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fir3dragon

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If I don't have to use slot I just mix up a gallon and after I add nutes I Ph from there. If it's not 5.8 on the dot don't drive yourself crazy with trying to adjust it.
I actually figured it out haha. 1 ounce of microbe hydro root dip and 1.7g of maxi bloom I need 8 drops of ph down to get it 5.8. I wrote it down so I won't forget lol. I used the root dip so it helps reduce the shitty transplant job I did.. All the coco fell off the roots lol I'm sure they will survive though. Hopefully they will take off soon.
 

fir3dragon

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A little update... Not much has changed. The clones in the hempy buckets haven't grew At all. They didn't die, so I'm guessing it's just taking time to root and stuff. I'll continue to be patient. The mothers are doing fine. Where I live we get season ladybugs so I was infested with them and I think they were eating the plants. I keep taking them off the plants putting them in a bucket of water and flushing down the toilet when done so I know they aren't coming back lol. I also took 5 more clones, I have better luck with these then the last, I took them on the 26th and one has showed roots though the bottom of my solo cup already! I would take pics, but it's such a pain to upload from a iPadiPad
 

fir3dragon

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A little update... Not much has changed. The clones in the hempy buckets haven't grew At all. They didn't die, so I'm guessing it's just taking time to root and stuff. I'll continue to be patient. The mothers are doing fine. Where I live we get season ladybugs so I was infested with them and I think they were eating the plants. I keep taking them off the plants putting them in a bucket of water and flushing down the toilet when done so I know they aren't coming back lol. I also took 5 more clones, I have better luck with these then the last, I took them on the 26th and one has showed roots though the bottom of my solo cup already! I would take pics, but it's such a pain to upload from a iPadiPad
Quick update.. Don't really got time to be on here anymore. I got a new job as a property inspector so I been out doing that all day and half the night. By the time I get home it's dark I check the girls and I'm ready for bed to do it all over again.

2 of the 3 clones have exploded in growth. The third clone is showing some new growth, so it's only a matter of time before it explode too. The leaves on the two that are big are bigger then my hand. The 5 additional clones are still living, but now showing much growth. They are still in solo cups. The 3 moms I have are bigger too. Prolly almost 3 foot tall. I put the 5 solo cup and the 3 moms in the Tent because I picked up 3 2 bulb t5 fixtures. They will work until I can pick something better up. I topped the two big clones so I can prepare to tie them to the wall of weed but I need a bigger res because the one I got fills up too fast cuz it's too small.. Hopefully sometime I'll be able to post pics and get some replies lol.
 

fir3dragon

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heres an update and this time with some pics. these pics are of the 3 clones. the little clone is getting there and before too long will take off. im hoping to flower by the end of january or sometime in feb. march at the latest... im having some leaf discoloration issues as seen in the pics. im not sure what the issue is but i would like to get some opinions on what it is... im giving them the full strength maxibloom 7 grams per gallon kiss method with a ph of 5.5-5.8 i try to get it as good to 5.8 as possible but i dont sit around for hours trying to get it spot on. bluelab ph meter freshly calibrated with bluelab solutions so i know its reading right. everything else looks good.. except the moms lmao they look like shit compared to these.. and are almost out grown. Also I think they looks stretched but I'm going to be tieing them to the wall so I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not.. Let me know your opinions they are dry right now so ill water soon I don't record how often I water I would say maybe every 2-3 days I feed every watering.
 

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fir3dragon

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Not sure if any of you people care but.. I decided to take the mothers out of the tent and veg then with the clones vertically. I still got 5 clones in solo cups in the tent. I put the plants all around the bulb. I got plans on buying bigger saucers, a wet/dry vac for the run off, a ushio bulb for flowering. For next grow I'm going to start a proper journal because I'll be buying some seeds and hopefully my room will look a hell of a lot better then what it currently does. I got plans on buying 3 g13 Pineapple Express and 3 dinafem blue cheese. I figure out of 3, find the best ones of each strain and put them in the tent as my mothers and get rid of the bag seeds completely. Also buy more pots, and more hydroton pebbles so I can make all plants coco hempy instead of soil and hempys. So far I'm loving it except the fact I water every day or two days 10 gallons per watering. I'm thinking of getting a reservoir
 

fir3dragon

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Not sure if any of you people care but.. I decided to take the mothers out of the tent and veg then with the clones vertically. I still got 5 clones in solo cups in the tent. I put the plants all around the bulb. I got plans on buying bigger saucers, a wet/dry vac for the run off, a ushio bulb for flowering. For next grow I'm going to start a proper journal because I'll be buying some seeds and hopefully my room will look a hell of a lot better then what it currently does. I got plans on buying 3 g13 Pineapple Express and 3 dinafem blue cheese. I figure out of 3, find the best ones of each strain and put them in the tent as my mothers and get rid of the bag seeds completely. Also buy more pots, and more hydroton pebbles so I can make all plants coco hempy instead of soil and hempys. So far I'm loving it except the fact I water every day or two days 10 gallons per watering. I'm thinking of getting a reservoir. I also will and hope to keep expanding as I grow. If this works out. I'll put another vertical wall of weed setup in the other L shaped corner with another 600w if I can control temps...
 

