King Arthur
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Just because this thread I am buying 100 blueberry from seedsman, thank you thread is dead.
DNA Testing and Terpene Fingerprinting
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TonightYou
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Hey man, haven't seen you in this neck of the woods for a while. Hope all is good. What have you been growing recently from beans thats fire?
ETA: nevemind I needed to read further down. TGA? Really? I've yet smoked anything TGA that I just had to have more of or wanted in my garden.
Ace Yonder
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I thought Karma was where he said his real fire was from right now
HGK420
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Aye karma just knocked my socks off.. I'm in the process of the hiding of funds from the old lady so I can buy a couple packs of as much of his catalog as possible. I've seen some pretty outstanding results from some friends gardens regarding karma as well.
@TonightYou Ya tga had a few really strong flavorful phenos show up for me. I found a Chernobyl that people still ask about and I haven't had it for 3 years. For the most part tho, disappointing space queen Dom low yields..
Karma really has me excited at the moment. A couple upstarts have my attention as well but we will leave their shout outs for when pudding turns up some proof.
I'm getting ready to pop 50+ cherry mountain beans by bodhi finally too.. That one has my hopes pretty high too but idk about Appalachia crosses, its really Dom. I got a little amigo that has some amazing bodhi crosses right this minute but I can't seem to buy them over the karma beans.. I'm not joking, the karma run was a breath of fresh air. Exactly what was described and expected at a very high quality level. Big thumbs up to karma!
@TonightYou Ya tga had a few really strong flavorful phenos show up for me. I found a Chernobyl that people still ask about and I haven't had it for 3 years. For the most part tho, disappointing space queen Dom low yields..
Karma really has me excited at the moment. A couple upstarts have my attention as well but we will leave their shout outs for when pudding turns up some proof.
I'm getting ready to pop 50+ cherry mountain beans by bodhi finally too.. That one has my hopes pretty high too but idk about Appalachia crosses, its really Dom. I got a little amigo that has some amazing bodhi crosses right this minute but I can't seem to buy them over the karma beans.. I'm not joking, the karma run was a breath of fresh air. Exactly what was described and expected at a very high quality level. Big thumbs up to karma!
DoctorFrost
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What was some of the best strains by Karma you have ran?
Then what was the best ones if a person likes the Chem dominant stuff with a little OG tossed in? I am willing to give them a try.
Then what was the best ones if a person likes the Chem dominant stuff with a little OG tossed in? I am willing to give them a try.
HGK420
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The one I just had that impressed me so much was polar bear OG. I ran 2 packs and got 9 drop dead gorgeous winners. Only 2 low terpene phenos. Best dance with some seeds I've ever had hands down.
I even got a pheno of the polar bear that's earned the title "pineapple OG" because well you can guess I'm sure... Gasoline with the smell of a can of pineapples. Super pleasant and narcotic too..
A buddy of mine ran a pack of brotherhood Og and that's got my panties all in a bunch. Amazing fuely OG funk.
In all honesty I think you can trust what karma says in his descriptions. Idk about the whole hells angels OG story thing but he's right on with his description of polar bear and brotherhood. I got a pack of his strawberry banana as a freebie when I ordered the polar bear that I dropped in water to germ yesterday so when that's all said and done that will be a good indicator to me I guess.. Strawberry banana cream is a very ballsy attempt at a strain lol but his white OG v2 male was a parent in the polar bear I'd bet it brings some killer genes to the strawberry banana cream.
I even got a pheno of the polar bear that's earned the title "pineapple OG" because well you can guess I'm sure... Gasoline with the smell of a can of pineapples. Super pleasant and narcotic too..
A buddy of mine ran a pack of brotherhood Og and that's got my panties all in a bunch. Amazing fuely OG funk.
In all honesty I think you can trust what karma says in his descriptions. Idk about the whole hells angels OG story thing but he's right on with his description of polar bear and brotherhood. I got a pack of his strawberry banana as a freebie when I ordered the polar bear that I dropped in water to germ yesterday so when that's all said and done that will be a good indicator to me I guess.. Strawberry banana cream is a very ballsy attempt at a strain lol but his white OG v2 male was a parent in the polar bear I'd bet it brings some killer genes to the strawberry banana cream.
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TonightYou
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Good to know thanks HGK. Was eyeing some Karma for the next purchase but it will be a couple months before I run them.
King Arthur
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I am glad this thread turned around, I will have to come back and share my seedsman blueberry experience with everyone.
Hope I don't get fake genetics
Hope I don't get fake genetics
Ace Yonder
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Here, this is a perfect example. Scroll down a bit and you will see the terpene test results.
http://sclabs.com/sample-detail.html?id=96885
Also, here is their page with a brief explanation of some of the major terpenes.
http://sclabs.com/learn/terpenes.html
For the record, my favorite Terpene is Myrcene, it relaxes the blood brain barrier to better allow the passage of THC, it is the compound in Mangoes that makes them get you higher than normal. It also makes things a little couchlockey.
greenghost420
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im really glad about ur results with karma! my next shit popping off...
