Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

DCcan

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Something to note for liquid BT products, liquid formulations break down in about a year, powders will keep their potentcy for 3-4 years.
It's also most effective at 1st and 2nd instar feedings, so when they are smaller. Don't wait till you see them in other words.
Re apply after rain and at least weekly, light breaks down the proteins.

Another thing you can do is alternate or mix BT products, much greater mortality rate than a single type since they have different proteins.
Several other promising new or mixed varieties of BT are coming down the pipe. Mostly to slow the growth of resistance that's beginning to show up for BT-k.
I have a preponderence of cabbage lopers, armyworms, and diamondback moths, so BT-a has been more effective at control.

Table 1. Cry toxin profile of Bacillus thuringiensis spray products (upper table) and susceptibility of Lepidoptera species to those Cry toxins (lower table).

 
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radicaldank42

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What about using sodium percarbonate? Make it a little stronger and wear gloves and spray at dusk but the super strong h2o2 will kill em or Evict them then die plus destroy the webs and eggs. And clean the leafs and plant.
 
I'm far north in Michigan and I've never had a problem with them one day is extremely hot the next day it's cold but if I ever run into that problem I'm interested to figure out how people get rid of them
 

radicaldank42

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I'm far north in Michigan and I've never had a problem with them one day is extremely hot the next day it's cold but if I ever run into that problem I'm interested to figure out how people get rid of them
In on the far north as well and once in a while I found some but I always tried to ill them asap
 

radicaldank42

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I'm far north in Michigan and I've never had a problem with them one day is extremely hot the next day it's cold but if I ever run into that problem I'm interested to figure out how people get rid of them
Do you usually. Kugel culture at all. For the grow you have? You should look up deep watering.
 

PioneerValleyOG

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Sprayed yesterday as well. Ha ent checked for brown pistils yet, but will look asap. I hope not. Surprised there's not more responses to this thread since we are smack in wormpillar season.
Q: I have a 5 gal pressure pump, in which I used 1 gal of bt mix=4t. Bt. I thought the wand was funky as it sprayed in two opposite directions. Then I realized that the wand was designed to reach into the plant and spray right and left. It was my first spray. I don't wanna say I soaked them, but I did be sure they had ample coverage.
 

burnpile

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Sprayed yesterday as well. Ha ent checked for brown pistils yet, but will look asap. I hope not. Surprised there's not more responses to this thread since we are smack in wormpillar season.
Q: I have a 5 gal pressure pump, in which I used 1 gal of bt mix=4t. Bt. I thought the wand was funky as it sprayed in two opposite directions. Then I realized that the wand was designed to reach into the plant and spray right and left. It was my first spray. I don't wanna say I soaked them, but I did be sure they had ample coverage.
I did soak them, also maybe had a heavier mix as I just poured some in without measuring.
 

PioneerValleyOG

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I did soak them, also maybe had a heavier mix as I just poured some in without measuring.
Oh. Yea, 4 teaspoons a gal isn't much. I went out n looked for brown pistils. Guess what I found instead? A freaking small green caterpillar, the inch worm type, that squinches up into a hump, then straightens out? Also, some kind of assassin bug with banded legs. Will try n post pics in a min.
Also found botrytis or however you spell it, just in one spot. When I went to snip it, the branch almost broke off. This made me wonder if there is other underlying issues.
Here's a site that shows rainfall in the past 48 hours or longer. Works to tell me how much rain fell when I was dead asleep. 10 miles west of here was .12 but we were double that. And Double that ten more miles east.

So I'm guessing yhe rain washed off my BT? How long before I should spray again? Should I right away? No signs of borers, that's good.
Last note, two of the plants that grew best, were in the half shade all day. I've heard tell that cannabis stops growing at 80°F. Which would explain my skinny ass plants this year.... That and I was not giving them the food I usually do. Now I'm back on track and it's September, I have one chance to get shit rolling down the right track, or it's gonna be a tough season, that may be only good for seeds. Too windy and too close to BT treatments to mess with pollinating today.
More later.
 

PioneerValleyOG

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I'm guessing we mostly deal with the cabbage looper, small green caterpillar, front and back feet, no middle, white stripe and the winter moth?
 

radicaldank42

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its a effective organic insecticide as long as its not mixed with a few ingredients. but it kills everything and keeps them safe for a hot second to by coating it in it as well
but thats a badside is it kills everytthing
 
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