DALE199595
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I have been using ionics for past grows and have decided to give advanced nutrients a try after a lot of good reviews has anybody used this is it any good and is it worth the price? Thankyou
New feeding routine? Any tips of when to use each?
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homebrewer
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Yes people have used it and NOPE, it's not worth the price. Pretty much ANY other food in your hydro store will either be cheaper or perform better.
MOON SHINER
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Homebrewer is right on this. I spent a fortune on AN with ok results, after a switch the difference is night and day.
Read this, it's what changed my mind. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/429438-dyna-gro-vs-advanced-nutrients.html#post5684072
It's a lot to read all the way through but for one who seeks knowledge, this is it!
Read this, it's what changed my mind. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/429438-dyna-gro-vs-advanced-nutrients.html#post5684072
It's a lot to read all the way through but for one who seeks knowledge, this is it!
ScoobyDoobyDoo
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it really isn't that expensive. it's probably 20-30% more potent than most nutes so you end up diluting it more. you can get a liter of sensi grow a&b and bloom a&b for a total of $40. that's pretty cheap. dyna-gro is the stuff a lot of guys on this forum recommend as the "cheap" alternative but it's $35 for the bloom and grow together. not saving much money and you get a simple 1 part nuts that allows for no adjustment based on strain or environment. and advanced always has great deals. right now for $300 you get a gallon parts a&b of sensi grow and bloom plus a liter of 4 of their additives. that's a fantastic price in my book.
proof is in the pics...all grown with advanced.
proof is in the pics...all grown with advanced.
BROBIE
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LOL read your Dyna vs Advanced. Really? This is your experience? Hardly impartial. Sensi is different than Connoisseur by a mile and a rookie should not jump into it like you did. (By rookie I mean a Advanced Nutrient rookie, not your green thumb, to clarify)Try again with Sensi, you will be impressed. By the way, Sensi is very economical. Your statement is so false, but that is your opinion. You state it performs the worse yet a best seller. Really?
homebrewer
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I've asked this question of Sensi users before so I already know the answer but in regards to your hydro grows, how many mls/gal are you using of EACH part?
MOON SHINER
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I suggested reading it man, not Homebrewer. Not sure if I read your post wrong but HB did not recommend anything other than NOT to use AN. It was me that posted the link, and was kinda hinting at dyna gro.
To being the best seller I have this: Its Marketing
"Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need." Chuck Palahniuk
BROBIE
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I know where you are going with this and I will say DG will beat it PPM to ML all day. OK. All I'm saying is AN is economical too. If 4$ differential in price is your dominant determinate of a good or shitty nute ok yes DG wins. I concentrate on other more significant items like lighting then I do $4 difference in a nute base. But I have obtained better results with AN Sensi then I did DG and that is what I am responding to the OP about. I just get the feeling reading your logs that you seem rather biased about the whole thing. Thats all. No hate brother. .
I don't get you post but I was responding to HB's contents of his logs. And I'm responding to HB about his recommendation that anything is cheaper and works better then AN. I have my big boy pants on too and can navigate from marketing hype. Seems you guys are on some kind of crusade against AN. I just don't get it.
If you started a nute company and paid people to post on forums, what threads would you want them posting to? The Ionic thread...no, the Blue planet thread...no, the AN threads...obviously. How often do you see homebrewer on threads that arent related to AN or Dynagro? I happen to be a hetero white male so guess what, I stay off of the gay black male forums for the simple reason that I have no reason to post on it.
kinddiesel
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all bull shit set aside. I use vigra grow from home depot 10 10 10 7 dollars a huge bottle lasts a long time and eddies hydroponics. 30 dollars for a half gallon. for flower 5 55 20. . plants are happy I get over average yields. also add sugar and lemon juice for vitamin c . sugar and vit c put plants into over drive. and helps them stay health in not so good conditions. like if its 100 f. the buds still will be tight and shinny. vit c is very costly in nutrients and they use a such a small amount its a joke. I used to use heavy 16 costly. not happy about the results. im a chemical fert guy. I cant afford those , organic over priced over rated claims.
Not yet, the DYNAGRO reps are good at pm'ing each other and regrouping on a like minded front for the next day. Just let em plug DYNAGRO and make their dime a post and ignore em. If they dont get answered they dont get paid. Let em post and put ur blinders on, fuck em if they cant take a joke.The debate is over.
BROBIE
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It was really e-sarcasm for the post above me. algore style.
MOON SHINER
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Damn guys,
That hurt a little. I'm just a regular guy voicing an opinion. In no way am I "working" for a company to post on forums, hell horticulture is not even my field. I respect what you guys use and some of you have kick ass harvests. That is what this is all about. I don't care what you use or if you like what I use, in the end its the unity of the smoke we are all after....at least that's what I thought.
I'm not an AN hater, I prefer to not even have that word in my vocabulary. Love is what moves me forward and that is the only direction I want to go.
Happy growing all !
That hurt a little. I'm just a regular guy voicing an opinion. In no way am I "working" for a company to post on forums, hell horticulture is not even my field. I respect what you guys use and some of you have kick ass harvests. That is what this is all about. I don't care what you use or if you like what I use, in the end its the unity of the smoke we are all after....at least that's what I thought.
I'm not an AN hater, I prefer to not even have that word in my vocabulary. Love is what moves me forward and that is the only direction I want to go.
Happy growing all !
Lol, im squinting pretty hard, now I gotcha. Yeah I was just commenting on that dudes post on another thread, hes good fun. I dont even know how to post in caps! Hes good fun.lol Hell, its 11:00, 73 degrees, im well medicated and moderately sedated, sometimes I dont get the damn joke!lol
homebrewer
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Comparing AN's Sensi to other plant foods adds up to quite a bit more than just a $4 difference but cost is just the tip of the iceburg. Consider the constant trips to the grow store because Sensi just doesn't last that long. Got two gallons of Sensi and two 20 gallon reservoirs? You can't even go a full flowering cycle without using up both gallons. That's NOT economical.
You fellas are welcome to play the 'it's made for cannabis' card, lets see how it does, post up your journals.
Uncle Ben
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Claiming Advanced Shysters (or any product) is the best is a perfect example of ethnocentrism. I'm not partial to any plant food or fertilizer company. I must have 30 different brands and formulas....from pint bottles up to 50lbs. sacks. One thing I am sure of is the greed and corruption of the cannabis industry, and AN is one of the top dogs. I hate greed and fraud and if AN or any of the other shysters wears those boots, then they have my disdain. I have never, and will never, support the cannabis specific industry.
Liken the effect to politics. I love the presidency, but I hate Obama. Same thing, he's the most corrupt liar-in-chief in all of history.
To each his own, I guess.
Uncle Ben
Uncle Ben
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You can't be serious. What happens with the salts or is it like I've mentioned before, watered down, over priced snake oil? I BET they aren't required by law to post a bonafide GA, Guaranteed Analysis.
Huh? You do know cannabis is from another world, don't you, with special supplemental requirements?
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BROBIE
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If I was growing that much partner I would give 2 shits if I have to buy another gallon. It's the end result. Why did you inject "it's made for cannabis" in there? Never looked at it that way. Is it? 2 gallons of sensi would be more then enough anyways. I don't know where you got that. I have used all kinds of nutes and I settled on FP for veg and Sensi for bloom. If I posted a joiurnal, what would that prove? Scooby has nice piks so where from here? Maybe you're puffing out your chest a bit ?