Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

blower · Sep 8, 2011

Ok. Just feed to soil??

blower · Sep 9, 2011

Hey when a plant is indica and you want to harvest with full amber thc. When does one start to flush or cut?
The same question for sativa ??

veggiegardener · Sep 9, 2011

blower said:
Hey when a plant is indica and you want to harvest with full amber thc. When does one start to flush or cut?
The same question for sativa ??

Probably the wrong place for the question, but, the short answer is "Never." I usually leave a few buds on selected plants well into December. I don't think I've ever seen 100% amber. The most was about 50%.

Personally, I think going beyond 25% is counterproductive, regarding potency, as amber trichomes are a sign of THC oxidation.

If you prefer extremely sedative herb, you might consider picking strains for that quality. In my experience, Granddaddy Purple was the best for sleeping.

MediMaryUser · Sep 10, 2011

am i supposed to pick eggs off as while as spray? ive sprayed safer caterpilliar spray since before i even flowered and i haven beenspraying still and i have no caterpilliars but everyone else i know does and i see about a dozen eggs daily if i look closely maybe more and tweezer them out lol

veggiegardener · Sep 10, 2011

MediMaryUser said:
am i supposed to pick eggs off as while as spray? ive sprayed safer caterpilliar spray since before i even flowered and i haven beenspraying still and i have no caterpilliars but everyone else i know does and i see about a dozen eggs daily if i look closely maybe more and tweezer them out lol

Pick any eggs off when you trim.

You are spraying effectively.

You shouldn't see one live worm.

Good job!

(If you just can't stand it, remove the eggs. It shouldn't cause any harm. Truthfully I've never even looked for eggs, but I've been using Bt for nearly three decades.)

MediMaryUser · Sep 10, 2011

so i really dont need to worry about picking out the eggs cuz i was afraid they would start like breaking down and causing mold or bud rot the same as the caterpilliars shit does thats my question cuz they are hard to get out and ill leave em if i have to and when there on hairs it rips the hair off its almost impossible not to rip the hair off when tweezing a sticky egg of of it

veggiegardener · Sep 10, 2011

MediMaryUser said:
so i really dont need to worry about picking out the eggs cuz i was afraid they would start like breaking down and causing mold or bud rot the same as the caterpilliars shit does thats my question cuz they are hard to get out and ill leave em if i have to and when there on hairs it rips the hair off its almost impossible not to rip the hair off when tweezing a sticky egg of of it

I don't mind losing the pistils ASAP, because they contain no THC.

I had a strange Durban Poison suddenly drop ALL the pistils at once, about four weeks into flower. It produced no new flowers, but every calyx swelled to impressive size, covered with very large, very dense, trichomes. Excellent weed.

blower · Sep 11, 2011

Hey for any indoor or outdoor. So for a sativa strain does one flush by 50% cloudy tall trichomes?
For indica 50% amber??
I have sprayed BT INSECT SOAP
Outdoor plants some have red hairs 40%
others a lot of white pistils
So I hope that the spray kills these caterpillars green and brown pests.

veggiegardener · Sep 11, 2011

My best results come with all cloudy, with 0% to 25% amber, depending on strain.

blower · Sep 11, 2011

Hey y'all. I have outdoor bud damage from green and brown caterpillars
Last night we deep sprayed BT INSECT SOAP. Will go and buy neem oil. Any other tips??
How to clean their poop off bud?

trento · Sep 11, 2011

hi guys and gals.I am a certified organic grower.my main pastime is veggies of all sorts.I have been growing the demon weed for decades as I'm a child of the 50's.I use a product for bugs called spinosad.It works on many kinds of critters and is real good for leaf miners and worms.It is 100% organic and is safe up to one day before harvest.As far as ingesting in the smoke I dont know anyone that can answer that.One of the science guys can do a study maybe.Any way,the active ingredient is a naturally ocurring element called spinosin and is used for foliage feeding worms and such.It is a recent arrival on the scene so thats why you may not have heard of it yet.IT is OMRI listed and sanctioned by all the organic regulatory bodies.AND IT WORKS!!! like a hot damn.I used to have leaf miner so bad on my spinach and other greens that i have to waste the entire crop.Now i dont worry.I have done a control with the girls and there is 100% satisfaction.Look it up.I searched and found it by mail order but it should be at the garden centers.

trento · Sep 11, 2011

ChemoBoy said:
Yes you can pick the worms at night -- use a flashlight but remember that you'll stress your plants like that with light in the dark hours. And forget the other sprays. Get a caterpillar killer that has BT in it. Safer Caterpillar killer is one of the two I got, from a garden store. The other one is called Thuricide from Home Depot. Both are little bottles, about 10-12 bucks, but they make enough spray for 10 years prolly. Read the directions, follow them. Spray every 2-3 weeks and squish every worm you see.

there is a somewhat new product on the market called spinosad.100% organic and OMRI listed.I am an organic certified grower and this stuff works beautifully for foliage feeding worms and insects.An outfit called Monterey is one of the makers.I found it online but some garden centers will have it.BT works for some critters but there is some guarded information about ingesting it.Where I live in BC bud country they used to use it for gypsy moth control but stopped that because of certain studies that showed some danger to humans.IF you care about what you put in your body dont use it.IT is suspect.you can research spinosad for your self and make a no-brainer decision.

squarepush3r · Sep 13, 2011

one of my farms in san diego got manhandled by worms the past few weeks.

grizlbr · Sep 13, 2011

pabloesqobar said:
I've got plenty of hummingbirds around my grow. Never helped.

No real flowers and nectar to drink.

Grow Info · Sep 14, 2011

I picked off around 15 worms 2 days ago off one plant, examining the entire plant extremely thoroughly (all over the buds, tops, bottoms, sides, etc etc), and re-examining each day now, and there hasn't been any worms since. Do you guys think I have gotten all of them and won't have another invasion?

P.S. -- I fed the worms to my Carnivorous Fly-Trap Plant for some pay-back!!! =)

vangrav · Sep 15, 2011

because their little bodies are protein and thc...good food source

dbudman · Sep 16, 2011

veggiegardener said:
Safer Caterpillar Spray is all organic. The active ingredient is a Bacteria(Bacillus Thurengiensis) and can not affect humans. I've been using it for over two decades with excellent results.

Hey Veggie...
When you spray, how heavy do you spray? I would think it would be hard to get the spray into the dense buds when you are close to harvest.
That seems to be the only time these bastards strike. Then after you spray do you shake the branches to try kind of wring our the buds to minimize risk of powdery mildew?
I understand it is recommended to spray for 3 days concurrently.

This is the first time I got em and am trying to learn what I can from those who have won the battle in fighting them off.
I think next year I am going to build a screened enclosure to keep the bastards out.

imagreenwitya · Sep 16, 2011

Personally I spray 2xweek with recommended dose, I soak them good with 1/4 gallon sprayed on each plant each time. I'm in SoCal so mold isn't really an issue as things dry out quick here. BT is best used as a preventative. If you start spraying early, before you see any caterpillars you have a good chance of never seeing any.

https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/465175-socal-updates-w-pics-course.html

Here is the 2011 outdoor crop, started spraying at 1ft. twice a week (2tsp per gal http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OBIP20/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B000GA7ZO8&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0T32VQ57WMZ9VH7N11ZT , whole gallon sprayed each time over 4 plants total) So far zero caterpillars found. Last 2 seasons we had them bad.

I know that doesn't help you now but next season it will.