yellow leaves after transplant!?

Cangrow613

Cangrow613

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Soil: promix hp mycorrhizae 30% per-lite mix
pots: 5 gallon Fabric pots with 2" bottom layer of clay media for drainage
Lights: (2) Spider Farmer SF4000
Tent: 4x8 (only using half atm)
Nutes: General Hydroponics Full line at recommended strength (drain to waste) 900ppm
Temp: 79-82 (with lights on) 69-72 (Lights off)
RH: Between 50-70%
PH 6 to 6.5
Run off PH between 5.9- 6.5

I transplanted my 7 Critical Mass plants into 5 gallon fabric pots 3 days ago. Before transplant they were looking fairly healthy. Roots mass was nice, might have left them a bit too long in solo cup as they were circled around the bottom quite a bit. I've noticed new growth today, they appear to be over the transplant shock. A few of the bottom sets of fan leaves have turned yellow and other leaves higher up are showing signs of early yellowing.

I've been switching back and forth between feeding nutrients and regular ph'd water. 1 for 1.
I'm using full strength nutrients. The yellowing looks like the plant is not getting enough nitrogen right? Should I up the strength of nutes to 1000ppm? Does anybody have any experience with General Hydroponics recommended dose. Chart below in pics. Any help would be appreciated thanks.
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Cangrow613

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Gond00s said:
tbh my plants that small get like 500-600 ppm some bigger ones 800+ but those 400
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In your opinion do you think they are being over fed possibly causing a nitrogen lock out? even with the regular water flushing every other feeding?
 
manfredo

manfredo

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No Armor Si ??? I think that's one of the more important ones. I don't know "drain to waste" so won't comment on the yellowing, but they look great other than that.
 
Gond00s

Gond00s

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what is your base tap water silicon is a addon don't worry about it till u master the plant itself
 
Gond00s

Gond00s

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imho less is better I don't like their whole line up but if I would goto liquid ferts I would goto general hydro just the 3 that's it
 
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Hitboy

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Cangrow613 said:
Soil: promix hp mycorrhizae 30% per-lite mix
pots: 5 gallon Fabric pots with 2" bottom layer of clay media for drainage
Lights: (2) Spider Farmer SF4000
Tent: 4x8 (only using half atm)
Nutes: General Hydroponics Full line at recommended strength (drain to waste) 900ppm
Temp: 79-82 (with lights on) 69-72 (Lights off)
RH: Between 50-70%
PH 6 to 6.5
Run off PH between 5.9- 6.5

I transplanted my 7 Critical Mass plants into 5 gallon fabric pots 3 days ago. Before transplant they were looking fairly healthy. Roots mass was nice, might have left them a bit too long in solo cup as they were circled around the bottom quite a bit. I've noticed new growth today, they appear to be over the transplant shock. A few of the bottom sets of fan leaves have turned yellow and other leaves higher up are showing signs of early yellowing.

I've been switching back and forth between feeding nutrients and regular ph'd water. 1 for 1.
I'm using full strength nutrients. The yellowing looks like the plant is not getting enough nitrogen right? Should I up the strength of nutes to 1000ppm? Does anybody have any experience with General Hydroponics recommended dose. Chart below in pics. Any help would be appreciated thanks.
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imo you should feed according to week #2 in the chart and cut back on the N, Add more CaliMagic.
 
Cangrow613

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manfredo said:
No Armor Si ??? I think that's one of the more important ones. I don't know "drain to waste" so won't comment on the yellowing, but they look great other than that.
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Armour SI is out of stock everywhere in Canada for the last 2 months. Nobody knows when or if it will be back in stock. I’m using cyco silica.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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When I used GH products years ago I only used the Micro, Grow, and Bloom. Plants grew healthy and lush. You have another 9 bottles of products you don't need so who knows what's going on. Nutrient antagonism is real and is a cause of nutrient deficiencies which are then exacerbated by adding even more products in an attempt to correct the deficiency. One of the main causes people have issues with their plants is from dumping too much stuff on them. Plants grown in pots are not plants growing in the ground where excess nutrients can dissipate into the surrounding soil. Excessive nutrients will build up in small pots of soil, coco, or whatever medium you're growing in. If you're following that feeding chart there is no way that you're not giving enough nitrogen for those small plants. As for silica products, they are not a requirement for a healthy productive grow.

 
Gond00s

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xtsho said:
When I used GH products years ago I only used the Micro, Grow, and Bloom. Plants grew healthy and lush. You have another 9 bottles of products you don't need so who knows what's going on. Nutrient antagonism is real and is a cause of nutrient deficiencies which are then exacerbated by adding even more products in an attempt to correct the deficiency. One of the main causes people have issues with their plants is from dumping too much stuff on them. Plants grown in pots are not plants growing in the ground where excess nutrients can dissipate into the surrounding soil. Excessive nutrients will build up in small pots of soil, coco, or whatever medium you're growing in. If you're following that feeding chart there is no way that you're not giving enough nitrogen for those small plants. As for silica products, they are not a requirement for a healthy productive grow.

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aka less is better
 
manfredo

manfredo

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Cangrow613 said:
I just switched from distilled water to tap water. Still adding the same amount of Silica. Could that cause issues to arise?
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Only if you weren't checking the PH, as silica raises it significantly, but you said you were so no..

Silica isn't necessary, but it helps build a much stronger plant that can defend itself better from pests and disease like powdery mildew. Yes, some of that stuff is overkill, but IMO the silica is important....Especially since I'm still recovering from 2 runs of the evil pm :fire: It's not overkill to me!! Plus it makes your plants BIGGER!! It's like natures multi vitamin. You don't need it, but it might save your ass!
 
Cangrow613

Cangrow613

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manfredo said:
Only if you weren't checking the PH, as silica raises it significantly, but you said you were so no..

Silica isn't necessary, but it helps build a much stronger plant that can defend itself better from pests and disease like powdery mildew. Yes, some of that stuff is overkill, but IMO the silica is important....Especially since I'm still recovering from 2 runs of the evil pm :fire: It's not overkill to me!! Plus it makes your plants BIGGER!! It's like natures multi vitamin. You don't need it, but it might save your ass!
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For sure I wouldn't go without silica. My stocks doubled in size in a short time frame. Makes it a little harder to LST but IMO definitely worth the added strength. Why not use it? I don't believe it causes any negative effects or toxicities right?
 
FastFreddi

FastFreddi

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xtsho said:
When I used GH products years ago I only used the Micro, Grow, and Bloom. Plants grew healthy and lush. You have another 9 bottles of products you don't need so who knows what's going on. Nutrient antagonism is real and is a cause of nutrient deficiencies which are then exacerbated by adding even more products in an attempt to correct the deficiency. One of the main causes people have issues with their plants is from dumping too much stuff on them. Plants grown in pots are not plants growing in the ground where excess nutrients can dissipate into the surrounding soil. Excessive nutrients will build up in small pots of soil, coco, or whatever medium you're growing in. If you're following that feeding chart there is no way that you're not giving enough nitrogen for those small plants. As for silica products, they are not a requirement for a healthy productive grow.

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In other words op...less is more. Cut down on all the bs additives, give a good source of npk, maybe some bloom booster weeks 3,4,5...kiss method. Works for simpletons like me.
Good luck op.
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