2015 can suck it !

panhead

Well-Known Member
I can't imagine how all the elements in your life must be pulling you to resolve this in different ways.

The tough guy wants to bash him in the face with a 2x4.
The loving husband wants him to beg forgiveness & not tell family.
The business owner wants to call the authorities & land his ass in jail.
Et al.

You have a true conundrum my friend.
I wish you the wisdom to choose the correct answer.
Boy you called it right .

1st Thought was this shits gonna tear our family apart & ruin my wifes relationship with her baby brother & make her illness worse .

2nd Thought was the tough guy , i stayed pissed a minute & allmost allowed my son to fire him .

3rd Thought was about the business i just gave up control of , not about lost revenue but my son's problem solving skills .

I remembered the golden rule from when i ran a crew , allways hear all sides before leaping into a decision , quick decisions are usually wrong .
 

panhead

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read my big reply...its not a quick fix answer but those are questions a professional in my career would ask
I did read your big post & every members posts as well , im glad i thought shit out & spoke with him before throwing a hissy fit , im also pleased with all the good advice from so many .

I spoke with him & instead of giving him the $5,500 raise im making my last decision before giving 100% control over to my son , he is getting an $11,000 a year raise & my other brother in law is getting a $6,000 a year raise .

Right now my wife's a little hungry & asking for a snack so i'll post complete resolution after i make my wife's snack .

Back in a few .
 

mr sunshine

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I did read your big post & every members posts as well , im glad i thought shit out & spoke with him before throwing a hissy fit , im also pleased with all the good advice from so many .

I spoke with him & instead of giving him the $5,500 raise im making my last decision before giving 100% control over to my son , he is getting an $11,000 a year raise & my other brother in law is getting a $6,000 a year raise .

Right now my wife's a little hungry & asking for a snack so i'll post complete resolution after i make my wife's snack .

Back in a few .
That's great bro... I'm glad you were able to resolve the situation that's been weighing you down...
 

panhead

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Allright here's the scoop , i called him a little while ago & said me & my son were having trouble figuring out why his mileage was so high & maybe Wright Express was over charging us cause his mileage should be close to his brothers , i figured on starting with the small shit 1st & im glad i did .

He says " well yeah my mileage is higher than normal we've been workin on your fathers cabin & were allmost finished too " , i didnt even ask about the charges at Home Depot or the ATM withdraws because i know where it all went now .

My father owned a few properties & a little vacation home outside Windsor Canada he left me when he passed away , we call the little house " the cabin" because its so small its impossible to find a long term renter , it costs us $1,200 a year in lawn care & brings in zero profit so me & him had a talk about the property early this spring , i didnt want to sell it because my father loved the place but im barred from entering Canada forever so wtf do we do with the place .

He dont have time to use the place & im perma banned from Canada ( Fuck the Queen ) so we talked about fixing it up & letting all our kids use it as a vacation spot they can do spring break type shit at , its got a nice little pond out back & for a little party pad it could be sweet after some work .

He said he was gonna start working on it in his spare time & thats the last we spoke about it , i had forgotten the whole deal until the phone call , so far he's put a new metal roof on the place , updated the kitchen & bath , had septic pumped , new water softener so the water dont smell like rotten eggs , rebuilt the garage that was falling down & new modern appliances , all its lacking is new carpet & he's waiting for the next house we flip so he can pad the carpet sq footage to get enough to finish the cabin .

It all makes sense now , he put the appliances & materials on other jobs & split them up to blend it all in for tax reasons , we cant use any money spent on the cabin on our business taxes so he did it smart , exactly how i would of spread the costs out .

The best part is he did every last bit of the work on his days off , vacation & short work days instead of going home with a full days pay he drove to Canada to work on the cabin , i couldn't ask for a better foreman or brother in law .

Im so glad i didnt jump the gun & accuse him of stealing , I would of caused a world of drama , from his hard work all our kids are gonna have a kick ass safe place to party & go fishing with the grand kids PLUS he never asked for one red cent for his time & effort all summer long ,thats family !

