canndo
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There is no proof that GMO crops cost less. The seeds cost more, they require more and more glyhposate and more and more pesticides as the BT quits working.
Yes!.....Cheerios to go non-GMO......
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There is no proof that GMO crops cost less. The seeds cost more, they require more and more glyhposate and more and more pesticides as the BT quits working.
desert dude
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There is ABSOLUTE proof that GMO crops cost less to produce, they have 90% of the US market for corn. Do you think 90% of US farmers chose a crop that lowers their profit?
UncleBuck
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for someone who spams relentlessly about how awesome GMOs are, you sure seem to shit your tighty whities at the thought of them simply informing the consumer of what they are eating.
the label actually enhances your ability to choose, by the way.
mental defectives abound in this forum.
doublejj
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I already said I'd pay extra for the printing of "Non-GMO" on my food. You can pay what ever price is cheapest for your consumption. Just labeling GMO's is not gonna cause the cost of your cheerios to go up. Oh snap* it already has. Oh well, just like paying to have handicapped parking spaces that are only for the disabled citizens but we all pay for it just the same. I have a hard time believing this is even a question in this day & age....
Dr Kynes
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you do not farm obviously.
glyphosate resistant crops do not NEED glyphosate, they are resitant to it.
BT does not "stop working" nor does the (hypothetical) lack of BT effectiveness imply that MORE pesticides would be needed, than are being used on Non-GMO crops, unless you are using the (theoretically ineffective) BT as a spray as well.
but that would be dumb.
Doer
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So you are a bit handicapped if you think that analogy holds up.
You already Freudian slipped your purpose. Drive out GMO, as if that was possible.In your analogy there would be nothing wrong with the handicapper parkees, and the entire thing is then revealed as a close parking, scam. A self proclaimed Elitism. Wait.....it is, already. And you say that is an example of necessary, chipping in by all. A sacrifice? BS. At my work there are a 100, at least un-occupied handicape spaces and the lots over fill. It is like the Mall on Christmas Eve every day. And all those wasted spaces.
You want to pay extra to drive out GMO. But. there is no way to replace that grain or cotton production level. Oh, you don't see the slippery slope?
Strange to me. It is a religion that is lashing out for power. How dare people compare this to DDT or Cigs, or anything that has been shown to be harmful? This is as knee jerk as it gets and in History, people end up getting killed over power grabs for power. And it can be worse this panic.
I've said nothing of reversing the course of Genetics research, getting all of it banned, etc.
We sit here and understand that ganja should be legal. I remind you it was just this kind of irrational fear that got it banned in the first place.
But, people pay extra to drive out certain people and things they fear. So I guess bigotry has many forms.
I just lump you all as evil Saganists, though you know it not. Good a term as any to me. Nothing personal of course.
Dr Kynes
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if i put a warning label on your bottled water which reads "Warning! May Contain Di-Hydrous Monoxide! An Industrial Solvent which may cause serious burns or even death. Acute Toxicity Dose LD50 5000g/kg! Keep away from children!" (which is all perfectly true) most people will gravitate to the bottle without the scary poorly understood warning label.
thats what the anti-gmo dipshit brigade wants. unreasoning fear, a warning label, and more unreasoning fear.
you want to prey on the ignorance of the vast herd of hoi polloi, to advance your anti-GMO agenda without having to face the reality that they are NOT harmful, dangerous or even distinct from other crops without DNA tests.
Dr Kynes
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Protip: DDT has been proved to be far less harmful than "Silent Spring" claimed. even the WHO has backed off on their crazy unsupported claims and fearmongering.So you are a bit handicapped if you think that analogy holds up.
In your analogy there would be nothing wrong with the handicapper parkees, and the entire thing is then revealed as a close parking, scam. A self proclaimed Elitism. Wait.....it is, already. And you say that is an example of necessary, chipping in by all. A sacrifice? BS. At my work there are a 100, at least un-occupied handicape spaces and the lots over fill. It is like the Mall on Christmas Eve every day. And all those wasted spaces.
You want to pay extra to drive out GMO. But. there is no way to replace that grain or cotton production level. Oh, you don't see the slippery slope?
Strange to me. It is a religion that is lashing out for power. How dare people compare this to DDT or Cigs, or anything that has been shown to be harmful? This is as knee jerk as it gets and in History, people end up getting killed over power grabs for power. And it can be worse this panic.
I've said nothing of reversing the course of Genetics research, getting all of it banned, etc.
We sit here and understand that ganja should be legal. I remind you it was just this kind of irrational fear that got it banned in the first place.
But, people pay extra to drive out certain people and things they fear. So I guess bigotry has many forms.
I just lump you all as evil Saganists, though you know it not. Good a term as any to me. Nothing personal of course.
it was all bullshit.
much like the "hazards" of "second hand smoke" (which is 3x more dangerous than first hand smoke... somehow.)
or the dangers of "Marijuana Addiction" (Anderson Cooper just sprayed fear-urine all over his studio last night with a "special report")
desert dude
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr Kynes again.
Dr Kynes
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Pop that collah homey.
doublejj
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I'll keep pushing against GMO's as long & hard as it takes, but I already know how to get to them, with my $$$. I support organic/non-gmo farmers, and spend my $$$ accordingly. If US farmers wish to continue to try squeeze every cent from the consumer by growing GMO crops, they will just be sending their own jobs overseas, so be it. I will continue to ask my local grocer for organic/non-gmo products, I would like for them to be grown here, but..
UncleBuck
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just keep relentlessly spamming the wonders of GMO and that "warning" label will be a selling point.
i don't think of it as a warning label, i just want to know what's in the food i am eating.
sounds like you are all for keeping people in the dark about what they are eating. why so scared?
echelon1k1
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Agreed, If GM producers/suppliers are convinced they have a product that people want, at the right price, that is also safe, printing the words "THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS GENETICALLY MODIFIED INGREDIENTS" on the label shouldn't make a difference.
doublejj
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That's all I ask for......
Canna Sylvan
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Cause baby it's cold outside.
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