if this is true or not. I just PH upped it. We'll see if something bad happens.

Overall im pretty excited to be getting plants back under light after my move from the short lived soil grow I had going.

I feel like my progress at growing is chaotic and I cannot stick to one idea and im constantly expanding and thinking of better, more technical and efficient ways of growing when I haven't even got the basics down yet. Mainly due to reading too much. Time to get some buds

Res and inside res

New entry with new ceiling, bye-bye exposed ceiling. You'll see i caulked the edges of the room where the wood beam is, only spot where air is coming in is the door. Not for long though.

3 good plants at 1 week

Bad plant that wont produce new leaves other than the cotyledons and first set.

I didn't end up getting a picture of the other bad one I guess. I'll be back later with more updated 2 week old photos.

subd'. Love ebb n flo grows!

As promised.


Table with channels for net pots to sit in, cover is off cause I was testing the table

Group photo!

Ugly one, but new growth looks good. The drunk one in the group photo

The two big leafed tall ones in the group photo

Shorty that grows

Shorty that doesn't grow

Random picture


Today I noticed some what looked like to be salt deposits on the RW. I pray its not powdery mildew. I googled pictures and it was pretty much always on the leaves not on the RW. Looked more minerally than powedery. Like salt deposits.

Going to look into obtaining a programmable dehumidifier as well as a heater. The low last night was 67, with 55% RH. The high 81(was unseasonably hot today) and 63% RH

Someguy15 said:

subd'. Love ebb n flo grows!

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Good to have you aboard!

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firsttimeARE said:

As promised.

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Table with channels for net pots to sit in, cover is off cause I was testing the table
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Ugly one, but new growth looks good. The drunk one in the group photo
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Today I noticed some what looked like to be salt deposits on the RW. I pray its not powdery mildew. I googled pictures and it was pretty much always on the leaves not on the RW. Looked more minerally than powedery. Like salt deposits.

Going to look into obtaining a programmable dehumidifier as well as a heater. The low last night was 67, with 55% RH. The high 81(was unseasonably hot today) and 63% RH

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Dehumidifiers add heat as well. You maybe able to get by with just the Dehumidifier... but it creates some problems on hot days when you can't afford any extra heat and you need RH relief... then u gotta look to A/C.

I added some circulation fans(2 clips and one oscilating). Took my main exhaust off the timer today and put it back to 100% instead of 50%. Now it'll be going 24hrs again instead of only during lights on.

Fed 700ppm of nutes with 2ml of 30% h2o2 per quarter of a gallon....hope that doesn't kill em. But I hear its good to feed them once they get their 2nd set which they've had for a week already.

Before I made the room changes it was 73 degrees and 54%RH. A few hours later its now 70 degrees and 47%RH. Before I filled up the res and table it was 30-40%. The 30pint I was looking at by soleus is gravity drained and it says it only runs at 41 degrees so hopefully it adds some as its only going to get colder. We see like 0-35 degree winters. Right now its like 40-60 degrees were getting. But basements stay steady pretty much.

My mom light is coming Tuesday so hopefully that adds like 5 degrees. I could deal with 70 nights and 78 days. That's perfect really with like 35%RH. Some say that's low but id rather it low and save myself from bud rot and powedery mildew.

I will be getting an ac come summer and will hook my light exhaust back up. We see like 75-100 degree summers. I was thinking like a 7200btu.

The plant I put a splint on looks like he's holding up on his own now. Gonna leave the splint on for a few more days to be safe.

Thanks for hopping aboard horned.

Conditions have improved with the dehumidifier. Im running at 78F and 35-40% RH during lights on. Put my exhaust fan back on the timer to shut off during lights off, they don't need fresh co2 with lights out, i dont think anyways.

Got a door sweeper for the bottom and going to put some rubber strips on the bottom before the sweeper on the inside and got these rubber strips that will fit between the door and the jamb that will act as a shim.

Next is a dedicated 20amp being put in along with the 15amp in there. 35 total amps will be sufficient enough.

Mom light and panda film comes in tuesday so i'm going to start a mom box. Dunno if i'll do hydro for it or just some soil.

Soaked the growstones last night in 5.5 ph water.

Babies are ready to go into the table!

Cool, drop us some pics when they all get in their new homes!

Put them in their final home last night. Took pics tonight.

There was a big leaf growth spurt last night. The one that was broken put out roots it looks like over the portion that was broken. And i like a dumbass knocked it over because the growstones weren't even, so it rebroke it. Ugh. That plant is capital F fahqed. But I slid it down more into the RW, shes been thru hell, hopefully survives.

Room was 55% RH without dehumidifier going. 79F about 4 hours into lights on.

Now to the pics.

3 good ones, then the one thats growing now, and the broke one

This is my table without pot covers and with


Mold? Powdery Mildew? Nute salts? Too bad of a camera to tell? It was top fed about 400 ppm nutes with 2ml 30% h2o2 per liter. 5.8PH. About 20g worth of liquids prolly 10-15ml every day once a day.(Off and on plain 5.8ph and nute solution)

Noticing growth is faster now. Whats up with the new growth being lighter green? This normal?

Room temps when I left were 82F and 46%RH. Another unseasonably hot day outside.

Yeah, new growth being lighter green seems normal.

Thanks. The light green is getting darker. I'm noticing a lot of new growth on these plants. They're growing noticably each day. Still feeding around the rw. Been 4 days...I may start flooding the table today. The leaves look real healthy and the one that wouldn't grow has some new leaves now. They look all deformed and coming in oddly. The ugly plants leaves are so tiny in comparison to the other 4. It looks wicked unhealthy.

I'm going to start 2 power africa moms and 2 chronic haze moms under my 342w t5 so by the time this harvest is ready they're big and full and ready for cloning.

If I were to take big al b fuct sized clones would 4 moms be enough to get 35 cutsevery 2 months? I'm hoping there's enoigh regrowth in between grows.

Also should I get a small 2x4ft table for my moms or use soil? I hated the fungus gnats that came with soil. The mom box would have a screened passive intake and a screened 6inch exhaust. I just don't want soil problems coming over to my hydro. I'm quite pleased with not having bugs as a byproduct of growing like I did with my organic soil.