first time grower male of female calyx?

[thecannacove]

I have a friend who drove off a 30 foot cliff, drunk with no seat belt and survived... And he isn't no superman or shit.

There we have it folks, stupid people hangout with other stupid people. And now we know.

 

[Ace Yonder]

so, you can cross a dandelion with cannabis? don't think it works that way man.

Are you really so stupid that you misunderstood what I wrote to this degree? Nothing that I said would lead anyone with a modicum of intelligence to come to this conclusion, you are delusional and/or unbelievably ignorant, please seek education before continuing to engage me in discussion.

 

[BSD0621]

So let me get this straight... Instead of debating with FACTS you resort to name calling in hopes to win a argument? Wow, is this middle school? where are the adults? *facepalm*

 

[Ace Yonder]

So let me get this straight... Instead of debating with FACTS you resort to name calling in hopes to win a argument? Wow, is this middle school? where are the adults? *facepalm*

I started with facts, you ignored them and continued to blather on with unsubstantiated nonsense and bullshit

 

[BSD0621]

Sorry, I didn't realize that some self aggrandizing forum kid had one experience that seems to him to be slightly outside the norm, lets re-write the biology books!! Your sample size is totally large enough to "debunk" years and years of research and observation, and two plants "showing nothing" is TOTALLY the same thing as definitely being males and proving that males show later!! How has horticulture survived without you!?!?!?!?!

I fail to see any facts in there... Links? Sources?

 

[Ace Yonder]

I fail to see any facts in there... Links? Sources?

A few things. First, I said STARTED with facts and you pulled my THIRD post, which was actually a response (replete with the sarcasm you claim to be so well versed in) to your unsubstantiated drivel (as I said before). If you would like a refresher, I took the liberty of quoting the facts that I STARTED with, complete with the sources that you somehow failed to see.

Actually he was right. Males do usually show sex first, about 1-2 weeks earlier in fact.
"If you start with a female clone or feminized seeds, you don't need to worry about male plants. However, if you've just found seeds, or purchased unfeminized seeds, about half of the resulting plants will be male. Male plants generally show the first signs of pollen sacs 1-2 weeks before the female plant shows it's first signs of white hairs." (http://www.growweedeasy.com/what-is-the-difference-between-a-male-and-female-marijuana-plant)

"FloweringMale Plant
Under natural light, males usually start to flower from one to four weeks before the females. Where the photoperiod is artificially controlled, as with electric lights, males respond quickly (in about a week) to a change to short photoperiods and usually show flowers sooner than the females." (http://www.lycaeum.org/~sky/data/grow/c17.html)

 

[Ace Yonder]

I could point you to multiple sources that say otherwise. MALE POLLEN SACKS POP OPEN FROM 12 HOURS to a WEEK AFTER THEY ARE FORMED!! jesus.. do you guys eve grow and look at this shit or just parrot off one another?

Now lets see your sources, if you have any. So far I started with cited sources, you CLAIMED you had your own, then asked to see mine again. Well I've given you mine twice, lets see yours. Oh wait.... you don't have any, just silly anecdotes based on your supposed (and admittedly limited) experience

 

[Ace Yonder]

I fail to see any facts in there... Links? Sources?

Actually since you asked for sources on a post where I stated as a fact that you are self aggrandizing, let me give you sources. I present exhibits

A)

I got 4 plants currently... 2 have shown signs of FEMALE while the other is showing NOTHING. yeah, real life experience here saying the claims that males show pre flowers first is hog wash and therefor debunked with my own 2 eyes. it's ok, a lot of things are wrong with the info that is put out there... Just a lot of people don't care to do the research themselves first hand

B)

I just checked and the last 2 are starting to look male... They are all the same strain and all fed the same, planted in soil at the same time.. so, books don't tell you everything truthful then

and
C)

if you know my history you'd be surprised. who's to say I wasn't one of the pot pioneers that started a wonderful revolution? huh?

Now here's the kicker. Let me state another fact. You are uninformed, and unintelligent, and you can't even represent yourself consistently. Before you pester me for sources, I'll go ahead and offer them. Here are some examples of you contradicting yourself, belying your nature.

BSD on books:

I just checked and the last 2 are starting to look male... They are all the same strain and all fed the same, planted in soil at the same time.. so, books don't tell you everything truthful then

vs

those look FUCKED beyond repair.. Time to read some books

BSD on pH:
(From https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/788647-brown-rust-colored-spots-getting.html#post10127798 a post about Brown Rust Spots on Leaves)

It is a ph issue. The fluctuation causes that in the leafs. I have never had this issues but all the sign's point to it. So you ph your water when you aren't feeding?

vs
(From https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/788963-orange-rust-coloured-leaves-s-3.html#post10131131 a post about Orange Rust Colored Leaves)

Umm #1 HOW is it a PH problem?

#2 I never used a ph meter... am I the %2? Wow, I must be a pro grower then!

BSD on Relative Humidity:

I have learned humidity levels don't really mean much in VEG. HOWEVER temps do to a point.

vs
(about a plant in VEG in the rust colored leaves thread)

Also, the yellowing of the leafs at the BOTTOM of them plant show lack of nitrogen. Focus on raising the RH and all the rest will correct.

BSD on "mis information"(sic)

I am not one to spread mis information.. unlike "others"

and yet...

