2015 can suck it !

I can't imagine how all the elements in your life must be pulling you to resolve this in different ways.

The tough guy wants to bash him in the face with a 2x4.
The loving husband wants him to beg forgiveness & not tell family.
The business owner wants to call the authorities & land his ass in jail.
Et al.

You have a true conundrum my friend.
I wish you the wisdom to choose the correct answer.

Boy you called it right .

1st Thought was this shits gonna tear our family apart & ruin my wifes relationship with her baby brother & make her illness worse .

2nd Thought was the tough guy , i stayed pissed a minute & allmost allowed my son to fire him .

3rd Thought was about the business i just gave up control of , not about lost revenue but my son's problem solving skills .

I remembered the golden rule from when i ran a crew , allways hear all sides before leaping into a decision , quick decisions are usually wrong .
 
read my big reply...its not a quick fix answer but those are questions a professional in my career would ask

I did read your big post & every members posts as well , im glad i thought shit out & spoke with him before throwing a hissy fit , im also pleased with all the good advice from so many .

I spoke with him & instead of giving him the $5,500 raise im making my last decision before giving 100% control over to my son , he is getting an $11,000 a year raise & my other brother in law is getting a $6,000 a year raise .

Right now my wife's a little hungry & asking for a snack so i'll post complete resolution after i make my wife's snack .

Back in a few .
 
I did read your big post & every members posts as well , im glad i thought shit out & spoke with him before throwing a hissy fit , im also pleased with all the good advice from so many .

I spoke with him & instead of giving him the $5,500 raise im making my last decision before giving 100% control over to my son , he is getting an $11,000 a year raise & my other brother in law is getting a $6,000 a year raise .

Right now my wife's a little hungry & asking for a snack so i'll post complete resolution after i make my wife's snack .

Back in a few .
That's great bro... I'm glad you were able to resolve the situation that's been weighing you down...
 
Allright here's the scoop , i called him a little while ago & said me & my son were having trouble figuring out why his mileage was so high & maybe Wright Express was over charging us cause his mileage should be close to his brothers , i figured on starting with the small shit 1st & im glad i did .

He says " well yeah my mileage is higher than normal we've been workin on your fathers cabin & were allmost finished too " , i didnt even ask about the charges at Home Depot or the ATM withdraws because i know where it all went now .

My father owned a few properties & a little vacation home outside Windsor Canada he left me when he passed away , we call the little house " the cabin" because its so small its impossible to find a long term renter , it costs us $1,200 a year in lawn care & brings in zero profit so me & him had a talk about the property early this spring , i didnt want to sell it because my father loved the place but im barred from entering Canada forever so wtf do we do with the place .

He dont have time to use the place & im perma banned from Canada ( Fuck the Queen ) so we talked about fixing it up & letting all our kids use it as a vacation spot they can do spring break type shit at , its got a nice little pond out back & for a little party pad it could be sweet after some work .

He said he was gonna start working on it in his spare time & thats the last we spoke about it , i had forgotten the whole deal until the phone call , so far he's put a new metal roof on the place , updated the kitchen & bath , had septic pumped , new water softener so the water dont smell like rotten eggs , rebuilt the garage that was falling down & new modern appliances , all its lacking is new carpet & he's waiting for the next house we flip so he can pad the carpet sq footage to get enough to finish the cabin .

It all makes sense now , he put the appliances & materials on other jobs & split them up to blend it all in for tax reasons , we cant use any money spent on the cabin on our business taxes so he did it smart , exactly how i would of spread the costs out .

The best part is he did every last bit of the work on his days off , vacation & short work days instead of going home with a full days pay he drove to Canada to work on the cabin , i couldn't ask for a better foreman or brother in law .

Im so glad i didnt jump the gun & accuse him of stealing , I would of caused a world of drama , from his hard work all our kids are gonna have a kick ass safe place to party & go fishing with the grand kids PLUS he never asked for one red cent for his time & effort all summer long ,thats family !