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fir3dragon

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This is my 6th grow. All the previous were done under a cheap 400 magnetic htg supply they were also in soil and nothing but soil. Not good soil because it's very expensive where I live.

I'm I'm a 8x10 spare bedroom so plenty of room is available. I use one corner for the L shaped wall of weed. I use outside air to cool it, and half the time I don't need that either. I got my 3x3 tent setup in there. I had started in soil until I was convinced to switch. I had never taken clones so I figured I needed to get it done and know how to do it so I cloned the soil females, into coco solo cups and watered at 5.8 ph water. It took awhile for them to respond but they finally did. Since I got coco hempy clones and plants in soil I can compare the difference. I'm going to buy 3 g13 Pineapple Express and 3 dinafem blue cheese seeds here I'm a month or so. My plan is to finish this grow out, plant the good seeds and work on perpetual with cloning. I'm tired of bag seeds I don't get much off of it. I'll post updated pics of the room by tomorrow, I just moved some things around.

My Method
-Coco medium
-Feeding kiss style (maxibloom all the way)
-Wall of weed (vertical scrog)
-Hempy buckets
-Vertical

Upgrades I'm considering and why
-I'm working on getting a reservoir - To get rid of the hassle of lugging gallons up and down the stairs
-Truncheon meter - To read nutrient level differences if I don't see a need, then I won't.
-Ushio hps bulb for flowering - either this or my ipower hps bulb
-Wet/dry vac for the saucers of the hempys - When they are tied to wall, I need something to remove runoff
-Bigger sauces for the pots - The current ones overflow and get full real easy until watering is dialed in
-Mini washing machine hash extraction method - Always did butter and never cent anything.
-More clay pebbles - so I can expand and grow more buds..

this is my first journal, and I'm not sure how to start it out but I hope this will be a decent start. Pictures of plants and room will be up ASAP.

View attachment 2941915This pic is the left side of the room. All three of them are in coco hempy buckets.


View attachment 2941916This is a plant in soil. One of the clones mothers. I didnt label which was which. Next grow i got plans on replacing it with 3 coco hempys growing regularly.


View attachment 2941917This pic has two soil plants that are the clones mothers. Ill arracj them to the wall of weed as best as i can, and the next grow will be replaced with 3 coco hempys.


View attachment 2941918This is the 6 inch inline fan and filter i use for smell. Seems to work, might get a 8 inch.


View attachment 2941919This is directly behind the door when its opened..The AC i use during summer its a 10k btw. The tote at the top is half full of left over coco.


View attachment 2941920This is my electrical panel as i call it... its hanging on the wall behind the door and above the AC and tote of coco.


View attachment 2941921This box will be removed, and this is where i want to put my reservoir since its got electrical plugins right there and its next to my tent.


View attachment 2941922This is future expansion space. i want to do another wall of weed with 4 plants and a 600w with plants around it like the last one.


View attachment 2941923This is the intake from outside, its set on a speed controller and half the time i dont need it. The bucket im going to find a wet/dry vac lid for it and use it to suck the run off out of my saucers.


View attachment 2941924This is the tent, with 5 additional clones. they are rooted but i just took them to see if they would root and how easy it was... ill end up either killing or transplanting and flowering them before i get my seeds. When i get good genetic seeds, i want all bagseeds gone.


View attachment 2941925That is my desk i use to mix nutrients and record data on.. have been slacking lately but i need to step up.. that paint can is trash, the box is levers from the vertical switch.


View attachment 2941926This is a side view of the tent, where i want my res. The box will be removed, and the box fan is what i use for the plants on the wall of weed to keep them aerated and strong stems.


View attachment 2941927This is the door contraption i made. Hardly any light shines out and im working on fixing it so NONE shines out. The door is always locked and NO ONE knows i grow except my mother and thats because i live with her but anyways.. MUST STAY STEALTHY


View attachment 2941928This is a pic of current temps.. i love them....
 

fir3dragon

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I started a grow journal, and this was posted there. I copied & pasted it but you guys have to click on the images... sorry about that.. ill start to update both threads as much as i can..
 

fir3dragon

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Went to the Dollar General today, and bought a 15 dollar trash can with a lid.. just a cheap one. Then i went to petsmart to buy the other stuff which i regret because it was expensive but anyways i got 2 air stones, a water pump, air pump hoses, i already had a dual hose air pump, and the trash can for about 60 bucks. I need to figure out what size hose is on my water pump so i can get one of them. Should i get clear or black? i got black air hoses btw.There isnt any nutes in the res yet. Im just running everything to see how it works. Its got 20 gallons of water, so ill put 150 grams of maxibloom in there. I figure a little more wouldnt hurt.. the hard pain in the ass part is getting the water phed.. but anyways... pic time...

