Gay wedding cakes and the bigots who won't bake them.

[Beefbisquit]

Where does one draw the line between having an opinion and being a discriminatory asshole?

Having an opinion would be 'I don't like gay people, I think it's wrong', being a discriminatory asshole is 'I'm not going to serve those people because of their beliefs'.

See the difference? One is an opinion, the other is willfully negating to perform an action based on their beliefs.

What's to stop people from serving anyone but white people? Or black people?

It's just a new type of segregation.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Where does one draw the line between having an opinion and being a discriminatory asshole?

Having an opinion would be 'I don't like gay people, I think it's wrong', being a discriminatory asshole is 'I'm not going to serve those people because of their beliefs'.

See the difference? One is an opinion, the other is willfully negating to perform an action based on their beliefs.

What's to stop people from serving anyone but white people? Or black people?

It's just a new type of segregation.

What about forcing doctors and nurses to prescribe medicines or perform abortions? If a patient thinks they need it, but you disagree with serving them based on moral objection? Is that a discriminatory action?

 

[kpmarine]

What about forcing doctors and nurses to prescribe medicines or perform abortions? If a patient thinks they need it, but you disagree with serving them based on moral objection? Is that a discriminatory action?

If you don't like performing medical procedures, then perhaps a medical profession was a poor choice.

 

[kpmarine]

He was spamming a copy and paste to a christian family group. I saw it before he deleted, but he deleted before the quote stuck. in regard to that bullshit "'snitches get stitches" mentality, if he wanted to hook me up with some stitches, then that would have been a fun time. I enjoy a sporting fight. I feel no desire to get someone arrested for posting something that doesn't involve people who aren't consenting or something else clearly fucked up.

I have a mixed issue with child molesters though. My initial urge is brain surgery with a .45, but my reasoning tells me they are just fucked up individuals deserving of the same treatment as anyone else with a mental issue.

Can a man get a response after dedicating that much time to it?

 

[schuylaar]

What about forcing doctors and nurses to prescribe medicines or perform abortions? If a patient thinks they need it, but you disagree with serving them based on moral objection? Is that a discriminatory action?

no one forces anyone to do anything in the medical community..in fact, it's just the opposite when you have to beg for meds and i'm not talking about scheduled drugs either.

 

[schuylaar]

Can a man get a response after dedicating that much time to it?

stop the trolling and maybe he will.

 

[kpmarine]

stop the trolling and maybe he will.

Really? I'm the troll here? Please explain.

 

[NLXSK1]

If you don't like performing medical procedures, then perhaps a medical profession was a poor choice.

I guess every profession is a poor choice then as the government seems to be able to force people to do things against their religion (despite the first amendment) if they dare attempt to work for a living...

If you lay around and collect welfare you are not subject to these sanctions however... OBAMANATION!!!

 

[kpmarine]

I guess every profession is a poor choice then as the government seems to be able to force people to do things against their religion (despite the first amendment) if they dare attempt to work for a living...

If you lay around and collect welfare you are not subject to these sanctions however... OBAMANATION!!!

Don't you still have an explanation of how 3/5 of a person who can't vote beats 0/5 of a person who can't vote due?

 

[NLXSK1]

Don't you still have an explanation of how 3/5 of a person who can't vote beats 0/5 of a person who can't vote due?

Yes but you dont understand it.

You troll an awful lot like uncle buck....

 

[kpmarine]

Yes but you dont understand it.

You troll an awful lot like uncle buck....

Does buck understand the fact that 3/5 is more than 0 too? If it wasn't so simple that my Labrador could tap it out, then you might get some leeway.

 

[Beefbisquit]

What about forcing doctors and nurses to prescribe medicines or perform abortions? If a patient thinks they need it, but you disagree with serving them based on moral objection? Is that a discriminatory action?

A patient isn't equipped to diagnose themselves.