I allready told my son & he's happy it wasn't thievery but he didnt understand why his unk spread out the purchases on other PO's , the business dont own the property legally because its still in my name , now he understands it all .

Both brothers in law will see their raises on this weeks pay , they've earned it & i hope it makes them as happy as that phone call made me & my boy .

Thanks for lending an ear guys , all the advice helped clear this old farts head .
 
Wow. Now that's a Christmas present.

And... a lesson learned. The chance to learn from your experience is much appreciated.

It really is a great present i just wish i could visit the place once more in my life but its not in the cards , i guess im gonna have to live with pictures of the place .

Canada & its English immigration laws can fuk right off , i own property there & im not allowed to cross the border , ever .
 
It really is a great present i just wish i could visit the place once more in my life but its not in the cards , i guess im gonna have to live with pictures of the place .

Canada & its English immigration laws can fuk right off , i own property there & im not allowed to cross the border , ever .
Why exactly?
 
Why exactly?

Good question & one i still dont understand because my crimes were never in Canada .

Were so close to Canada the wife & i used to go across the Ambassador bridge from Detroit into Canada all the time , alot of times just to eat lunch or visit the flea market & just putz around , it was allways a good excuse to get one of my bikes out & go for a cruise , my wife was a good rider & rode her own Harley for years until she got too sick to drive so it was kinda like our thing .

One week i had off work the wife & i rode the bikes thru the tunnel & thats when the shit started , got red flagged on Canadian side & went thru the whole q & a where they split us up & gave us shit about my bikes builders title , perfectly legal but a great excuse to fuk with somebody , they made us go back because of my bike title & i thought that was the end of it .

A few weeks later my brother & i were out riding our scooters & decided to hit the Casino in Windsor , he's rode with the Outlaws MC for 30 yrs & was wearing his patch , once the Canadians saw his patch we were fuked, they said i was a motorcycle thief because the last bike i crossed with had a builders title now this bike has a factory title , im like DUH stupidos i have more than 1 Harley so wtf , then they took pictures of all my tattoos ,stripped me buck naked & tore my full dresser to shreds looking for drugs .

Once finished with me they cuffed me to the wall & made me wait hours till they were done with my brother , when they finished fukin with us they said my brother & me can never enter Canada again without a Queens pardon , fuk i didnt even know Canada still used Englands queen .

Ive never been in no stupid ass gang in my life but since my brother is im listed as a KNOWN COHORT whatever that stupid shit means , they told me if i ever tried to cross again without a pardon for my prison time in the states i'd be sent directly to the prison in Miland to await trial .

After that ive been all about fuk Canada, im not hiring a lawyer to petition the queen of fuking England just to see a cleaner version of Detroit so ive left it alone .
 
Wow - best ending ever!!

I'm actually really happy for your situation Panhead.
Congrats for keeping your wits about you and being patient.

It really is a great situation , ive got nothing but respect for those 2 hairy bastard brothers in law , both of em are as hairy as Ron Jeremy , makes me itch just thinking about their back hair .

I shoulda known they would never steal from us now i feel like a rat , he will never find out i thought he wronged me ,ever .

Thanks for the kind words brother .
 
Allright here's the scoop , i called him a little while ago & said me & my son were having trouble figuring out why his mileage was so high & maybe Wright Express was over charging us cause his mileage should be close to his brothers , i figured on starting with the small shit 1st & im glad i did .

He says " well yeah my mileage is higher than normal we've been workin on your fathers cabin & were allmost finished too " , i didnt even ask about the charges at Home Depot or the ATM withdraws because i know where it all went now .

My father owned a few properties & a little vacation home outside Windsor Canada he left me when he passed away , we call the little house " the cabin" because its so small its impossible to find a long term renter , it costs us $1,200 a year in lawn care & brings in zero profit so me & him had a talk about the property early this spring , i didnt want to sell it because my father loved the place but im barred from entering Canada forever so wtf do we do with the place .

