Quantum Kush 38% THC?
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coppershot
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Stow I think he was just pulling your leg a bit and having some fun. no biggie!!
TonightYou
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I'm not a Canadian and I only see what pops up on the CBC or BBC so I'm limited in local information. Besides those who live something can best describe it, other wise it's simply conjecture.
Just seemed like Canadians had it better off from my understanding. From what I understood if Canadians had medical cannabis, they were allowed options and home growing was permitted. Canadians had a pretty good setup. Then the setup came to those who could afford really high priced licenses fees, where the prices were predict to (and did from my readings) go up for patients that had to register with a seller. Anyone home growing was suppose to shut down by a certain date. You polite Canadians haven't inherited our fucked up enforcement tactics yet?
coppershot
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you are pretty much bang on. the other thing that I would like to add, is that Health Canada was going to pass the records of who was legally approved to grow over to the authorities and "routine spot checks" after April 1. Everything is on hold in the courts pending a decision. From my experience, our overall laws are less punitive and enforced (if growing small) but I think that the USA is more progressive and advancing the entire decriminalization/legalization subject, at least in North America. Major advancements are being made in South and potentially Central America.
Mr.Head
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Which is why I will never be part of the system. I think it's got some huge issues with it and having everyone on some nazi-esque register for future persecution is one of the big ones to me.
This same government got rid of the gun registry.
TonightYou
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Just be thankful you don't have no knock warrants, baby's that get burnt by flash bangs, innocent people shot, or your dog (unless of course you have that shit happen in which case, man it sucks).
TonightYou
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See that was my first concern with our medical, and with our states courts being political in nature, it just takes an off year for a bunch of right wing nut jobs to fuck shit up. But as long as there is consensus on things, courts tend to be pursued by public opinion (elected judges everyone! )
TonightYou
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Besides, I love Canada and Canadians. Growing up on the border, I've been lucky enough to enjoy Toronto, Ontario, Windsor, plus camping in the Pinery, I really dig the place. Kinda jealous as a friend of mine may be getting citizenship and he's stoked to have the chance.Stow I think he was just pulling your leg a bit and having some fun. no biggie!!
coppershot
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I completely agree. that is a major deterrent, not to mention the scrutiny doctors and potentially pharmacist will soon face for administering the medicine. the system is a joke.
coppershot
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yeh there was a recent poll where over two thirds of those who participated (random selection) supported decriminalization with at least one third supporting full legalization. I firmly believe that the winds of change are upon us (and the USA) and hopefully soon we will have the appropriate changes to our laws.... perhaps wishful thinking but I am hooping..
coppershot
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I also grew up in southern Ontario. relocated out west for work about 6 years ago. both countries have a lot to offer, both great places. I thought you might be have a bit of fun based on the other thread. wow this thread really changed directions. sorry OP!
TonightYou
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Lol threads wax and wane in topics. I'm sure I could Google this but are judges elected in Canada? From a Federal level, down to the providence? I thought they were appointed.
Amos Otis
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Maybe - maybe not. There's a major pushback against pot in the U S, led prominently by Bill O'Reilly [ FoxNews - The O'Reilly Factor ]. Tune in tonight as he says they'll show documented evidence that criminal pot 'gangs' are stronger now in CO than before the legal changes there. He's been on this soapbox for months. I'm a regular viewer, and agree with some points of view / disagree on others. But he's yet to go on an anti-pot rant where I didn't have a lit joint or some vapor flowing in. Really adds to the entertainment 'factor'.
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TonightYou
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Best thing I ever dig was get rid of cable. I hate watched him. The man is a dunce. All he does is provide a new scare for the old white people that regularly watch his uninformed, blowhard commentary (that's putting it kindly).Maybe - maybe not. There's a major pushback against pot in the U S, led prominently by Bill O'Reilly [ FoxNews - The O'Reilly Factor ]. Tune in tonight as he says they'll show documented evidence that criminal pot 'gangs' are stronger now in CO than before the legal changes there. He's been on this soapbox for months. I'm a regular viewer, and agree with some points of view / disagree on others. But he's yet to go on an anti-pot rant where I didn't have a lit joint or some vapor flowing in. Really adds to the entertainment 'factor'.
But thanks for the heads up, I love a good laugh from the uninformed.
Amos Otis
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No offense, amigo, but
.Other than the weed 'factor', I find him pretty much on point on most issues, even if overbearing. I appreciate opinion based on facts, rather than ideology.
But rather than go down that debate, which will never win over either of us to the other's pov......what would it take for you to be concerned/'scared' with the state of the country in regards to it's commitment to provide for the security and common good of it's citizens. Other than the weed factor.
I'm not looking for an argument here....just curious. No hostilities implied.
TonightYou
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No offense taken my friend. I enjoy a good political conversation, and to be honest I think at the end of the day, both sides of the political aisle care about this country and have authentic concerns. Casting one side as the idiot or careless is disingenuous and really only serves to shut down conversation.No offense, amigo, but
Other than the weed 'factor', I find him pretty much on point on most issues, even if overbearing. I appreciate opinion based on facts, rather than ideology.