 

[white1340]

Reminds me of something I read. Gay relationships are very much in common with smoking marijuana. The Bible says "if a man lays with another man then he must be stoned." Im probably opening up a can of worms here but being old fashioned as I am and not a religious person or bible pounder but I feel that homosexuliately is a form of being mentially handicap. Right up there with downsyndrome. Any flammer will tell you that it is not their fault for being that way because they were born with it and that is just the way they are, and my beliefs are because it is a form of handicap. I am not a hater so before any of you homos get your panties in a bunch, it is simply my freedom of speech and the way I feel about the topic. I get it though, gays can't help they way they are, but the problem that I have is how they turn on, and turn off their flamming tendencies as they see fit. For example a homo in the military can change their colors to be undetected but that same person goes out to a bar while on leave and the flame comes out big time, kind of like a mating call. No wonder they get their heads beat in.

 

[kpmarine]

Reminds me of something I read. Gay relationships are very much in common with smoking marijuana. The Bible says "if a man lays with another man then he must be stoned." Im probably opening up a can of worms here but being old fashioned as I am and not a religious person or bible pounder but I feel that homosexuliately is a form of being mentially handicap. Right up there with downsyndrome. Any flammer will tell you that it is not their fault for being that way because they were born with it and that is just the way they are, and my beliefs are because it is a form of handicap. I am not a hater so before any of you homos get your panties in a bunch, it is simply my freedom of speech and the way I feel about the topic. I get it though, gays can't help they way they are, but the problem that I have is how they turn on, and turn off their flamming tendencies as they see fit. For example a homo in the military can change their colors to be undetected but that same person goes out to a bar while on leave and the flame comes out big time, kind of like a mating call. No wonder they get their heads beat in.

Spoken like a guy who has never been in the military.

 

[NLXSK1]

Does buck understand the fact that 3/5 is more than 0 too? If it wasn't so simple that my Labrador could tap it out, then you might get some leeway.

It is that 3/5ths is less than 1 and therein lies the compromise and incentive for more people to be free. Feel free to continue to ignore this fact as it proves your 3/5's comment to be factually incorrect. I also notice that you did not address that you said blacks get 3/5's of a vote which simply is not correct. But hey, I cant expect you to be a man so I have to deal with this bullshit...

 

[kpmarine]

It is that 3/5ths is less than 1 and therein lies the compromise and incentive for more people to be free. Feel free to continue to ignore this fact as it proves your 3/5's comment to be factually incorrect. I also notice that you did not address that you said blacks get 3/5's of a vote which simply is not correct. But hey, I cant expect you to be a man so I have to deal with this bullshit...

Slaves were counted as 0 for the purposes of representation based on population prior to the 3/5 compromise. The compromise was to count them as 3/5 instead of 1 for the sake of the House of representation. Anyone who didn't sleep through a high school history class knows this... Please quote where I said slaves got 3/5 of the vote. I'll gladly revise that statement.

 

[NLXSK1]

Slaves were counted as 0 for the purposes of representation based on population prior to the 3/5 compromise. The compromise was to count them as 3/5 instead of 1 for the sake of the House of representation. Anyone who didn't sleep through a high school history class knows this... Please quote where I said slaves got 3/5 of the vote. I'll gladly revise that statement.

So there was a compromise. Why was there a compromise? You might have not thought this all the way through...

 

[Wilksey]

 

[kpmarine]

So there was a compromise. Why was there a compromise? You might have not thought this all the way through...

For around the third time; there was a compromise because the southern states wanted slaves to count as a whole person.

Since I'm done with your ill-informed arguments: "But by giving the South power disproportionate to its free population, the three-fifths clause set the stage for Southern control of the federal government and, in conjunction with a difficult amendment process, guaranteed a continuation of slavery."http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/02/26/the-constitutions-immoral-compromise/the-union-wasnt-worth-the-three-fifths-compromise-on-slavery

Here's the wording of the amendment: "Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.".

Clearly the only people who benefited was the slaveholders. You done being deliberately obtuse?

 

[schuylaar]

+reppppppppp