Ztelthys 100W HPS TV Cabinet Conversion (Pimped Out !!!)

GrowTheNation said:

Dope build. What lucky lady will have the pleasure to call that fortress a home?
Sub for sure

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Cheers man! I was thinking of going with a "Banana Kush - Cross" perhaps crossed with Blue-Dream or G-13!? I still ain't done much more on my Cab this week.. I got the 2X CPU fans..they are 0.5cm smaller in diameter than I thought they were going to be ...but I can make them work.

I am in a dilemma whether to use just 2x 3.7" CPU fans to cool the tube ..or whether I'd be better off and having 4 of them


ie/:- cpu in > ducting > cpu > cool-tube + lamp > cpu > ducting > cpu out !??


I mean I am pretty certain that'll work better than just an in and an out !?

..and the good thing is - is that these little fans make next to no noise ... so 4 of em wired to a 12V transformer should be fine and with a variable transformer I can even control the speed ..I' like that even more control lol - ZTELTHY

pretty sweet the more fans the more efficiently they can move the air, same amount of air space, but easier on the fan and at a faster rate.

that plant is insane zelthy! holy shit! lol - i have a question for you if you dont mind.. I wrote out a long post last night but i dont see it posted... no idea.. anyhoo - i plan to turn my old bigscreen into a stealthy grow chamber. its 48" L 17" W and 57" T , ive only covered the inside with mylar so far, how would you vent a setup like this? for now i have 4 105w cfl's but plan to upgrade either to a 400 or 600w hps, i plan to grow 4-5 autos at once and maybe a single photo (fem) any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

JFlo941 said:

that plant is insane zelthy! holy shit! lol - i have a question for you if you don't mind.. I wrote out a long post last night but i dont see it posted... no idea.. anyhoo - i plan to turn my old bigscreen into a stealthy grow chamber. its 48" L 17" W and 57" T , ive only covered the inside with mylar so far, how would you vent a setup like this? for now i have 4 105w cfl's but plan to upgrade either to a 400 or 600w hps, i plan to grow 4-5 autos at once and maybe a single photo (fem) any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi dude, Cheers! - Yeah man she was massive..and that was 17.5oZ DRY I topped her in excess of 48 times, fed her under the screen and LST'd every top and only used a 10L Res. Funnily enough like you I wrote out a big reply and I closed the page by accident and lost my reply to you lol...so I am gonna re-write it now for you lol...

Mylar is great I swear by it... Eventually though, I plan to upgrade to ORCA-FILM as its hella reflective although quite expensive... luckily for me the area I am covering is pretty small so it shouldn't cost that much....saying that it wouldn't cost you much either maybe £15-£20..!?

You could either copy me and run separate installs for light and filtration...this gives you more control over temps in small/confined spaces.. or you can just have a single 4"- 6" intake vent, I'd add an Odor Soc on the passive intake just as a precaution against unwanted back-drafts..it will also filter air entering the grow-space and stop dust, bugs and other bits of crap from entering the grow enviroment..

Then on the out take have either a 4" or 6" vent attached to a 4" - 8" Carbon filter... notice I said 8"... well if you want stealth its always good to use a bigger filter as it helps keep noise levels down..you can use duct silencers as well etc..but it depends on the length of your duct runs ?

A 400W Dual Spectrum HPS will be fine ...but I will tell you 600's dont like small spaces.. I mean they get real hot..and I mean HOT! and cooling a 600 is usually a noisy affair in small grow ops.. do you have a make of lamp/ballast etc in mind?

I am always happy to help (if I can) lol.. I'd happily except a LINK to your Cab/Telly conversion... Be cool to check in on how ur getting along - ZTELTHY -

hell yea bro all advise is better than the knoledge that i lack luls

heres the tv its self


like i said i have only started covering it in mylar, heres a pic of it opened and a pic of the bottom space


the plan is to grow 4 autos and a photo (i want to lst and possibly clone so vegging wont be a problem) i plan to do 2 autos on the left the photo in the middle and 2 more autos on the right. a 400 hps in the middle and 210 cfl watts on either side for the autosnoise isnt a factor ( i would like to keep it to a minimum but its ok if its not 100% quiet) heres kinda what i have figured out. only thing im really missing is the venting part which is proving to be the most difficult.



thanks for your help let me know how i can make this baby come ot life! lol

MONDAY UPDATE # 3&4 !!




I used a Dremal and some cutting discs and cut off the corners of the CPU fan, where the bolts usually go.. this is so the fans can become 'IN-LINE' .. I've ordered 2 more too..



I connected up the air hose to both the pump and the T-shaped air-stone applience, ready for nuits/water etc in the 5L DWC Res.



I hid a majority of the air-line under the shelf, and then fed it into the Res. through the lid



I added a tape measure so I can measure the plants growth with ease..and also a digital Thermometer..



