Man-made global warming is a lie and not backed up by science, claims leading meteorologist.

[UncleBuck]

Scientific paper

http://reason.com/blog/2009/08/27/sunspots-do-really-affect-weat

lol.

so it looks like you accept the conclusions of gerald a. meehl then. what does he say about AGW?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Meehl

He was a lead author of the sixth chapter of the IPCC Second Assessment Report, published in 1995,[2][3] and helped oversee the chapter about climate projections in the IPCC AR4, published in 2007.[4] He is an ISI highly cited researcher,[5] and is known for his research linking global warming to extreme weather.[6][7][8] He has also done much research into the use of global climate models. One of these studies, in which Meehl et al. showed that models could not reproduce recent warming without including anthropogenic influences




how about julie arblaster then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Arblaster

Arblaster is a member of the World Climate Research Programme Stratospheric-Tropospheric Processes and their Role in Climate (SPARC) scientific steering group. She was a contributing author to the Working Group I contribution to the Fourth Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, 2007,[3] and a lead author on the chapter on long-term climate change projections of the Working Group I Contribution to the Fifth Assessment Report of the IPCC.[4] This chapter reviewed the available evidence to understand how the world's climate might have changed by the middle of this century and beyond. Notably, this IPCC report was the first to outline how much additional carbon dioxide can be emitted to keep global temperatures below specific thresholds






i'll save both of us the time and just give you the spoiler: every single person who put together that abstract, which does not say what you think it says, are all hardcore proponents of human activities causing global warming.

so fucking stupid.

how can one person be so stupid?

 

[UncleBuck]

We all cite copy and paste stuff we barely understand, I'll admit it.
But nobody is going to convince me that the debate is settled, there is no proof that man is causing or not causing climate change, I've seen plenty of evidence to support both.
It's not the science that i have a problem with.

It's when I see the government, the media and especially politicians pushing an agenda this hard, I have a natural defense that tells me to question it. I don't trust any of them as far as I could throw them.
If this is a political scam, it's brilliant. They'll have the power to tax us all any time the weather dictates it.

so jared taylor and victor thorn are sources you trust, but NASA is not?

that's fucking loony.

 

[Mellowman2112]

So you have to resort to an ad hominem attack already tsk tsk.

 

[Mellowman2112]

so jared taylor and victor thorn are sources you trust, but NASA is not?

that's fucking loony.

NASA will report whatever those in charge of it's budget tell them to report. That's the way things are done in the land of the fee and home of the slave these days wake up please.

 

[UncleBuck]

So you have to resort to an ad hominem attack already tsk tsk.

why don't you cite some more proponents of AGW to prove to us how AGW is bullshit?



calling you stupid after that post was not an ad hominem, it was a valid description.

only a really, really stupid person would attempt to cite AGW proponents in an attempt to discredit AGW.

 

[UncleBuck]

NASA will report whatever those in charge of it's budget tell them to report. That's the way things are done in the land of the fee and home of the slave these days wake up please.

what? they will?

then explain roy spencer. he is a well known skeptic and NASA employee.

can you reconcile roy spencer into your little conspiracy theory?

 

[jahbrudda]

so jared taylor and victor thorn are sources you trust, but NASA is not?

that's fucking loony.

I've also quoted Dr. Martin Luther King, does that make me a freedom fight too?

 

[jahbrudda]

No explanation needed, employees do not dictate policy, come you're smarter than that.

 

[Mellowman2112]

The maunder minimum coincided with lower than average temperatures in the northern hemisphere. Directly in correlation with sunspots. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

Just use your head. All of that carbon was floating free in the times of the dinosaurs and it fueled huge trees and plants because wait for it, wait for it---yes plants feed of co2 as anybody here can tell you. Duh. Nature will balance itself out. More co2 means more food as in higher yields. So yes I have a problem with the bought off government trying to stick me with another tax for something that is actually beneficial to higher crop yields.

 

[Mellowman2112]

No explanation needed, employees do not dictate policy, come you're smarter than that.

Oh he is actually smarter than that, the problem is after many years here I have come to the conclusion that he is a paid troll or is living in his mothers basement, where else would somebody get the time to respond to every post that is against the establishment's propaganda?

 

[Mellowman2112]

IF the world had larger plants it would prevent drought also as in more rainforests.

 

[UncleBuck]

Nature will balance itself out.

how do you suppose that will happen?

we are literally taking tens of millions or hundreds of millions of years sequestered CO2 out of the ground, and putting it all into the air over the course of a couple centuries.

how does millions of years of CO2 get handled?

it only took us a hundred years to drive CO2 levels higher than they have been in 800,000+ years. where are your CO2 sinks coming from in your self-balancing scenario?

 

[UncleBuck]

Oh he is actually smarter than that, the problem is after many years here I have come to the conclusion that he is a paid troll or is living in his mothers basement, where else would somebody get the time to respond to every post that is against the establishment's propaganda?

if the establishment is just propagandizing us all with fake scientists, then why did you just cite 5 of the most prominent ones?

are you a sheeple who needs to wake up?

 

[Mellowman2112]

The plants themselves will absorb the co2 as long as they stop spraying aluminum and barium microparticles all over the planet. As you know a precitituous rise in the earths ph is very bad for plant life yet these psychopaths continue to spray aluminum in massive quantities.

http://www.pipr.co.uk/all/chemtrails-how-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

 

[UncleBuck]

The plants themselves will absorb the co2 as long as they stop spraying aluminum and barium microparticles all over the planet. As you know a precitituous rise in the earths ph is very bad for plant life yet these psychopaths continue to spray aluminum in massive quantities.

http://www.pipr.co.uk/all/chemtrails-how-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

a chemtrails conspiracy to back up a global warming hoax conspiracy. awesome.

people like you suffer from a disease.

 

[Mellowman2112]

Yes definately it's called being able to think and observe for myself. It's not what politicians say that matters it's what they do.

''It was as though some huge force were pressing down upon you – something that penetrated inside your skull, battering against your brain, frightening you out of your beliefs, persuading you, almost, to deny the evidence of your senses. In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense.'' -O

 

[Mellowman2112]

Yes straight from the troll textbook, whenever you cant refute something call the observer a ''conspiracy theorist''

 

[UncleBuck]

Yes straight from the troll textbook, whenever you cant refute something call the observer a ''conspiracy theorist''

i already refuted your citation about "sunspots" and your half-assed assertion that it will all just magically balance itself out.

you can't think or observe a single thing for yourself, you just repeat conspiracy theories that you hear on youtube from alex jones.

 

[abandonconflict]

So you have to resort to an ad hominem attack already tsk tsk.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, learn the difference between an ad hominem and an insult dipshit.

 

[Mellowman2112]

I dont see where you refuted the Maunder Minimum. Why did temperatures drop during the Maunder minimum?