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Im soposted to get my check in the bank tomorrow. Im going to be heading to the hydro store to get another bag of pebbles and maybe a truncheon not sure yet. Pebbles for sure, so i can create more hempy buckets. Im also going to go to the dollar store, get bigger run off catchers and if dollar store dont got anything good ill go to walmart or kmart..i need a wet/dry vac lid thing too. Gotta get things down online ill update tomorrow... or sunday
 

fir3dragon

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Even though no one responds, ill keep updating cause never know, i might help someone searching for some information...

I didnt get my check yet. I dont know what the hell is going on with it. Anyways, i got the rez completely done. I got the hose and everything for it. I think my pump is a little weak, so im gonna buy another pump. I bought the current at petsmart, i think its a 175 gph or something. Im gonna get a 400 gph from the local hydro store for the res, and use the 175 to pump the shop vac fluids out the window haha. I tied the coco hempys to the wall, and did a little pruning i guess you would call it.. cut some stuff off. Im debating on if i should tie the soil mothers to the wall as well, or just leave them be... Im thinking of doing it for the hell of it.. Heres some pics.. not much but better then nothing.

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Dannysayo

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Well i was just searching thru looking for new and interesting info. Thats cool bro. Never really tried vert growing. I usually do lst, bush style :-)

Well ill sub in and keep in touch
 

fir3dragon

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Well i was just searching thru looking for new and interesting info. Thats cool bro. Never really tried vert growing. I usually do lst, bush style :-)

Well ill sub in and keep in touch
Thanks man. I'll update more when I do more. Next grow I'm going to sorround the whole light with 3 plants on each side. 6 on the wall and 6 regular coco hempys.
 

fir3dragon

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I've decided I'm going to be using 2 liter soda bottles hempy style to sorround the bulb at all sides. I'm going to use the clones I currently got and put them in the 2 liters take more clones for safe keeping lol just In case I don't order seeds, I'll have clones to use. I'm going to take pics and stuff tomorrow when I change my res
 

Nizza

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if you use the compressed coco, and some bagged coco , you need to properly pre-treat it.

this includes rinsing, soaking, charging, and buffering it

in my experience, the plant-it clay pebbles were garbage
 

fir3dragon

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if you use the compressed coco, and some bagged coco , you need to properly pre-treat it.

this includes rinsing, soaking, charging, and buffering it

in my experience, the plant-it clay pebbles were garbage
i did rinse it. I didn't use bagged coco only the 5kg brick. The clay pebbles seem to be good for me.. A lot of broken ones but it does what I need it to do.

I'm not having any issues with the coco but why do you say soaking charging and buffering it and what does that mean? What was wrong with the clay pebbles that you didn't like?
 

fir3dragon

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Update-

went to the store. Got a wet vac to suck the run off up from the saucers so no more overflowing for me. I got a case of pint canning jars for when I cure. I used sauce jars before. I got the cases you see in pics for the 2 liter soda bottles I got a couple things for hash making too.. I got a paint stir stick for mixing a spray bottle to spray the bubble bags when I'm taking them out to get all the stuff off the sides.. And 3 5 gallon buckets. I'm going by a guide I read. I'm gonna get bubble bags next. I've never made hash before so I'm excited to try it. I also did a a res change, and took 15 clones in case I don't order seeds I took clones so I don't need to restart from seed. Here's the pics...

I did the middle finger thing to block the light for the pic. No clue why the pics are sideways...
 

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fir3dragon

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Update will be tomorrow. I think I'm under watering cause I had to lend someone my wet vac and didn't water. No droop, just a bit of wilted leaves. The plants are up to the top of the fence now. I'm going to hopefully start flowering on Friday. Hopefully I'll be able to contain these bitches haha... And I may have failed at cloning too which isn't a good thing. Good thing is, I got a clone left to continue to clone lol.
 

Dirf

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Keep that clone you gotta keep your mothers alive! Keep updating I am following this one.
 

fir3dragon

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Keep that clone you gotta keep your mothers alive! Keep updating I am following this one.
I am keeping it haha. I checked them just now and watered the clones.. I think 6 for sure lived. I gave them a gentle tug, and they felt like they had roots. I'm keeping them all in there until they are actuAlly dead lol. I will post more pics when I do the res change and get my wet vac back! One of my saucers on the soil mom is broke... Idk how it happened but water leaks everywhere and now I gotta wither water her several times a day, or just water real good and let the run off leak onto the towel... These cheap dollar tree saucers are shit lol.
 

fir3dragon

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Sorry for the lack of update. I did switch the other bulb in so I'm flowering and I'm usually never home when the lights are on and when I get home, they usually just turn off. I'll have to snap some pics tonight
 
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