Hey noobs, 23-26 watt CLF's are better as the produce more lumen per watt... Ditch those big cfl's noobs

(http://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/nlpip/lightinganswers/hwcfl/HWCFL-efficacy.asp Check out this link for proof to the contrary, High Wattage CFLs have measurably high efficacy to low wattage CFLs, as well as higher intensity, greater penetration, and a greater effective range)

 

[BSD0621]

So here is proof males are last to show sex..
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/767204-jungle-wreck-htg-supply-2-a-7.html#post10187800

As I suspected #1 was a male. Damn, those old growers were WRONG! ;(

 

[BSD0621]

While ace yonder pull's their hair out I just debunked decades of "scientific research". Start crying. I will get the tissues

 

[Ace Yonder]

So here is proof males are last to show sex..
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/767204-jungle-wreck-htg-supply-2-a-7.html#post10187800

As I suspected #1 was a male. Damn, those old growers were WRONG! ;(

One post, BY YOU, with pics BY YOU, is your proof? This is your source? This proves nothing kid

 

[BSD0621]

Now lets see your sources, if you have any. So far I started with cited sources, you CLAIMED you had your own, then asked to see mine again. Well I've given you mine twice, lets see yours. Oh wait.... you don't have any, just silly anecdotes based on your supposed (and admittedly limited) experience

again, you obviously lack a sense of humor...

read the post above this one. I'll get the tissues

 

[Ace Yonder]

While ace yonder pull's their hair out I just debunked decades of "scientific research". Start crying. I will get the tissues

The level of hubris required for you to believe that your single experience is somehow enough to "Debunk decades of research" is incredible. You are delusional. Seek serious help.

 

[BSD0621]

One post, BY YOU, with pics BY YOU, is your proof? This is your source? This proves nothing kid

I am done with trying to debate with you as you are now just starting to enter the "creepy stalker" territory. Plus, you cannot accept defeat. It's cool. We know who is in middle school and who graduated long ago...

 

[Ace Yonder]

I am done with trying to debate with you as you are now just starting to enter the "creepy stalker" territory. Plus, you cannot accept defeat. It's cool. We know who is in middle school and who graduated long ago...

Actually I didn't know you were still in middle school, although that certainly makes sense. Don't drop out.

 

[Dunbar Santiago]

God, what a mess of a thread. There is no definitive answer which shows sex sooner. With ALL strains/phenos, some males show sooner, some later. The same goes for females. Wtf is all the arguing for? Neither side is right or wrong, it's a crapshoot.

 

[BSD0621]

The level of hubris required for you to believe that your single experience is somehow enough to "Debunk decades of research" is incredible. You are delusional. Seek serious help.

Oh so since when do i have a single experience? Just based off one alias on a forum? You REALLY need to step outside of your bubble more. And stop projecting, saying silly thing. Did you take your meds? I just PROVED that males show sex AFTER females and yet, you cannot accept that. Maybe, just maybe I know from long term experience? Maybe... Just don't assume since I have this alias on this forum which is fairly new i'm a "newbie" because that's a shitty way to package things, know what I mean? So, just ACCEPT things are wrong and NOTHING it set in stone... I have. I'm also not too concerned with someone trying their hardest to disprove the facts you just witnessed. It's ok man. We all start somewhere. to the OP, I hope I have showed you something that is NOT in the books. I also have A LOT more tricks up my sleeve's with a loooooong ass time of experience. Sadly, OG is not around any more to prove it.

 

[BSD0621]

God, what a mess of a thread. There is no definitive answer which shows sex sooner. With ALL strains some males show sooner, some later. The same goes for females. Wtf is all the arguing for? Neither side is right or wrong, it's a crapshoot.

Right for the most part. But in my experience, and don't rely on this alias as it is new, males show after females.

 

[Dunbar Santiago]

So here is proof males are last to show sex..
https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-fluorescent-lighting/767204-jungle-wreck-htg-supply-2-a-7.html#post10187800

As I suspected #1 was a male. Damn, those old growers were WRONG! ;(

Dude, how do you keep your thumb nails so short? It looks painful. lol


On topic: In my experience which spans about 16 years, it's a tossup. Same as preflowers. Some show a few weeks from seed, some don't show until you've been taking cuttings for 8+ months, some never.

 

[Ace Yonder]

Oh so since when do i have a single experience? Just based off one alias on a forum? You REALLY need to step outside of your bubble more. And stop projecting, saying silly thing. Did you take your meds? I just PROVED that males show sex AFTER females and yet, you cannot accept that. Maybe, just maybe I know from long term experience? Maybe... Just don't assume since I have this alias on this forum which is fairly new i'm a "newbie" because that's a shitty way to package things, know what I mean? So, just ACCEPT things are wrong and NOTHING it set in stone... I have. I'm also not too concerned with someone trying their hardest to disprove the facts you just witnessed. It's ok man. We all start somewhere. to the OP, I hope I have showed you something that is NOT in the books. I also have A LOT more tricks up my sleeve's with a loooooong ass time of experience. Sadly, OG is not around any more to prove it.

I know it is one experience because by your own admission it is one male showing sex after the females. That does not prove that ALL males show sex after females, your experience is NOT indicative of the norm. And I know you don't have years of experience AGAIN because of your own admission.

Hey all. this is my second go at growing, first time indoors!

I JUST got my beans!
I got 11 jungle Wreck regular seeds and 2 Northern Lights regular seeds. I will be germinating around 5 Jungle Wreck seeds VIA the paper towel method (have had great success with this over popping a seed in soil) and then placing them in 16oz party cups with epsoma organic potting mix. NO NUTES until at least 3 set of fan leafs! Need to pick some up in a few days.

going to get this set up right now

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Remember posting that? That was less than 2 months ago. Are you telling me you compiled years of experience in two months?? Did you discover a hyperbolic time chamber??? A TESSERACT!?!?!?!?!