But rather than go down that debate, which will never win over either of us to the other's pov......what would it take for you to be concerned/'scared' with the state of the country in regards to it's commitment to provide for the security and common good of it's citizens. Other than the weed factor.
I'm not looking for an argument here....just curious. No hostilities implied.
Take for instance the recent report that spoke about how the Reinvestment and Recovery Act was useful I bringing back the US economy. People like Bill O'Reilly slammed that up, down, left, right and sideways when it was passed as "wasteful spending", ignoring the fact that market collapses can happen when private demand falls (which it did) and the government being a "buyer" of last resort (which can be in the way of stimulus a la Bush tax cuts, or doing a variety of government purchasing, to public works...you get the point).
Furthermore when the act was being passed, liberal, note not Democrats, Economist stated that the spending wasnt enough. That it would take years to reverse the losses and we'd have sluggish growth and high unemployment (still do) for many years to come. These liberal economist and a few Democrats suggested we spent more to speed up the process. In that same CBO report, that point was stated again. If we'd spent more, we'd have lower unemployment 6 years after the crash and higher growth sooner.
That's just an easy, not too political thing to point criticism at O'Reilly and his ilk.
I wouldn't say someone couldn't change my mind. NY mind is always changing with new information and better arguments. Recently I was reading about the arguments for lower corporate tax rates, something I previously thought otherwise of. Yet the arguments were well laid out, made sense from an economic as well as in practice sense.
I've got friends and family on all sides of different aisles. I'd like to think I'm not creating my own echo chamber and always enjoy a civil debate of ideas, even those I may disagree with.
I don't think the country is in dire trouble, we have things we need to do and I think many of us care and want to see similar change. We are often more in agreement than in disagreement. It's simply easier to see the difference while ignoring the 90% of things we care about in general.
TonightYou
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Just to add, obviously I identify as Social Democrat, more in line with the left spectrum of European political parties. To be honest, I don't think there are too many differences between R and D in many different areas of concern. A Bernie Sanders is more my cup of tea here.
Also I take issue with our for profit media. It's not about actual news, it's about selling advertising. That tends to create sensationalism and personalities that are best at attracting audiences again to simply sell ad space.
Much more of a fan of BBC, CBC, NPR, PRI, AL Jazeera and independent news organizations. Plus I love reading. Much more likely to read from peer reviewed or non bias sources when possible.
Also I take issue with our for profit media. It's not about actual news, it's about selling advertising. That tends to create sensationalism and personalities that are best at attracting audiences again to simply sell ad space.
Much more of a fan of BBC, CBC, NPR, PRI, AL Jazeera and independent news organizations. Plus I love reading. Much more likely to read from peer reviewed or non bias sources when possible.
Amos Otis
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Props for civility, TY.
But [my opinion, not O'reilly] an economic recovery that adds to a now 20 trillion dollar debt is a mirage; it's rosy sunglasses for the populace of 'believers'. It's a nice temporary slight of hand to take people's focus off the not-so tranquil elephant in the room.
Your 1st reply is mostly one issue - one that has occupied only a few O'Reilly segments. On a nightly basis [these days], the segments focus on [ in any given order] government scandals and corruption, growing world chaos and Obama's policies of retreating and non-engagement, a weakened military vs emboldened enemies, an open flow of millions of new alien dependent children that immediately go on the already maxxed out social services dole, an educational system that's overwhelmed to the point of giving up. [2 of my best friends work in an area high school...I get 1st hand reports often], the slaughtering of Christians by the newest/baddest Islamic sub-humans, the near abandonment by the U.S. of an ally defending it's population........and such.
I'm not an O'Reilly flag-waver, btw - his is just the show that came up. But as I said, on most issues not weed related, I think he's pretty much spot on, and in line with many others' opinions who you would also likely 'hate' if I listed them...
.I think a majority of the population of the country prefers to stay uninformed. If their paycheck [or welfare] check doesn't bounce, and if they look out their windows and don't see armed jihadists slaughtering their neighbors, they're good. And they're surely more happy than the troubled. Today.
There was a spat not long ago on RIU that didn't involve me. No, really. But it was a typical one guy was threatening to 'pay a visit' to another guy, and I think it was you that commented that it was nothing to take seriously...and I agreed. However, that still doesn't mean that on the rare case it does happen, that a man should leave himself vulnerable. Unprepared. I believe the threats to our populace's way of life are very real. One successful attack on a power grid.....or the dollar crashing.....and you best hope you made plans to protect yourself against your neighbors, who failed to prepare while watching Dancing With the Stars.
Okay...I'm a bit stoned ....but you probably have a good idea where I disagree.
coppershot
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sorry I was at work all day and do not get on here to respond. our judges are appointed, at least the federal level. I am thankful that I haven't ever had to face a judge outside of a professional capacity as a subject matter expert.
coppershot
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I very much enjoyed the conversation TonightYou and Amos were having. agree to disagree yet positive without any negative banter. good on both of you.