I allready told my son & he's happy it wasn't thievery but he didnt understand why his unk spread out the purchases on other PO's , the business dont own the property legally because its still in my name , now he understands it all .

Both brothers in law will see their raises on this weeks pay , they've earned it & i hope it makes them as happy as that phone call made me & my boy .

Thanks for lending an ear guys , all the advice helped clear this old farts head .
 

panhead

Well-Known Member
Wow. Now that's a Christmas present.

And... a lesson learned. The chance to learn from your experience is much appreciated.
It really is a great present i just wish i could visit the place once more in my life but its not in the cards , i guess im gonna have to live with pictures of the place .

Canada & its English immigration laws can fuk right off , i own property there & im not allowed to cross the border , ever .
 

The Outdoorsman

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It really is a great present i just wish i could visit the place once more in my life but its not in the cards , i guess im gonna have to live with pictures of the place .

Canada & its English immigration laws can fuk right off , i own property there & im not allowed to cross the border , ever .
Why exactly?
 

panhead

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Why exactly?
Good question & one i still dont understand because my crimes were never in Canada .

Were so close to Canada the wife & i used to go across the Ambassador bridge from Detroit into Canada all the time , alot of times just to eat lunch or visit the flea market & just putz around , it was allways a good excuse to get one of my bikes out & go for a cruise , my wife was a good rider & rode her own Harley for years until she got too sick to drive so it was kinda like our thing .

One week i had off work the wife & i rode the bikes thru the tunnel & thats when the shit started , got red flagged on Canadian side & went thru the whole q & a where they split us up & gave us shit about my bikes builders title , perfectly legal but a great excuse to fuk with somebody , they made us go back because of my bike title & i thought that was the end of it .

A few weeks later my brother & i were out riding our scooters & decided to hit the Casino in Windsor , he's rode with the Outlaws MC for 30 yrs & was wearing his patch , once the Canadians saw his patch we were fuked, they said i was a motorcycle thief because the last bike i crossed with had a builders title now this bike has a factory title , im like DUH stupidos i have more than 1 Harley so wtf , then they took pictures of all my tattoos ,stripped me buck naked & tore my full dresser to shreds looking for drugs .

Once finished with me they cuffed me to the wall & made me wait hours till they were done with my brother , when they finished fukin with us they said my brother & me can never enter Canada again without a Queens pardon , fuk i didnt even know Canada still used Englands queen .

Ive never been in no stupid ass gang in my life but since my brother is im listed as a KNOWN COHORT whatever that stupid shit means , they told me if i ever tried to cross again without a pardon for my prison time in the states i'd be sent directly to the prison in Miland to await trial .

After that ive been all about fuk Canada, im not hiring a lawyer to petition the queen of fuking England just to see a cleaner version of Detroit so ive left it alone .
 

panhead

Well-Known Member
Wow - best ending ever!!

I'm actually really happy for your situation Panhead.
Congrats for keeping your wits about you and being patient.
It really is a great situation , ive got nothing but respect for those 2 hairy bastard brothers in law , both of em are as hairy as Ron Jeremy , makes me itch just thinking about their back hair .

I shoulda known they would never steal from us now i feel like a rat , he will never find out i thought he wronged me ,ever .

Thanks for the kind words brother .
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Allright here's the scoop , i called him a little while ago & said me & my son were having trouble figuring out why his mileage was so high & maybe Wright Express was over charging us cause his mileage should be close to his brothers , i figured on starting with the small shit 1st & im glad i did .

He says " well yeah my mileage is higher than normal we've been workin on your fathers cabin & were allmost finished too " , i didnt even ask about the charges at Home Depot or the ATM withdraws because i know where it all went now .

My father owned a few properties & a little vacation home outside Windsor Canada he left me when he passed away , we call the little house " the cabin" because its so small its impossible to find a long term renter , it costs us $1,200 a year in lawn care & brings in zero profit so me & him had a talk about the property early this spring , i didnt want to sell it because my father loved the place but im barred from entering Canada forever so wtf do we do with the place .

