wtf is he talking about

mantle7717

mantle7717

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so my homie is trying to tell me that some sherbert im about to get isnt legit sherbert, i asked him wtf he was talking about, he said it was bag seed, i told him yes but it was fertilized by a sherbert male, he said the phenotype changed wtf does that mean, if a female sherbert was fertalized with a male sherbert wouldnt it produce sherbert
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
mantle7717 said:
its grown the flower looks and smokes like sherbert? im confused to why its not sherbert
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being that it's a clone only, at least i think so as i never heard of sherbet before, the chances are high that the plant it came from was either pollinated by another male in the room, which was not sherbert as there are no sherbert male plants if it's a clone only, of the plant it came from was a hermie, and pollinated itself, which would make the seed a herbet with strong hermie tendencies..
it'd be pretty impossible to know which scenario is the correct one though.
 
mantle7717

mantle7717

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racerboy71 said:
being that it's a clone only, at least i think so as i never heard of sherbet before, the chances are high that the plant it came from was either pollinated by another male in the room, which was not sherbert as there are no sherbert male plants if it's a clone only, of the plant it came from was a hermie, and pollinated itself, which would make the seed a herbet with strong hermie tendencies..
it'd be pretty impossible to know which scenario is the correct one though.
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it was controlled, the strain fertilized a female from the same strain, would it still be the same strain
 
mudminer

mudminer

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i think its mexi bagseed that got dropped in a bowl of lime sherbet during a stoned munchie session. they got rinsed off n dried well. voi la. sherbert seeds. good luck. hope you get a pineapple pheno. mmmmmmm
 
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jb5355

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mantle7717 said:
it was controlled, the strain fertilized a female from the same strain, would it still be the same strain
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even it was pollinated (not fertilized) by another sherbert it wouldnt be the same. it would be sherbert x sherbert. which could be completely different than the mom.
 
Goldy

Goldy

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jb5355 said:
even it was pollinated (not fertilized) by another sherbert it wouldnt be the same. it would be sherbert x sherbert. which could be completely different than the mom.
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Um..the above statement by mantle was correct. 'Fertilizing' can however also refer to adding nutrients to media.
Your reason wasn't really explaining much.It "could be completely different"..but it could be extremely similar.
If I selfed an oldschool homozygous Durban Poison you'd not be able to tell the difference between the mum and the offspring.
Whether or not the offspring are the same or even similar depends on the zygosity of the genes.
Simplified, it means if all the genes code for the same phenotypes, the plants will come out very similar if not the same (think of oldschool IBLs etc. all seeds look like clones they are so similar). But if the elite selfed parent is a random polyhybrid bagseeds that is extremely heterozygous then the chances of selfing it and getting anything like the parent is extremely small. That's the main issue with a lot of the breeders now. They just grab some new 'elite' unstable cuts and self them. The offspring are all wildy different and are, at best, not the elite cut as advertised. Not necessarily bad, just not likely to be like the mother.
 
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jb5355

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True
Goldy said:
Um..the above statement by mantle was correct. 'Fertilizing' can however also refer to adding nutrients to media.
Your reason wasn't really explaining much.It "could be completely different"..but it could be extremely similar.
If I selfed an oldschool homozygous Durban Poison you'd not be able to tell the difference between the mum and the offspring.
Whether or not the offspring are the same or even similar depends on the zygosity of the genes.
Simplified, it means if all the genes code for the same phenotypes, the plants will come out very similar if not the same (think of oldschool IBLs etc. all seeds look like clones they are so similar). But if the elite selfed parent is a random polyhybrid bagseeds that is extremely heterozygous then the chances of selfing it and getting anything like the parent is extremely small. That's the main issue with a lot of the breeders now. They just grab some new 'elite' unstable cuts and self them. The offspring are all wildy different and are, at best, not the elite cut as advertised. Not necessarily bad, just not likely to be like the mother.
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Goldy said:
Um..the above statement by mantle was correct. 'Fertilizing' can however also refer to adding nutrients to media.
Your reason wasn't really explaining much.It "could be completely different"..but it could be extremely similar.
If I selfed an oldschool homozygous Durban Poison you'd not be able to tell the difference between the mum and the offspring.
Whether or not the offspring are the same or even similar depends on the zygosity of the genes.
Simplified, it means if all the genes code for the same phenotypes, the plants will come out very similar if not the same (think of oldschool IBLs etc. all seeds look like clones they are so similar). But if the elite selfed parent is a random polyhybrid bagseeds that is extremely heterozygous then the chances of selfing it and getting anything like the parent is extremely small. That's the main issue with a lot of the breeders now. They just grab some new 'elite' unstable cuts and self them. The offspring are all wildy different and are, at best, not the elite cut as advertised. Not necessarily bad, just not likely to be like the mother.
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Goldy said:
Um..the above statement by mantle was correct. 'Fertilizing' can however also refer to adding nutrients to media.
Your reason wasn't really explaining much.It "could be completely different"..but it could be extremely similar.
If I selfed an oldschool homozygous Durban Poison you'd not be able to tell the difference between the mum and the offspring.
Whether or not the offspring are the same or even similar depends on the zygosity of the genes.
Simplified, it means if all the genes code for the same phenotypes, the plants will come out very similar if not the same (think of oldschool IBLs etc. all seeds look like clones they are so similar). But if the elite selfed parent is a random polyhybrid bagseeds that is extremely heterozygous then the chances of selfing it and getting anything like the parent is extremely small. That's the main issue with a lot of the breeders now. They just grab some new 'elite' unstable cuts and self them. The offspring are all wildy different and are, at best, not the elite cut as advertised. Not necessarily bad, just not likely to be like the mother.
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He asked if was the same strain the answer is no. it doesnt matter how similar it is it is not the same strain.
 
