budman111
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Same here, My grow A&B's NPK ratio is: 6-1-6 and bloom is 6-2-8, not much of a difference enough to buy bloom foods.
giving defoliation during flower a try
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jacksthc
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double my yield lol I wish, pulling 4 oz's off a small plant was good by anyone's stranded, these clones/plants often looks unhealthy but yields loads of bud
other plants I have grow in the past look really healthy from early veg till late flower, got a large bag of green healthy leaves and yield was OK but I was unhappy and having green leaves on a plant ready to harvest, don't know why but the taste was a little more hash, maybe some nutes still left in the plant, still not sure
so I like the leaves going yellow/brown in the last few days of flower as the smokes a lot smother
untrained plants/sog don't need any leaves to be removed but when you start topping a few times and lst the plant, you need to remove a few leaves/ shoots so you can improve airflow in the canopy
and it reduces the chance of bud rot and bugs
also by removing a few fan leaves I can control the way a plant grows, just like main-lining you just remove unwanted fan leaves at the right time
just don't get why you can't accepted this ?
jacksthc
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I pull some leaves off in veg, reduced the nutes in the last week of flower, this pic was taken just before harvesting the plant, I like to make sure there no nutes left in the plant
FrozenChozen
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what a dumb shit....
Uncle Ben
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You're not getting this. You drank the cannabis fools Kool-aid and not learned its leaves that produce yields, not bloom foods.
You use whatever it takes to maintain a health canopy of leaves until harvest. Bloom nutes are made for the producer's profit margin, not the customer. They really don't care. Now, if one of the big cannabis shysters did a 5-2-4 with micros and called it a "Bloom nute" I'd be OK with it.
UB
RL420
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I was reading some study done 20 years ago the other day and it basically concluded that fertilizer with high N produced more abundant flowers, larger flowers and healthier ones compared to low N or zero N fertilizers, ill try and find it because I'm with ya on this one for sure and its a good read.
http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/agriculture/issues/tar-11-35-6/tar-35-6-9-1005-995.pdf
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jacksthc
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hate to say it but UB right about this, that's why most garden centers sell nutes like Levington Tomorite feed,
if you ask for a bloom nutes they have no ideal what your taking about
I heard a lot of growers use Levington Tomorite feed from start to finish and they pull some good crops, (4-3-8 )
jacksthc
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you often jump on members thread and say things like this ?
are you a little kid waiting for some attention, you know where the door is, come back when your balls drop....
FrozenChozen
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you're ignorantly claiming that plants without leaves grow bigger and better flowers... AND to top it off, arguing with someone (@Uncle Ben ) who has devoted tons of their time to something YOU are just fooling around with....
Do battery banks (ie. Cannabis Plants) collect the suns rays and turn them into usable energy without solar panels (Leaves)?
....
To an extent defoliation works, but it is genetics, environment, and timing that are key to doing it correctly.
And FYI I rarely jump on other peoples threads to tell them they're ignorant, I just couldn't help myself here though. If its an argument that you're looking for, head over to the long winded "To defoliate or not" thread I'm sure you can find some more dumb shits that will agree with you about how plants grow better with no leaves...
Do battery banks (ie. Cannabis Plants) collect the suns rays and turn them into usable energy without solar panels (Leaves)?
....
To an extent defoliation works, but it is genetics, environment, and timing that are key to doing it correctly.
And FYI I rarely jump on other peoples threads to tell them they're ignorant, I just couldn't help myself here though. If its an argument that you're looking for, head over to the long winded "To defoliate or not" thread I'm sure you can find some more dumb shits that will agree with you about how plants grow better with no leaves...
jacksthc
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your right UB has devoted tons of his time to help others and you agree "defoliation works, but it is genetics, environment, and timing that are key to doing it correctly"you're ignorantly claiming that plants without leaves grow bigger and better flowers... AND to top it off, arguing with someone (@Uncle Ben ) who has devoted tons of their time to something YOU are just fooling around with....
Do battery banks (ie. Cannabis Plants) collect the suns rays and turn them into usable energy without solar panels (Leaves)?
....
To an extent defoliation works, but it is genetics, environment, and timing that are key to doing it correctly.
And FYI I rarely jump on other peoples threads to tell them they're ignorant, I just couldn't help myself here though. If its an argument that you're looking for, head over to the long winded "To defoliate or not" thread I'm sure you can find some more dumb shits that will agree with you about how plants grow better with no leaves...
all I have said is defoliation works if its done right, UB can not accept this
ok if rarely jump on other peoples threads to tell them they're ignorant, so its just a one off
UB jumps on every defoliation thread with others and trolls the thread till its closed, I don't want an argument, just want to grow my plants the way I want too and if I want to pull every leaf off my plant why do you care ?
im getting what your saying but I just bought the 50$ go box by general organic . It comes with 8 bottles and everything has very low npk values . How would I use this stuff more effectively . I dont know if your familiar with it . But maybe ill rethink my next nutrient purchase
waterdawg
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Here's a newbs perspective in the whole nute thing. First let me say I'm cheap!!! When I got into this I knew less than shit (I now know shit), so off I go to the one of two hydro shops within 150 miles. They seemed nice! Walked out with the newest and best in nutes, additives, and enhancers. That was 2 years ago and a big shelf for all my pretty bottles of miracle potions lol. I now have two bottles and no shelf, plants do as well or better, and more room for plants to boot!!! IMO there is a lot of useless expensive crap out there just waiting for newbs. Dont get caught in the hype is all I'm saying.
a senile fungus
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This is why I learned how to take care of flowers and veggies before I grew marijuana. Its a plant like any other.
I am looking at natures nectar as a new organic line . Its only 3 botles one N one P and one K and it says the nute mix stays the same through veg and flower so I can use the same water for everything . Any one know anything about this stuff . Does that sound better than my 8 parts go box
RL420
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budman111
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I can guarantee that at least 98% of all those shiny bottles 'promising the biggest harvest you have ever seen' is a con, a plant can only uptake 16 nutrient elements, how many bottles should that take?!
This is the most poorly regulated market in the world.
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purplehays1
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couldn't agree more, if you are using more than one "Bloom Booster" you are getting jacked.
BustinScales510
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Everything is poorly regulated. That is what people want. When anything is regulated people complain about big government. I think bottled nutrients are more regulated than diet pills and vitamins. Those arent really studied by the fda and the companies can claim a lot of bs. It is why you'll see a commercial for a diet pill on tv and then a year or two later youll see an ad from insurance lawyers asking for people to contact them that took it. The fda waits for people to get sick before they shut the companies down.
Hydroburn
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big fail on that one... no surprise. might as well admit you cant help yourself. clearly you feel like you have to chime in with your 2 squirts in every single defoliation thread... like you are going to swoop in like a white knight and save us all from being hopeless defoliating noobs with you 1970s outdoor grow manual.
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a senile fungus
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Look at all those leaves!
Is she gonna die?
:'(
Is she gonna die?
:'(