He dont have time to use the place & im perma banned from Canada ( Fuck the Queen ) so we talked about fixing it up & letting all our kids use it as a vacation spot they can do spring break type shit at , its got a nice little pond out back & for a little party pad it could be sweet after some work .

He said he was gonna start working on it in his spare time & thats the last we spoke about it , i had forgotten the whole deal until the phone call , so far he's put a new metal roof on the place , updated the kitchen & bath , had septic pumped , new water softener so the water dont smell like rotten eggs , rebuilt the garage that was falling down & new modern appliances , all its lacking is new carpet & he's waiting for the next house we flip so he can pad the carpet sq footage to get enough to finish the cabin .

It all makes sense now , he put the appliances & materials on other jobs & split them up to blend it all in for tax reasons , we cant use any money spent on the cabin on our business taxes so he did it smart , exactly how i would of spread the costs out .

The best part is he did every last bit of the work on his days off , vacation & short work days instead of going home with a full days pay he drove to Canada to work on the cabin , i couldn't ask for a better foreman or brother in law .

Im so glad i didnt jump the gun & accuse him of stealing , I would of caused a world of drama , from his hard work all our kids are gonna have a kick ass safe place to party & go fishing with the grand kids PLUS he never asked for one red cent for his time & effort all summer long ,thats family !

I allready told my son & he's happy it wasn't thievery but he didnt understand why his unk spread out the purchases on other PO's , the business dont own the property legally because its still in my name , now he understands it all .

Both brothers in law will see their raises on this weeks pay , they've earned it & i hope it makes them as happy as that phone call made me & my boy .

Thanks for lending an ear guys , all the advice helped clear this old farts head .
im REALLY glad you calmed down before you flipped shit.
can you imagine what wouldve happened if you accused him?
this was actually one of the questions i posted to you!

"2. if you say things to him personally in office and ask? how will it be if there are plausible reasons to his actions?
"


well enjoy and goodluck
 

sunni

Administrator
Staff member
Good question & one i still dont understand because my crimes were never in Canada .

Were so close to Canada the wife & i used to go across the Ambassador bridge from Detroit into Canada all the time , alot of times just to eat lunch or visit the flea market & just putz around , it was allways a good excuse to get one of my bikes out & go for a cruise , my wife was a good rider & rode her own Harley for years until she got too sick to drive so it was kinda like our thing .

One week i had off work the wife & i rode the bikes thru the tunnel & thats when the shit started , got red flagged on Canadian side & went thru the whole q & a where they split us up & gave us shit about my bikes builders title , perfectly legal but a great excuse to fuk with somebody , they made us go back because of my bike title & i thought that was the end of it .

A few weeks later my brother & i were out riding our scooters & decided to hit the Casino in Windsor , he's rode with the Outlaws MC for 30 yrs & was wearing his patch , once the Canadians saw his patch we were fuked, they said i was a motorcycle thief because the last bike i crossed with had a builders title now this bike has a factory title , im like DUH stupidos i have more than 1 Harley so wtf , then they took pictures of all my tattoos ,stripped me buck naked & tore my full dresser to shreds looking for drugs .

Once finished with me they cuffed me to the wall & made me wait hours till they were done with my brother , when they finished fukin with us they said my brother & me can never enter Canada again without a Queens pardon , fuk i didnt even know Canada still used Englands queen .

Ive never been in no stupid ass gang in my life but since my brother is im listed as a KNOWN COHORT whatever that stupid shit means , they told me if i ever tried to cross again without a pardon for my prison time in the states i'd be sent directly to the prison in Miland to await trial .

After that ive been all about fuk Canada, im not hiring a lawyer to petition the queen of fuking England just to see a cleaner version of Detroit so ive left it alone .
well heres the problem youre going through the Detroit side.

call ahead first and go through another bridge.
 

panhead

Well-Known Member
well heres the problem youre going through the Detroit side.

call ahead first and go through another bridge.
See now i thought about going across via Port Huron but am afraid to chance it , when big cops with guns & mean ass dogs are tellin me the next time i try to cross without that pardon for my crimes im going back to prison i start shittin , free sex drugs & rock n roll waiting on the other side couldn't persuade me to risk it .

