AlphaPhase
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hey satived, did i show you this pic? It's the tangilope when it was a seedling. Check out the funkyness 
giving defoliation during flower a try
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Sativied
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Did it top itself?
This one did (one node higher than in the pic), while it had already whorled phyllotaxy, quad even, on this branch (first quad female I found). Not part of my current selection anymore, too freaky and unpredictable.
Aeroknow
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AlphaPhase
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Its really hard to explain, but that thing that your plant did, the thin flat stem (I can't remember the proper term for that) it did that with two leaf sets that are supposed to grow apart for the new shoot, the two leaf stems fused together so there was no spot for the node to grow. So the first node grew out of the side of the flat stem lol, it was so freaking weird, here's a better pic because it's hard to explain in words
AlphaPhase
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Lmfao! I haven't seen that one haha!! @ aero
Sativied
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Cool, better pic indeed, but the explanation makes sense too. It looks like the result is very much like "fasciation" (fascination minus the 'n'. Fasciation is a fascinating mutationIts really hard to explain, but that thing that your plant did, the thin flat stem (I can't remember the proper term for that) it did that with two leaf sets that are supposed to grow apart for the new shoot, the two leaf stems fused together so there was no spot for the node to grow. So the first node grew out of the side of the flat stem lol, it was so freaking weird, here's a better pic because it's hard to explain in words
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) yet is not really the fasciation mutation. These type of mutations (that affect phyllotaxy i.e. leaf and organ arrangement) are caused by a different regulation of auxin and/or cytokinin. Not always necessarily an inheritable mutation in regulator genes because there can be external influences that mess up the hormone regulation and balance. I'm particularly interested in finding and breeding so called gain of function mutations and not freaks (though always cool to see something different). As you may have read yesterday when looking at those fasciation pics in my journal it was not a keeper by any means. Could have been if I had topped it early on perhaps..
AlphaPhase
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great explanation! I like learning about the mutations, plant mechanics intrigue me, there's so many things that are going on inside the plant. This one wasn't a keeper either, I was debating on taking a clone from it while it was flowering but I decided not too, just too much of a pain growing it because it was inconstant while growing. Every week it had some new mutation and just took so long to start flowering. I wish I had a space just for mutant plants, like a mutant cave, feed them some scraps here and there to keep them alive until I can work on them lol
AlphaPhase
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I haven't heard radio head in forever, I used to have that cd lol. Crazy mutant there, I've see some of those spiral leaves here and there but never attached to the stem, that wierd.
Here's a mutant I have currently, it's too small to know what exactly is going on with it, but it will definitely be a messed up plant when it gets bigger.
Here's a mutant I have currently, it's too small to know what exactly is going on with it, but it will definitely be a messed up plant when it gets bigger.
Sativied
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Yeah that's going to be a weirdo alright. Frankly that looks more like a runt than a "sport"
In botany, a sport or bud sport is a part of a plant (usually a woody plant, but sometimes an herb) that shows morphological differences from the rest of the plant. Sports may differ by foliage shape or color, flowers, or branch structure.
Sports with desirable characteristics are often propagated vegetatively to form new cultivars that retain the characteristics of the new morphology.[1]Such selections are often prone to "reversion", meaning that part or all of the plant reverts to its original form. An example of a bud sport is thenectarine, which developed from a bud sport from a peach. Other common fruits resulting from a sport mutation are the red Anjou pear and the white currant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_(botany)
In botany, a sport or bud sport is a part of a plant (usually a woody plant, but sometimes an herb) that shows morphological differences from the rest of the plant. Sports may differ by foliage shape or color, flowers, or branch structure.
Sports with desirable characteristics are often propagated vegetatively to form new cultivars that retain the characteristics of the new morphology.[1]Such selections are often prone to "reversion", meaning that part or all of the plant reverts to its original form. An example of a bud sport is thenectarine, which developed from a bud sport from a peach. Other common fruits resulting from a sport mutation are the red Anjou pear and the white currant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_(botany)
AlphaPhase
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More great info, it's always nice to be able to put an actual name to the things I'm seeing on some plants. Hey, this meme is just for you 
skunkd0c
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about a pound!
AlphaPhase
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lmao, I was thinking it would make a perfect garnish
Sativied
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More great info, it's always nice to be able to put an actual name to the things I'm seeing on some plants. Hey, this meme is just for you
Thanks, love it.
Sativied
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ayr0n
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i'd recommend cutting off the bigger fan leaves so some of those bottom bud sites can fill in
AlphaPhase
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eww dude is that a worm in the tomato?
Sativied
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They seem to be seedlings, the worm like part is a tap root.
AlphaPhase
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whaaaaaat, I've never seen that happen before, at first it looked like a ring worm. That's awesome, rooting itself inside of it's own fruit