mantle7717

mantle7717

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jb5355 said:
even it was pollinated (not fertilized) by another sherbert it wouldnt be the same. it would be sherbert x sherbert. which could be completely different than the mom.
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sorry man im not a grower just know some fools thanks for the help
 
mantle7717

mantle7717

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Goldy said:
Um..the above statement by mantle was correct. 'Fertilizing' can however also refer to adding nutrients to media.
Your reason wasn't really explaining much.It "could be completely different"..but it could be extremely similar.
If I selfed an oldschool homozygous Durban Poison you'd not be able to tell the difference between the mum and the offspring.
Whether or not the offspring are the same or even similar depends on the zygosity of the genes.
Simplified, it means if all the genes code for the same phenotypes, the plants will come out very similar if not the same (think of oldschool IBLs etc. all seeds look like clones they are so similar). But if the elite selfed parent is a random polyhybrid bagseeds that is extremely heterozygous then the chances of selfing it and getting anything like the parent is extremely small. That's the main issue with a lot of the breeders now. They just grab some new 'elite' unstable cuts and self them. The offspring are all wildy different and are, at best, not the elite cut as advertised. Not necessarily bad, just not likely to be like the mother.
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Goldy said:
no reason to be sorry:)all friends here. Whats the sherbert like mantle? all its cracked up to be?
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thank you for taking the time to explain, ignorance does not need be defused, one needs knowledge to treat the ignorance.
it came out alot like the mother plant, did a quick wash, it tastes like sherbert, higher yeild than i remember, i wanna call it sherbert but i guess its sherbert crossed sherbert
thanks for treating me like a person and giving me information i can use
 
Goldy

Goldy

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The idea of sherbert tasting bud is..well frikin awesome lol. Great it came out with the characteristics you were searching for - even better with increased yield!
Not a problem brother. We all start somewhere!
 
colonuggs

colonuggs

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I used to buy seeds, blueberry this... strawberry that....Its all good, all gets me stoned but never tasted like the name
 
Goldy

Goldy

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yea I'm yet to come across anything that really tastes like it says it will. Some have a kinda fruity smell. But never like strawberries or chocolate etc.
They way its grown can make the taste somewhat stronger too
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Goldy said:
yea I'm yet to come across anything that really tastes like it says it will. Some have a kinda fruity smell. But never like strawberries or chocolate etc.
They way its grown can make the taste somewhat stronger too
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blue dream most certainly tastes like blueberry ime..
c99 tastes like pineapples..
 
Goldy

Goldy

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racerboy71 said:
blue dream most certainly tastes like blueberry ime..
c99 tastes like pineapples..
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Its more than possible I've not tried the right phenos. Not by any means saying its not possible.. Just have yet to experience it. We used to have a very orangey smelling bud around locally but it had no flavour per say.
I'll add blue dream to the list. C99 BX is already on it. Who's the blue dream from? Or clone only?
 
mantle7717

mantle7717

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racerboy71 said:
i'm just a bit confused how you or your buddy got a male plant of a clone only? idk, maybe i'm missing something here..
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i never mentioned anything about a clone, the sherbert was grown from a seed, it came from a motherplant also grown from a seed, the dude kept a male from the same seeds and used it to make another batch of seeds, with the female plant, some other people started throwing the word clone around, its sherbertxsherbert
 
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