Looking at it from border patrols perspective i wouldn't let me in the country either , going by their computer files im a 2 time looser , violent drug manufacturer , known cohort of a criminal enterprise who lived in Beirut & married a member of Hezbollah , on paper i must look like a shithead .

Your user name allways makes me wonder if your Lebanese like my wife , no answer expected btw .

im REALLY glad you calmed down before you flipped shit.
can you imagine what wouldve happened if you accused him?
this was actually one of the questions i posted to you!
"2. if you say things to him personally in office and ask? how will it be if there are plausible reasons to his actions? "
I was angry but not over the money , i couldn't comprehend the ( perceived ) betrayal of trust , the brothers & me all have keys to each others houses & saftey deposit box'es ect , plus were all in agreement that my wife & their sisters well being supercedes all issues , they love her as much as i do so i couldn't get my head around such betrayal ,they dote over her & since she got sick have made her head of the family , something never done in their culture .

I knew deep down there had to be a reason such as me taking advantage of them by not sharing enough of the profits , or some error somewhere , i got quite a bit of thought provoking advice from you & others that helped me think thru it & approach him in a way that wasn't an accusation tword him & came off as questioning Wright Express's billing .

Oh man Sunni , if i had of came at him like " you fucker where's my money or how dare you steal from us " our entire family would of lost respect for me but still wouldn't of let my wife know i disrespected him .

Your a pretty smart cookie & so are some other members , thanks for taking interest in my family everybody .
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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Staff member
See now i thought about going across via Port Huron but am afraid to chance it , when big cops with guns & mean ass dogs are tellin me the next time i try to cross without that pardon for my crimes im going back to prison i start shittin , free sex drugs & rock n roll waiting on the other side couldn't persuade me to risk it .

Looking at it from border patrols perspective i wouldn't let me in the country either , going by their computer files im a 2 time looser , violent drug manufacturer , known cohort of a criminal enterprise who lived in Beirut & married a member of Hezbollah , on paper i must look like a shithead .

Your user name allways makes me wonder if your Lebanese like my wife , no answer expected btw .



I was angry but not over the money , i couldn't comprehend the ( perceived ) betrayal of trust , the brothers & me all have keys to each others houses & saftey deposit box'es ect , plus were all in agreement that my wife & their sisters well being supercedes all issues , they love her as much as i do so i couldn't get my head around such betrayal ,they dote over her & since she got sick have made her head of the family , something never done in their culture .

I knew deep down there had to be a reason such as me taking advantage of them by not sharing enough of the profits , or some error somewhere , i got quite a bit of thought provoking advice from you & others that helped me think thru it & approach him in a way that wasn't an accusation tword him & came off as questioning Wright Express's billing .

Oh man Sunni , if i had of came at him like " you fucker where's my money or how dare you steal from us " our entire family would of lost respect for me but still wouldn't of let my wife know i disrespected him .

Your a pretty smart cookie & so are some other members , thanks for taking interest in my family everybody .
Does that mean it's time to change the thread title? :wink:
I happen to know a guy.
 

mudballs

Well-Known Member
if you're wealthy enough you could charter a helicopter or plane. passenger manifests are easily 'messed up' for wealthy weekend getaways.
 

panhead

Well-Known Member
if you're wealthy enough you could charter a helicopter or plane. passenger manifests are easily 'messed up' for wealthy weekend getaways.
Man screw those helicopters , when my company was building Motor City Casino we had a fire on the job site & the owners wanted to view the damage so they flew in on one , i had to ride along in it while the suits from Vegas took aerial photos from their corporate jet helicopter , the whole ride feels strange like your leaning forward the entire time , shit threw my equilibrium off & i felt like barfing for the rest of day .

Im not wealthy enough to be flyin in for a weekend of caviar dreams & champagne get away's , more like renting a Ford Escort & using buy 1 get 1 free coupons at the greasy buffet .
 
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