MMPR Grow op: Small Scale
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R.Raider
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Which is an obvious flaw of the current MMPR program, as many small operations would flourish if given a chance...this would also help with options and availability as well.
Where can I fill my script with quality meds for under a dollar a gram? I appreciate your honesty. I really think a co-op type system is the way forward. Much like the designated growers of old times. No more dangerous grows in your house. There should be standards for grow rooms everyone has to meet. Until the bm and lp's start selling meds at realistic prices people will fight to grow their own. Expecting sick people to pay the same prices as everyone else on the bm (or worse from a lp) is asinine. All these lp's want to post a profit as fast as possible so they can get more investors. What the fuck does that have to do with SICK people accessing their meds? $15, $10, $5 a gram is no way representative of what it cost to grow. Even $5 a gram is so wildly over priced it's akin to ford selling a f-150 for $250000 because the goverment says they are the only ones allowed to sell trucks. Only cost them $10000 to build if that. Bm or worse prices for a legal substance is not sustainable.
Princess of Pot
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I completely agree with you. The current prices are outrageous - especially given how poor the product is. Maybe they would be acceptable for an unbelieveable strain or recreational user - but not a medical patients
VIANARCHRIS
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I have said before that the mere fact that you want to be involved in the mess that is the MMPR is enough reason for mistrust among mmj patients. Out of all the applicants, how many small 'mom & pop' or 'sole proprietor' style LP's have been granted a license? The MMPR is designed for the big players and anyone without massive financial, legal and business investor backing is chasing a mirage. I don't doubt that many of the small wannabe's have an honest interest in helping patients, but their main goal is to become a for-profit business. There is nothing wrong with that, but the 'we care about the poor patient' line is getting really tired. As a mmar grower, you could easily and with very little risk of prosecution, sell your excess to a compassion club. That would help provide patients with affordable,quality medicine while aiding in the failure of the mmpr as a sole source of legal marijuana, and increasing the likelihood of the courts granting ALL patients the right to grow. And the money you make is tax free.
itsmehigh
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I understand how frustrated the people are here towards the current LP's, this place is a way for them to vent their anger. Patients should be able to grow their own meds, period. But the wannabes here aren't the ones they should be ostersizing. I for one have mentored dozens of people in the last 5 years when I participated in the MMAR, teaching them how to provide for themselves so they didn't have to rely on me for there there meds. The wannabes here are genuine, and compassionate people who are looking to help patients that can't help themselves. Not everybody is able to grow for themselves. I volunteered in the MMAR and have given away hundreds of pounds to the people most in need. There needs to be an outlet for people who have no other means to source their meds. Why not me? I have been doing it for years, and have had many compliments and gratitudes payed to me. To lump all LP's in one category isn't fair, there are some good guys/gals out there, and once we get an opportunity to prove our selves, hopefully you will have a change of heart. Nobody here knows me, and to judge me because I have the skill and dedication to help others is just bad ju ju on you. I got thick skin, hate away, that's not going to change the fact that I will persue my dream to provide people with quality, tested, reasonably priced meds, for the people who choose to use my services. Like what I have been doing for the last 5 years. I love what I do, cultivating cannabis, it's in my blood. The wannabes here are all cannabis lovers first, I for one don't even own a suit, my motives are clear it's got nothing to do with money, and everything to do with caring and nuturing my garden, and the by product of that is helping others. By hating on us here will accomplish nothing, you should be channeling all that anger and hatred somewhere where it will make a difference, because we wannabes here aren't going anywhere, your stuck with us weather you like it or not. You always have the option of the ignore button, if you don't want to hear what we are saying, so give it a rest. We get it! Your beating a dead horse to death.
Itsme.
Itsme.
It's not beating a dead horse. There are members here that daily proclaim mmpr is the only way for mmj users to access their meds. And make wildly inaccurate claims that mmj users buying meds from other sources will be arrested, loose custody of their kids, loose their houses and spend thousands of dollars fighting the charges in court. It's my civic duty to call bullshit ever time I see that posted. The people posting this nonsense all have alterior motives. I don't want to sell anything to anyone. Notice how there isn't one example of a canadian mmj user being charged for having meds obtained from a source other then a lp. I say thank you for all you've done for the sick and the poor under the mmar. I've yet to see anything from a lp that shows they care about anything other then profit. I can't and wont support anyone working for a lp. Small or large. I'm sorry but I cant and won't stop spreading the good word until no one is buying from lp's.