He dont have time to use the place & im perma banned from Canada ( Fuck the Queen ) so we talked about fixing it up & letting all our kids use it as a vacation spot they can do spring break type shit at , its got a nice little pond out back & for a little party pad it could be sweet after some work .

He said he was gonna start working on it in his spare time & thats the last we spoke about it , i had forgotten the whole deal until the phone call , so far he's put a new metal roof on the place , updated the kitchen & bath , had septic pumped , new water softener so the water dont smell like rotten eggs , rebuilt the garage that was falling down & new modern appliances , all its lacking is new carpet & he's waiting for the next house we flip so he can pad the carpet sq footage to get enough to finish the cabin .

It all makes sense now , he put the appliances & materials on other jobs & split them up to blend it all in for tax reasons , we cant use any money spent on the cabin on our business taxes so he did it smart , exactly how i would of spread the costs out .

The best part is he did every last bit of the work on his days off , vacation & short work days instead of going home with a full days pay he drove to Canada to work on the cabin , i couldn't ask for a better foreman or brother in law .

Im so glad i didnt jump the gun & accuse him of stealing , I would of caused a world of drama , from his hard work all our kids are gonna have a kick ass safe place to party & go fishing with the grand kids PLUS he never asked for one red cent for his time & effort all summer long ,thats family !

I allready told my son & he's happy it wasn't thievery but he didnt understand why his unk spread out the purchases on other PO's , the business dont own the property legally because its still in my name , now he understands it all .

Both brothers in law will see their raises on this weeks pay , they've earned it & i hope it makes them as happy as that phone call made me & my boy .

Thanks for lending an ear guys , all the advice helped clear this old farts head .
im REALLY glad you calmed down before you flipped shit.
can you imagine what wouldve happened if you accused him?
this was actually one of the questions i posted to you!

"2. if you say things to him personally in office and ask? how will it be if there are plausible reasons to his actions?
"


well enjoy and goodluck
 
Good question & one i still dont understand because my crimes were never in Canada .

Were so close to Canada the wife & i used to go across the Ambassador bridge from Detroit into Canada all the time , alot of times just to eat lunch or visit the flea market & just putz around , it was allways a good excuse to get one of my bikes out & go for a cruise , my wife was a good rider & rode her own Harley for years until she got too sick to drive so it was kinda like our thing .

One week i had off work the wife & i rode the bikes thru the tunnel & thats when the shit started , got red flagged on Canadian side & went thru the whole q & a where they split us up & gave us shit about my bikes builders title , perfectly legal but a great excuse to fuk with somebody , they made us go back because of my bike title & i thought that was the end of it .

A few weeks later my brother & i were out riding our scooters & decided to hit the Casino in Windsor , he's rode with the Outlaws MC for 30 yrs & was wearing his patch , once the Canadians saw his patch we were fuked, they said i was a motorcycle thief because the last bike i crossed with had a builders title now this bike has a factory title , im like DUH stupidos i have more than 1 Harley so wtf , then they took pictures of all my tattoos ,stripped me buck naked & tore my full dresser to shreds looking for drugs .

Once finished with me they cuffed me to the wall & made me wait hours till they were done with my brother , when they finished fukin with us they said my brother & me can never enter Canada again without a Queens pardon , fuk i didnt even know Canada still used Englands queen .

Ive never been in no stupid ass gang in my life but since my brother is im listed as a KNOWN COHORT whatever that stupid shit means , they told me if i ever tried to cross again without a pardon for my prison time in the states i'd be sent directly to the prison in Miland to await trial .

After that ive been all about fuk Canada, im not hiring a lawyer to petition the queen of fuking England just to see a cleaner version of Detroit so ive left it alone .
well heres the problem youre going through the Detroit side.

call ahead first and go through another bridge.
 
well heres the problem youre going through the Detroit side.

call ahead first and go through another bridge.