DoctorFrost
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Thanks my friend, I will deff check them out and pick up a couple packs to run sometime. You aren't the first that's said good things about Karma and now I am finally starting to listen. When things get repetitive that's when I get confident I can trust what others are saying. That's why I am a big Bodhi fan, and love everything about Bodhi. But there are a few other breeders that's on my list to try out here and there and I am deff not set on any one breeder. As long as the genetics are good I would buy off almost anyone.
HGK420, not sure what you're referring to when you say Blueberry magically cures up facing southwest at 61 degrees humidity. What I was saying is that those terpene's you're smelling as hay would have been different terpene's had you perhaps not over fertilized and or flushed better and cured slower.
I can also attest that not only do the mother Blueberry cuts perform alike in other conditions, but that the seeds do as well. What I am saying is perhaps you just haven't figured out those conditions, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, it's just how can I and so many others have such a different experience than you when it comes to finding those pungent sweet berry terpene's? And same goes for the Azure Haze. My experience and others I know were nothing like yours. The pheno's Im hearing being reported are pungent skunk berry funk. Some really unique terpene profile's are coming from that strain, so not sure what you're doing that's giving you such different results.
lol, obviously terpene profile and aroma/taste is huge, sorry for not answering. I didn't think you honestly needed an answer for that. And believe it or not, Im actually working on just that, breeding strains that I think would better suit people who want something easy to grow that they can fill up their flower rooms with. So, thanks for validating that that was something that is actually needed.
"But I do have one nitpicky thing to say, they absolutely COULD sell you a beverage called "Cola and Whiskey" that is composed of "Coca Cola and Jack Daniels". What they COULDN'T do is sell you a beverage called "Jack Daniels and Coke" that is made of "Maker's Mark and Pepsi" <<<< precisely, this is what I was trying to say. This and also that a bar can't pour the coke into a bottle with their bar's label on it and claim that it's their specialty cola.
"@Jd Short For instance, how do you feel about Humboldt Seed Organization's Blueberry Headband being described by them as "The Blueberry Headband originally came from our F3 Emerald Headband male crossed with DJ Short’s original Blueberry. This was bred out for our original project with the Emerald Triangle Seed Company. After its release we continued to work on the genetics, increasing the yield, building more resistance and furthering the flavor profile. Now at F6 status this girl is more stable than ever and ready for the public." <<< sounds awesome to me. I don't know the specifics of this circumstance. But it sounds totally legit to me, and I want to try it.
Again, Im not naming names or going to talk about specifics of any certain company in any further detail than I already have. We'll give that some more time and let some chips fall where they may yet. A lot of this is going to end up working itself out without my help or whining, so why would I risk putting myself in *too* much of a vulnerable position. You wanna know about the seed stock you buy, contact the seed companies and ask.
"As far as the bad luck with BlueBerry, All the old posts on BlueBerry were killer, everyone loved it and it was at the top of most peoples wanted list. But today I see a lot of posts of people saying it just isn't the same strain it used to be with its earlier generation."<<<Huh, I wonder how that could be. Perhaps that's because the market is saturated with knock-off's?
"It seems most strains used to have so much selection but today they have been bred so many generations you lose that" <<<I just want to say that's it's hard to deal with public complaints when they come back to back as, "this strain is too unstable to work with." And then, "this strain is so stable it's boring." What can I say, can't win em all, eh? That's why f2's are so awesome, right? But you'll need the most stable strain you can find to make your f2's. May I recommend Blueberry…lol, I kid.
"JD Short, I really don't mean to be bashing you at all. I am just trying to understand myself and be neutral about everything. I still do wish you luck here, and think if you learn a little bit about how things work online you will get the hang of it and be able to fit in.
A question of different topic - What blueberry did you run the 30 seeds with? Was it True blueberry, or Blueberry, or another? And out of all the strains your dad has what one do you recommend to get that nice coloring after a good flush, and good euphoric blueberry high and taste?" <<<thank you. And they were the f5 Blueberry's. And I recommend the Blueberry for what you're looking for. The whitaker blues has nice colors as well.
King Arthur, have fun with your Blueberry pheno hunt. If you wanna save a ton of money and time, I recommend getting the authentic f5's.
I can also attest that not only do the mother Blueberry cuts perform alike in other conditions, but that the seeds do as well. What I am saying is perhaps you just haven't figured out those conditions, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, it's just how can I and so many others have such a different experience than you when it comes to finding those pungent sweet berry terpene's? And same goes for the Azure Haze. My experience and others I know were nothing like yours. The pheno's Im hearing being reported are pungent skunk berry funk. Some really unique terpene profile's are coming from that strain, so not sure what you're doing that's giving you such different results.
lol, obviously terpene profile and aroma/taste is huge, sorry for not answering. I didn't think you honestly needed an answer for that. And believe it or not, Im actually working on just that, breeding strains that I think would better suit people who want something easy to grow that they can fill up their flower rooms with. So, thanks for validating that that was something that is actually needed.