VIANARCHRIS
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Itsme- I hope you didn't take offense to what I wrote. I have never singled out any particular LP or wannabe, I think I am just stating the facts as I see them. I appreciate that you say you have helped and continue to help patients, and good on ya. Many people help others,especially in the mmj community, without expecting compensation, and more importantly without involving HC. I give away a 1/4 pound some months to patients that can't afford it. HC is considered the enemy, and rightfully so, and fair or not, an LP is considered guilty by association. I don't know how you change that...I don't think you can before the dust settles from February's court date.
itsmehigh
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I never take offence, it's the Internet. Everybody here has the right to speak their mind. Dialogue can be productive. But to constantly bash members of this community isn't going to solve anything. We are all on the same page here, we are a pro patient/cannabis community. I just think some people should direct their energy somewhere else if they want to have an impact on the system/government, the true enemy. They are preaching to the choir here. It makes a very unpleasant place to visit, I feel I have a lot to offer to this community and so do the other wannabes, it's to your advantage to have us around. We are a wealth of knowlage, good or bad. I have been personally attacked and insulted by some of the members here, It's very childish and immature and I lost all respect for them, my solution was to give them the iggy button. Problem solved. If they don't like what I have to say they should do the same. Or just shut the fuck up. End of rants.
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Itsme.
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maddtrapper
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Some peoples children tsk tsk act your age not your penis size!
Princess of Pot
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Who's to say we're not providing it now for free? Assuming that we are all in it for big profits is a joke. I've been growing for patients for years and I am definitely not profiting off anyone - if anything, the opposite
VIANARCHRIS
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We are coming at this from opposite ends and I don't think we'll ever agree on this issue. This increase in posts bashing LP's comes in the lead up to the court hearing on Monday. There were an equal number of posts from LP's attacking the patients for not embracing the MMPR and thier grandiose business plans, attacking mmar patients for 'abusing the system' etc. If you go back to posts from Feb. and March of this year, you would see the same thing. It will happen again in Jan. & Feb. Lp's are synonymous with HC in most patients eyes, and perceived as deserving of our distrust and criticism for that very fact. This forum is for patients, so I don't think you can expect to have a thread that runs counter to the goals of the vast majority and not expect opposition. I would contact RIU about a forum for LP's if you want someplace to go without criticism. Or just shut the fuck up.End of rant.
GrowRock
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So princess if you are still giving meds to patients then you are choosing to break the law then why choose to follow a different law the mmpr that blocks the most vulnerable part of our society from accessing meds???why not fight a broken flawed system instead of rolling over/ or turning the other cheek!!!
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VIANARCHRIS
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You may very well be giving it away for free now out of the goodness of your heart, but I doubt it. You stated you were a wannabe, therefore you are in it for profit. No one would spend 10's if not hundreds of thousands of $ and not expect a return on investment.The fact is, no LP without very deep pockets and generous investors will survive. Your investors or bankers are not going to look favourably on a business plan that provides for no, or minimal profit.
leaffan
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Yes, you have mine.
leaffan
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Everyone should be allowed to grow.
Everyone should be allowed to sell for whatever they want.
Everyone should respect each other, unless there is cause not too.
I really believe that LPs and wannabes should have one thread that they can communicate on without the constant bashing.
Everyone should be allowed to sell for whatever they want.
Everyone should respect each other, unless there is cause not too.
I really believe that LPs and wannabes should have one thread that they can communicate on without the constant bashing.
GrowRock
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Everyone seems to be so worried about the poor LP's and having a thread.. what about when March 31 2014 came rolling around and all the patient sorry charity cases and what ever else some of these wannabes and LP's were calling sick people who can't afford there retarded priced schwag meds. Talking about if you can't afford medicine that will save your life to bad. Hmm I wonder where all the bad blood came from????
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