See now i thought about going across via Port Huron but am afraid to chance it , when big cops with guns & mean ass dogs are tellin me the next time i try to cross without that pardon for my crimes im going back to prison i start shittin , free sex drugs & rock n roll waiting on the other side couldn't persuade me to risk it .

Looking at it from border patrols perspective i wouldn't let me in the country either , going by their computer files im a 2 time looser , violent drug manufacturer , known cohort of a criminal enterprise who lived in Beirut & married a member of Hezbollah , on paper i must look like a shithead .

Your user name allways makes me wonder if your Lebanese like my wife , no answer expected btw .

im REALLY glad you calmed down before you flipped shit.
can you imagine what wouldve happened if you accused him?
this was actually one of the questions i posted to you!
"2. if you say things to him personally in office and ask? how will it be if there are plausible reasons to his actions? "

I was angry but not over the money , i couldn't comprehend the ( perceived ) betrayal of trust , the brothers & me all have keys to each others houses & saftey deposit box'es ect , plus were all in agreement that my wife & their sisters well being supercedes all issues , they love her as much as i do so i couldn't get my head around such betrayal ,they dote over her & since she got sick have made her head of the family , something never done in their culture .

I knew deep down there had to be a reason such as me taking advantage of them by not sharing enough of the profits , or some error somewhere , i got quite a bit of thought provoking advice from you & others that helped me think thru it & approach him in a way that wasn't an accusation tword him & came off as questioning Wright Express's billing .

Oh man Sunni , if i had of came at him like " you fucker where's my money or how dare you steal from us " our entire family would of lost respect for me but still wouldn't of let my wife know i disrespected him .

Your a pretty smart cookie & so are some other members , thanks for taking interest in my family everybody .
 
See now i thought about going across via Port Huron but am afraid to chance it , when big cops with guns & mean ass dogs are tellin me the next time i try to cross without that pardon for my crimes im going back to prison i start shittin , free sex drugs & rock n roll waiting on the other side couldn't persuade me to risk it .

Looking at it from border patrols perspective i wouldn't let me in the country either , going by their computer files im a 2 time looser , violent drug manufacturer , known cohort of a criminal enterprise who lived in Beirut & married a member of Hezbollah , on paper i must look like a shithead .

Your user name allways makes me wonder if your Lebanese like my wife , no answer expected btw .



I was angry but not over the money , i couldn't comprehend the ( perceived ) betrayal of trust , the brothers & me all have keys to each others houses & saftey deposit box'es ect , plus were all in agreement that my wife & their sisters well being supercedes all issues , they love her as much as i do so i couldn't get my head around such betrayal ,they dote over her & since she got sick have made her head of the family , something never done in their culture .

I knew deep down there had to be a reason such as me taking advantage of them by not sharing enough of the profits , or some error somewhere , i got quite a bit of thought provoking advice from you & others that helped me think thru it & approach him in a way that wasn't an accusation tword him & came off as questioning Wright Express's billing .

Oh man Sunni , if i had of came at him like " you fucker where's my money or how dare you steal from us " our entire family would of lost respect for me but still wouldn't of let my wife know i disrespected him .

Your a pretty smart cookie & so are some other members , thanks for taking interest in my family everybody .

Does that mean it's time to change the thread title? :wink:
I happen to know a guy.
 
if you're wealthy enough you could charter a helicopter or plane. passenger manifests are easily 'messed up' for wealthy weekend getaways.
 
if you're wealthy enough you could charter a helicopter or plane. passenger manifests are easily 'messed up' for wealthy weekend getaways.

Man screw those helicopters , when my company was building Motor City Casino we had a fire on the job site & the owners wanted to view the damage so they flew in on one , i had to ride along in it while the suits from Vegas took aerial photos from their corporate jet helicopter , the whole ride feels strange like your leaning forward the entire time , shit threw my equilibrium off & i felt like barfing for the rest of day .

Im not wealthy enough to be flyin in for a weekend of caviar dreams & champagne get away's , more like renting a Ford Escort & using buy 1 get 1 free coupons at the greasy buffet .
 
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