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captainmorgan said:
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Shit that's high! With a possible R4 infection rate and a possible 2 week incubation period it will be very difficult to contain now that it's on the loose in America. With a 10 or 20% hospitalization rate it will overwhelm the medical system and cause real panic if the spread is left uncontrolled. The local media showing video of overwhelmed hospitals and people lined up outside will sow panic big time. Containment is everything here, slowing the spread down so the medical system doesn't crash and burn, if that happens then the shit hits the fan bigly. Draconian public health measures might be required to contain this thing, even if most people don't get that sick, enough will to overload the system.
 
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captainmorgan said:
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CDC blocked FDA official from premises

Sent to help the administration’s coronavirus response, a test specialist was stopped at CDC’s door and made to wait overnight.
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The TV ads the democrats will run over this in the fall will set yer couch on fucking fire! If it gets real bad they will be ready to lynch Trump by November, much less remove him from power. The GOP senate will pay for not convicting him in spades too.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
The TV ads the democrats will run over this in the fall will set yer couch on fucking fire! If it gets real bad they will be ready to lynch Trump by November, much less remove him from power. The GOP senate will pay for not convicting him in spades too.
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I hope not. I hope Democrats don't do what Trump and his team are doing and treat this public health emergency as a political event. Whatever they do, ads like that could only delay actions and distract those hard at work to save live. Let this play out in new-based reports like the one @captainmorgan posted. The public can make up its own mind about what Trump is doing or not doing by reading the facts.
 
Fogdog said:
I hope not. I hope Democrats don't do what Trump and his team are doing and treat this public health emergency as a political event. Whatever they do, ads like that could only delay actions and distract those hard at work to save live. Let this play out in new-based reports like the one @captainmorgan posted. The public can make up its own mind about what Trump is doing or not doing by reading the facts.
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By november this could be the biggest issue there is and the house will need answers before then with public hearings. Elections are about policy and competence, if Trump fucks up on both it's fair game, they only need to tell the truth, no lies or distortions required. What has come out so far is shocking, America got caught with its pants down and the buck stops with Trump. The president is supposed to protect and defend the constitution and the people of the nation, Trump failed miserably at this basic task. There are consequences for incompetent and callous leadership and we are about to experience them.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
The house needs to investigate this whole situation, classic oversight, the senate is a tool of Trump and can't be trusted to do the right thing.
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They would have to be careful about that. I've never worked on a crisis of this nature but I know first-hand how hard people work when a crisis hits. We want to keep their focus on the problem, not on a congressional probe in the middle of the crisis. A few well placed questions to an otherwise unoccupied official -- such as Pence -- would probably be appropriate for now.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
By november this could be the biggest issue there is and the house will need answers before then with public hearings. Elections are about policy and competence, if Trump fucks up on both it's fair game, they only need to tell the truth, no lies or distortions required. What has come out so far is shocking, America got caught with its pants down and the buck stops with Trump. The president is supposed to protect and defend the constitution and the people of the nation, Trump failed miserably at this basic task. There are consequences for incompetent and callous leadership and we are about to pay it.
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I hope that we can disagree about this. When people are working 'round the clock to save lives, let them be. Congressional investigations can take place later.

On the other hand, if Trump wants to bring it up and make a political issue out of this by slandering Democrats, then they are completely within their rights to defend themselves and to take the offensive.

We are so screwed right now.
 
Fogdog said:
I hope that we can disagree about this. When people are working 'round the clock to save lives, let them be. Congressional investigations can take place later.

On the other hand, if Trump wants to bring it up and make a political issue out of this by slandering Democrats, then they are completely within their rights to defend themselves and to take the offensive.

We are so screwed right now.
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I'm doing the prophecy thing and my opinions here are of no account, it's mostly venting at the news and trying to figure out it's implications. I mostly like to try and figure out which way Donald will squirm to try and avoid his inevitable fate of disgrace and humiliation in a court of law. I got involved in US politics because of trump, he is a traitor and a real and present danger to my country and yours. This pandemic only reinforces the point that somethings are transnational like Trump and somethings are not like the primaries, that's American business.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
I'm doing the prophecy thing and my opinions here are of no account, it's mostly venting at the news and trying to figure out it's implications. I mostly like to try and figure out which way Donald will squirm to try and avoid his inevitable fate of disgrace and humiliation in a court of law. I got involved in US politics because of trump, he is a traitor and a real and present danger to my country and yours. This pandemic only reinforces the point that somethings are transnational like Trump and somethings are not like the primaries, that's American business.
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Yep,

Somebody caught a bug in China and it triggers a recession in the US.

These are strange times.
 
Fogdog said:
We are so screwed right now
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I keep saying that Trump will get it from his undocumented personal servants at Mar Logo. Imagine Donald quarantined there during the election with most of his campaign team! Think positive thoughts, Donald will have his rallies canceled and won't have the guts to show up in person. If they do quarantine the raging bull during the campaign I wonder if he will defy it.

During the house hearings on the pandemic this spring or summer, will he order witnesses not to appear? Documents to be withheld? Remember he fucked up bigly here on several levels over a couple of years, and during a critical 2 month period recently, he will want to hide those facts. That too will look very bad in november...
 
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NBC News’ Stephanie Ruhle reports on the closing numbers of the New York Stock Exchange as the emergency rate cut by the Federal Reserve failed to calm Wall Street’s coronavirus fears, causing the market to plunge almost 800 points.
 
Deutsche Bank, Trump, the Supreme Court, Russia and why the president may be fighting so hard

David Enrich, author of "Dark Towers: Deutsche Bank, Donald Trump and an Epic Trail of Destruction" joins the On The Move panel to discuss his new book which tells the story of Deutsche Bank’s connection to President Trump starting in the 1990s.
 
DIY-HP-LED said:
Deutsche Bank, Trump, the Supreme Court, Russia and why the president may be fighting so hard

David Enrich, author of "Dark Towers: Deutsche Bank, Donald Trump and an Epic Trail of Destruction" joins the On The Move panel to discuss his new book which tells the story of Deutsche Bank’s connection to President Trump starting in the 1990s.
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Well I guess next month is when we find out how compromised the SCOTUS is with Trump. Pretty scary.
 
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