"But I do have one nitpicky thing to say, they absolutely COULD sell you a beverage called "Cola and Whiskey" that is composed of "Coca Cola and Jack Daniels". What they COULDN'T do is sell you a beverage called "Jack Daniels and Coke" that is made of "Maker's Mark and Pepsi" <<<< precisely, this is what I was trying to say. This and also that a bar can't pour the coke into a bottle with their bar's label on it and claim that it's their specialty cola.
"@Jd Short For instance, how do you feel about Humboldt Seed Organization's Blueberry Headband being described by them as "The Blueberry Headband originally came from our F3 Emerald Headband male crossed with DJ Short’s original Blueberry. This was bred out for our original project with the Emerald Triangle Seed Company. After its release we continued to work on the genetics, increasing the yield, building more resistance and furthering the flavor profile. Now at F6 status this girl is more stable than ever and ready for the public." <<< sounds awesome to me. I don't know the specifics of this circumstance. But it sounds totally legit to me, and I want to try it.
Again, Im not naming names or going to talk about specifics of any certain company in any further detail than I already have. We'll give that some more time and let some chips fall where they may yet. A lot of this is going to end up working itself out without my help or whining, so why would I risk putting myself in *too* much of a vulnerable position. You wanna know about the seed stock you buy, contact the seed companies and ask.
"As far as the bad luck with BlueBerry, All the old posts on BlueBerry were killer, everyone loved it and it was at the top of most peoples wanted list. But today I see a lot of posts of people saying it just isn't the same strain it used to be with its earlier generation."<<<Huh, I wonder how that could be. Perhaps that's because the market is saturated with knock-off's?
"It seems most strains used to have so much selection but today they have been bred so many generations you lose that" <<<I just want to say that's it's hard to deal with public complaints when they come back to back as, "this strain is too unstable to work with." And then, "this strain is so stable it's boring." What can I say, can't win em all, eh? That's why f2's are so awesome, right? But you'll need the most stable strain you can find to make your f2's. May I recommend Blueberry…lol, I kid.
"JD Short, I really don't mean to be bashing you at all. I am just trying to understand myself and be neutral about everything. I still do wish you luck here, and think if you learn a little bit about how things work online you will get the hang of it and be able to fit in.
A question of different topic - What blueberry did you run the 30 seeds with? Was it True blueberry, or Blueberry, or another? And out of all the strains your dad has what one do you recommend to get that nice coloring after a good flush, and good euphoric blueberry high and taste?" <<<thank you. And they were the f5 Blueberry's. And I recommend the Blueberry for what you're looking for. The whitaker blues has nice colors as well.
King Arthur, have fun with your Blueberry pheno hunt. If you wanna save a ton of money and time, I recommend getting the authentic f5's.
King Arthur
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Maybe one day sunshine
I had to come back to add this for you, given you have no respect for other breeders I don't think I will ever purchase a pack of your beans. Seedsman is a very reputable and respected place to get beans especially at fair prices. I believe he might even sell your fathers seeds and I highly doubt he would even post them on his website if they were fake.
People may agree with some of the shit you bring to the table but from post one you got off on the wrong foot. First you started calling out seed companies ( what the hell makes you think they are reading this forum?) and then you go on to insult others. As much as I need to work on not being such a dick I think you need to man up and stop actin like such a bitch about this situation.
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greenghost420
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who are authorized dj/jd short distributors? where can i find the f5s?
King Arthur
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He already said he don't know anything about that, he is worthless.
DoctorFrost
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I am guessing just the "Blueberry" offered is the Blueberry F5s. What is the real difference in Blueberry and True Blueberry if you have grown them out JD?
Blueberry is out of stock at the tude, but they have True Blueberry, and Whitaker Blues,Grape Krush, Flo, Azure Haze, and Vanillua . Lots of interesting strains there. I am gonna have to look them up and see if I can find any info on them because most I haven't seen grows of.
Blueberry is out of stock at the tude, but they have True Blueberry, and Whitaker Blues,Grape Krush, Flo, Azure Haze, and Vanillua . Lots of interesting strains there. I am gonna have to look them up and see if I can find any info on them because most I haven't seen grows of.
King Arthur
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Am I the only one who finds him more annoying than swerve?
greenghost420
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lol yes its def annoying. he said dont use his name or call it blueberry, then example given has both and he says it sounds great and wants to try it? im a lil confused but i want a clear answer , whos distributing official dj genetics and where can the f5 be pickedf up. if hgk420 grew out the f5s im gonna be real disappointed...
King Arthur
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He does know how to get around the questions though lol.
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