Name the Place You Can Pay NO Taxes And Receive A Refund..

Doer

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3.8s are way, way more common than they used to be because of rampant grade inflation.
Rampant grade inflation? The curve is the curve, in most places. If not, I would have never gotten my solid C+.

I just looked and I don't see that. Can you, and all, and always provides links for claims?

I wonder where you got that?
 

Doer

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Nothing mystical about accounting, it is merely arcane.

And, the reality is, all these "tricks" are just shuffles. They are temporary and will come back around to you. That is unless you are powerful and spend giant amounts of Lobby $$, like GE does.

Case in point that many will see, is depreciation on rental property. Sure you can select 200% double declining balance for depreciation, but you will give that back later, as a reduction of capital gains.
 

Harrekin

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I understand your point, I really do. I AM working my way through school, and it's tough. Our legislators, who were elected by the people, decided it was worth enacting this credit to invest in college students. Once I'm done with school I'll be in a position to pay taxes for the rest of my life, which will partly fund the same programs that are currently helping me. I will pay back the help that my fellow citizens have given me through their tax dollars, and then some.
I think fully state funded higher education is a better way to do it.

Everyone gets the same opportunity from birth and no one can be called a moocher for it.

But taking money from the public purse to fund SOME people's education in a private system is wrong, it's not equality and therefore I must oppose it. I also disagree with ANYONE receiving funds that they havnt contributed in the form of negative taxation, it's redistribution from those who actually work, plain and simple.
 

Pinworm

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Everyone gets the same opportunity from birth and no one can be called a moocher for it.

I also disagree with ANYONE receiving funds that they havnt contributed in the form of negative taxation, it's redistribution from those who actually work, plain and simple.
I'm a little confused, brother. This sounds a little too similar. If everyone gets the same opportunity, then isn't still redistribution? Forgive my poor grammar. Wake-n-bake-n-bourbon.
 

Harrekin

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I'm a little confused, brother. This sounds a little too similar. If everyone gets the same opportunity, then isn't still redistribution? Forgive my poor grammar. Wake-n-bake-n-bourbon.
It's a different system if people from all classes can avail of a free, state funded higher education.

But if you take money from the middle/upper class to find some people's education in a private system and not others, it's a blatant and unequal redistribution of wealth.

Here anyone can go to any third level institution they want, regardless of how much money they make.

Equal opportunities for all benefits all, selective opportunities only benefits some while robbing from the pockets of the ineligible classes.
 

Pinworm

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It's a different system if people from all classes can avail of a free, state funded higher education.

But if you take money from the middle/upper class to find some people's education in a private system and not others, it's a blatant and unequal redistribution of wealth.

Here anyone can go to any third level institution they want, regardless of how much money they make.

Equal opportunities for all benefits all, selective opportunities only benefits some while robbing from the pockets of the ineligible classes.
Doh. I completely over looked your first sentence, which put into context makes much more sense. Many apologies.
 

tokeprep

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I harass buck a lot.....but you really failed to follow the convo here.
He is not pursuing a degree to my knowledge....he was speaking of his wife.

Do you prep your tokes with raw aluminium?
Actually you're the one not following. "Your" is not referring to Buck but anyone in a graduate program--their work, their grades. I purposely didn't mention his wife because I didn't want it to sound like I was saying something offensive about her when it was a general statement applicable to lots of people.
 

Pinworm

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Community colleges in Florida are allowed to offer four year programs now, so perhaps I should rephrase that: do you attend a state university?
Why is it that even when you are trying to be polite you still sound like a total dick?
 

tokeprep

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Rampant grade inflation? The curve is the curve, in most places. If not, I would have never gotten my solid C+.

I just looked and I don't see that. Can you, and all, and always provides links for claims?

I wonder where you got that?
I already posted a link. I'll post it again: http://www.gradeinflation.com/figure2.gif.

Here's one by athletic conference: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/03/22/business/economy/inflation.jpg.

Here's a chart showing that curve you speak of: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/07/13/business/economy/economix-13gradeinflation/economix-13gradeinflation-custom2.jpg. It's looking a little different these days, isn't it?

In the last 20 years, average GPA has risen substantially. In the last 40 years, average GPA has skyrocketed.
 

BigNBushy

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i'm not interested in stats from your time at devryU. i know from my wife's progress through grad school that C's do not get degrees, they send you home without one.
Nope.

My sister-in-law had a saying, c = MD

My ex wife had a saying, c= PharmD

My ex classmates and I had a saying, c = JD

You could even earn a D while there and you didn't have to repeat the course. There is no federal law that mandates students earn B's or better to graduate. Once you graduate the school, you have to take a state licensing test. Each state has different requirements there.

I am not as familiar with folks who are at universities getting a masters in whatever, I would say that a minimum GPA is required and earning a C one semester in a class will not kill you.

Each individual institution of higher learning has it's own rules, but to say they send you home with a 2.0 GPA is incorrect.
 

tokeprep

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Nothing mystical about accounting, it is merely arcane.

And, the reality is, all these "tricks" are just shuffles. They are temporary and will come back around to you. That is unless you are powerful and spend giant amounts of Lobby $$, like GE does.

Case in point that many will see, is depreciation on rental property. Sure you can select 200% double declining balance for depreciation, but you will give that back later, as a reduction of capital gains.
To be clear, I'm not calling accounting in general mystical. Twostroke and his crackpot tax protestor friends have imagined a fictional accounting system for Federal Reserve Notes and "lawful money" that doesn't actually exist.
 

schuylaar

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Rampant grade inflation? The curve is the curve, in most places. If not, I would have never gotten my solid C+.

I just looked and I don't see that. Can you, and all, and always provides links for claims?

I wonder where you got that?
nice post, doer:clap:
 

schuylaar

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I'm a little confused, brother. This sounds a little too similar. If everyone gets the same opportunity, then isn't still redistribution? Forgive my poor grammar. Wake-n-bake-n-bourbon.
it sure is..1% gets to utilize loopholes instead of paying the taxes they should be paying.

poverty level gets tax credits on school and such because government recognizes that we're not all 1%ers:wink:
 
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