I added Bathroom Tooth Brush holder too (bottom left) to keep all my pippets, marker pens etc in



Not a massive update, but its summink..if the 2 extra fans arrive this week..my next Update should be more substantial still.. I should have some free time this week, so without further a due .. I'll crack on - ZTELTHY

think 5 of these would cool my 400w hps (i plan on getting an ipower 400w ballast)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/80mm-Fans-4-LED-Blue-for-Computer-PC-Case-Cooling-/280639029749?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item415763c1f5

i plan to do 2 intake 2 exhaust and 1 in the cab circulating air will this work? or should i just give in and buy a real fan?

Idk if anyone has ever asked u to try 1/4" soaker tube as an air stone? If not that's supposed to be a very good way to ad the air to the tank and I can be weighted down by washers on the tube u can make it any shape size what ever but it bubbles better just to put that out their!! And your cab looks simply amazing!!!

doesnt make a difference most of the gas exchange takes place at the surface of the water so long as there is surface disruption, regardless of the airstone size or type your gonna get around the same amount of Disolved oxygen in the water based on the surface area of the water

JFlo941 said:

think 5 of these would cool my 400w hps (i plan on getting an ipower 400w ballast)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/80mm-Fans-4-LED-Blue-for-Computer-PC-Case-Cooling-/280639029749?pt=US_Computer_Case_Fans&hash=item415763c1f5

i plan to do 2 intake 2 exhaust and 1 in the cab circulating air will this work? or should i just give in and buy a real fan?

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Honestly! ........Give up and buy a real fan ..you could prob get away with cooling a 250 but I fear you'll have probs cooling a 400 .. I'd defo buy a 6" or ideally 8" in-line fan ..the good thing about most 8" in-line fans is that they actually are the same size externally..as the 6" in-line fans - obviously inside the propeller/fan is different in size but the important thing is the 8" shifts 950 m3/ph !!! - ZTELTHY

Ztelthy said:

Honestly! ........Give up and buy a real fan ..you could prob get away with cooling a 250 but I fear you'll have probs cooling a 400 .. I'd defo buy a 6" or ideally 8" in-line fan ..the good thing about most 8" in-line fans is that they actually are the same size externally, obviously inside the propeller/fan is different in size but the important thing is the 8" shifts 950 m3/ph !!! - ZTELTHY

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Oh and you can usually get an 8" fan for under £100 and if 2nd hand then for under half that.. it all depends really though on the size of your grow space and the size of the lamp..but an in-line fan will defo help you alot more instead of the CFLS hope that helps man - ZTELTHY

Ztelthy said:

Oh and you can usually get an 8" fan for under £100 and if 2nd hand then for under half that.. it all depends really though on the size of your grow space and the size of the lamp..but an in-line fan will defo help you alot more instead of the CFLS hope that helps man - ZTELTHY

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EDIT :- Should read CPU's ..

- MONDAY UPDATE #5 -







I melted a hole in the lid of the 5L DWC Res. and pushed in this triangular drill bit as a stopper (so light cant get into the root6 area) ..this will allow me to use a small syphon pump to do my Res change/s without disturbing the plant at all




I decided to test the air-pump & lines.. all was working perfectly .. and nice and quietly too!




I also installed this 2nd Thermometer..




This area will be hoovered and cleaned soon, You can see though there is some light in the Res.. I've pin-pointed the main leak..its around the rim were the lid clips on.. I'll get this sorted this week




I also took the opportunity to hide the cable from my mini backward facing desk fan






I've started to sort out the light-leaks..

I'll show off what I did next ..firstly ..,I know I know I was going to do an arced SCROG, But! I decided to just go with the Horizontal one for now..
...After a well deserved spliff and beer break I got on with it




I installed the SCROG Screen, and tidied all the cables..



So far so good !!




I added a Smoke Alarm, (piece of mind) b.. and added an extra hook for my utensils..


'Unfortunatley I'am still waiting for my 2 other CPU fans to be delivered so I can get the lighting rig fully installed, sealed and ready to go' however I have made time to make sure the CPU's I cut the corners off did fit inside the ducting connecters etc..



There's a few tweeks etc still to be done but you can see its really starting to look good...I'am very pleased with how this project is turning out




Anyhow getting back to those light leaks.. I cut a pice of flat-ish wood o size and added it to the left door on the cab..




