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UncleBuck

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How does he lose credibility?

The difference between a volitional act and a coerced one become small when that act happen to be required.
if it was something he was gonna do anyway that just happened to be required, then he wasn't "coerced" into doing anything.

he has clearly come out as a white supremacist who has to be coerced into not denying service to blacks because of their skin color alone. he even says he has lost his freedom because of this (hypothetically, at least, since he is a scumbag thief trailer trash and not a store owner).
 

DonAlejandroVega

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if it was something he was gonna do anyway that just happened to be required, then he wasn't "coerced" into doing anything.

he has clearly come out as a white supremacist who has to be coerced into not denying service to blacks because of their skin color alone. he even says he has lost his freedom because of this (hypothetically, at least, since he is a scumbag thief trailer trash and not a store owner).
that's right. you Mud People are ruining everything :)

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WORDZofWORDZCRAFT

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IMA OPEN UP A QUAINT LITTLE SHOPPE THAT ONLY SELLS CAKS TO GAYS AND WEAVES TO BLACKS AND ALL THE WIGGERZ ARE GONNA THINK ITS SO COOL SO THEY ARE GONNA BE STUFFING THERE MOUFS WITH CAKS AND GETTING THEY WEAVE DID SO THEY CAN BE DOWN WITH THE BROTHAS
 

DonAlejandroVega

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if it was something he was gonna do anyway that just happened to be required, then he wasn't "coerced" into doing anything.

he has clearly come out as a white supremacist who has to be coerced into not denying service to blacks because of their skin color alone. he even says he has lost his freedom because of this (hypothetically, at least, since he is a scumbag thief trailer trash and not a store owner).
ya, know..............I detect some hostility here :)
 

SmokeyDan

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if it was something he was gonna do anyway that just happened to be required, then he wasn't "coerced" into doing anything.

he has clearly come out as a white supremacist who has to be coerced into not denying service to blacks because of their skin color alone. he even says he has lost his freedom because of this (hypothetically, at least, since he is a scumbag thief trailer trash and not a store owner).
If you can tell all of this from just a few statements, you should open a psychic hotline.
 

SmokeyDan

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just joined today and already hopping right into politics.

yep. legit.
I came here specifically for political reasons. I made several posts in other sections.

They did not get much action.

I do enjoy politics. And this sub forum seems to be where the action is.

I have no interest in growing. Only helping my state go legal.
 

UncleBuck

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I came here specifically for political reasons. I made several posts in other sections.

They did not get much action.

I do enjoy politics. And this sub forum seems to be where the action is.

I have no interest in growing. Only helping my state go legal.
you came in here and right away started defending denial of service to gays, totally botching the concept of civil rights along the way. then you got to work defending the guy who calls civil rights coercion that makes him unfree.

you are an idiot, this much is apparent in two posts of yours. probably a sock puppet too.
 

SmokeyDan

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you came in here and right away started defending denial of service to gays, totally botching the concept of civil rights along the way. then you got to work defending the guy who calls civil rights coercion that makes him unfree.

you are an idiot, this much is apparent in two posts of yours. probably a sock puppet too.
No, you couldn't be more wrong.

I joined this site and introduced my self.... One person responded.

I then moved to another area and read a lot. Not a lot of new posts going on.

I went to sports and talked about the FIFA world cup.... no new replies in hours.

I came in here, expressed one opinion and i had 7 alerts rapidly..... This is where the action is apparently.

And i did no such thing as advocate denial of services to gays. I don't think I gave a personal opinion.

My point was that you equated it go segregation and Jim Crow.

I'm sorry, but Adam and Steve stumbling into the one bakery in Phoenix that won't put two dudes on a wedding cake top is not one percent as bad as what blacks went through.

Firstly, gays can just not tell someone they're gay to avoid discrimination. Some people say this is bad, because they have to hide who they are. I see that point, but this option wasn't available to blacks, and I'm sure they would have used the cloak of anonymity if they could have while fighting for full acceptance.

I don't think that gays are bad. I have no ill will toward them.

But they're are plenty of gay bakers, and straight bakers who don't care.

This was nothing more than a momentary inconvenience to this gay couple, and you equate it to a life time of oppression suffered by blacks, simply for political gain.

The only groups of people in modern times who you can compare to blacks without disparaging their struggle is Jews in Nazi Germany and Native Americans. Those groups had it far worse.
 

UncleBuck

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gays can just not tell someone they're gay to avoid discrimination.
that should be no problem when they need a cake or a florist or a photographer for their GAY WEDDING CEREMONY.

you are so smart.

if only you were around 50 years ago, the blacks would have known to just paint themselves white.

fuck, you could have solved slavery with a few million gallons of primer.

you sir, are a fucking genius. even for sock puppet standards.
 

sheskunk

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you came in here and right away started defending denial of service to gays, totally botching the concept of civil rights along the way. then you got to work defending the guy who calls civil rights coercion that makes him unfree.

you are an idiot, this much is apparent in two posts of yours. probably a sock puppet too.

So what if he is. You a COP or something?
 

SmokeyDan

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that should be no problem when they need a cake or a florist or a photographer for their GAY WEDDING CEREMONY.

you are so smart.

if only you were around 50 years ago, the blacks would have known to just paint themselves white.

fuck, you could have solved slavery with a few million gallons of primer.

you sir, are a fucking genius. even for sock puppet standards.
So you don't think there are any gays that provide those services?

You don't think the majority of straight business owners would gladly perform these services for their normal fee?

You're either retarded or manipulative.

You were either too stupid to see I was talking about anonymity for getting and keeping their jobs, being allowed to eat inside of the restaurant, being able to set in the decent seats at a movie theater, and getting to go to the decent school in town?

And of course you could just have a cake with no top ornament.

You could just not tell the florist to send the gay flowers.

Not sure how you get past the photographer, but plenty of gay people have good cameras also.

You're the type that will never let the truth or reality get in the way of proving your point.

The portion of businesses out there that would even consider refusing their services to someone because the customer is gay is infinitesimal.

In the 1920's when literally everyone white refused to service blacks it caused severe harm, compounded by the fact that those with the ability to provide the services were almost exclusively white.

Today, with gays, only a small minority of non gays would deny them, this is mitigated by the existence of homosexual business owners, since unlike blacks in 1934, there are no hurtles or road blocks to gays owning property and opening bank accounts.

If a gay couple happens to call one of the photographers who would refuse to service them, it is but another phone call away from finding one who will.

The main difference is this, currently those who refuse to service gays are not only a minority, but the law is silent. Not only did blacks face a world where they had no place to go in and enjoy a decent meal, it wasn't a prejudiced owner impending them, it was state law forbidding them from getting that service.

Yes, civil rights for gays is the main issue in 2014. If nothing else, it is a sign of how far we've come.

If I were to make an analogy, to building a house, ending slavery and establishing full legal and civil equality to blacks was like laying the exterior brick, hanging the sheet rock, finishing the carpentry work inside, wiring the appliances and amenities, and putting the roof on.

Giving gays what they are seeking, which I will say needs to be done, is more akin to choosing the silver ware and bed sheets to make the house a home.

It's like curing the beast cancer (the blacks struggle) and then the recovering woman seeks to get her dandruff under control.

It ought to be done, but it is a false analogy and pales in comparison.
 

sheskunk

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Why is there never any talk of what women have gone through? To this day they are still discriminated against. Probably more than any other group of people. It's ok though, we're just women.
 
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