The section of wood has helped, but its not perfect.. I will spend some more time perfecting this job this coming week.. I hope y'all enjoyed this weeks update.. !? - ZTELTHY

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250w-lumatek-dimmable-digital-grow-light-ballast-150w-175w-250w-super-lumens-/330751090534?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item4d024d1f66#ht_1450wt_1037

^ I've also decided to get this great little ballast ready for a future upgrade in this Cab It will be the step up from 100w HPS to 150w, then 175w and then 250w ..with a super-lumen switch as well...250+ Watts will be plenty for a Cab of this size - ZTELTHY

your sock will need to be near the top of your box for flower, I am like you, started a pc grow and then moved to a slightly bigger setup. 2 plants skunked out my house out to the driveway from the basement. A good filter is important. Mountain Air has a 4" 200cfm one that works like a charm. Also 100w is ok but you should put in 2 26W CFL as that will put you in the sweet spot of 150w/plant (you will have 152). Also try topping, I am doing a grow atm with 3 topped and 3 not,all under a screen. The topped/lst plants are already ready to flower whereas the solely LST plants have only half filled the screen. Also is that aluminum on the walls? if so take it down immediately, aluminum absorbs more light then reflects and creates hotspots, mylar or panda film, failing that paint it matte white.

thejimi said:

your sock will need to be near the top of your box for flower, I am like you, started a pc grow and then moved to a slightly bigger setup. 2 plants skunked out my house out to the driveway from the basement. A good filter is important. Mountain Air has a 4" 200cfm one that works like a charm. Also 100w is ok but you should put in 2 26W CFL as that will put you in the sweet spot of 150w/plant (you will have 152). Also try topping, I am doing a grow atm with 3 topped and 3 not,all under a screen. The topped/lst plants are already ready to flower whereas the solely LST plants have only half filled the screen. Also is that aluminum on the walls? if so take it down immediately, aluminum absorbs more light then reflects and creates hotspots, mylar or panda film, failing that paint it matte white.

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Hi dude, the sock is fine where it is.. I have placed it there to allow a more even filtered intake flurry of air, I started a PC conversion a while ago but lost interest in it.. But agreed.. the bigger unit is miles better I have a 4" IKON carbon filter in there atm but may upgrade to a RHINO depending how well the IKON performs..

I do plan to add supplementary CFL lighting as well as a possible UV-B ....I'am also toying with the idea of running Co2, but I'll do a bit more research 1st before I look into that ..I will wait until I have completed the ducting for the HPS tube and then run some temperature test to see what the highest watt CFL I'll be able to run.. also I think I'll run 2X 6500K CFL's since these 100W HPS lamps do look a bit too warm (not sure of Kelvin rating) ..I will find out the K-rating and then that should allow me to work out what spectrum the CFL's should be to give me optimum range and the best spectrum color coverage..

I will most likely upgrade the 100W HPS/MH Ballast to the 250W Dimable Lumatek ballast which will allow me to run 150w, 175w, 250w ..and also a 20% boost for late flower..But I wanna make sure the temps are where I want them first I bought a UV-B tube too, but after installing all the other elevated components there simply wasn't enough room...Its still on my mind though ..and there will be one going in there..just a case of finding the 10.0 ones in a suitable size (both lamp and fixture).

In this unit I plan to TOP - (multiple times), SCROG, then SUPER-CROP every top..this will help maximize my potential yield .. Nah! its not Aluminium lol.. Its Diamond Mylar... Its great stuff! But I will eventually upgrade to ORCA film later on down the line (ORCA is hella-reflective) You are correct though..had that been Alu/foil then it should be torn down lol... luckilly I know what I'am doing lol ... anyhow still heaps more to come, pull up a seat and get your self a tasty beverage and funky peppery spliff and enjoy the show lol - ZTELTHY

you where talking about a UVB ztealthy, and i would not recommend the CFL if you can avoid it there are quite a few options as far as tubes go, but if you "overdrive" a tube this will increase the UVB output in retrospect, so you could buy say a 14w tube and overdrive it to 28w and it would provide adequate UVB/watts for the size(because of the chemical change in the glass overtime form UV, the loss of life will not matter. meaning the overdriven bulb will stop producing adequate UVB long before its life span(for the visible light) is over.)

Starting to really come together mate! sorry I lost this thread, got carried away helping someone out and pushed this to the bottom

Anyway keep it up! I've just ordered a 270w LED to replace my 250w HPS, and I'll be using it alongside the 90w UFO and 45w Fluoro tube lol, also downgraded my extraction to a 120mm stupid high power PC fan (for gaming machines lol) as LED's will hopefully reduce temps even more and therefor the need for high power exhaust. I also want to be able to run the extraction 24/7 as quietly as possible and my 4" inline was/is just far to loud for my stealth purposes, and the smell escapes during lights/fans off (same timer)!

My favorite part about your cabs is the neat little storage solutions, bathroom cup, scissor hooks tool hideaways lol it's the little touches! Also really like that you can see into the res, good idea!

Matchbox said:

My favorite part about your cabs is the neat little storage solutions, bathroom cup, scissor hooks tool hideaways lol it's the little touches! Also really like that you can see into the res, good idea!

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just chillin to this ^ .. read you message...it made me smile - ZTELTHY