the tendency to think evolution stopped from the neck down

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UncleBuck

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so i googled this very unique phrase that one of our members keeps using. this is what i got.

https://occamsrazormag.wordpress.com/category/political-philosophy/page/2/

And this is the primary problem with evolutionary psychology today — the tendency to think evolution stopped from the neck down some 50,000 years ago and that all races are behaviorally and cognitively the same.


sounds eerily similar, eh?

so i checked into the author and some of his other works. here is what i got...

Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry (@pegobry) jumps on the Marxist bandwagon

Genetics: White Americans are VERY white

Robert Wald Sussman’s religious catechism: “race does not exist”

Images of white ethnomasochism & pathological altruism

Will Catholic Church become an African wasteland?

Are Jews natural race realists?

Cthulhu and the White worldview







 

UncleBuck

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apparently, this line of thought stems from a new line of racism called "HBD" or 'human biodiversity' adherents.

it's their latest attempt to take their stupidity and try to re-label it into something more respectable sounding, kinda like what the 'creationists' did when they relabeled themselves as 'intelligent design' adherents.

there is absolutely zero scientific evidence to support this HBD theory about evolution from the neck up, but that won't stop them from pushing it endlessly anyway.
 

Pinworm

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so i googled this very unique phrase that one of our members keeps using. this is what i got.

https://occamsrazormag.wordpress.com/category/political-philosophy/page/2/

And this is the primary problem with evolutionary psychology today — the tendency to think evolution stopped from the neck down some 50,000 years ago and that all races are behaviorally and cognitively the same.


sounds eerily similar, eh?

so i checked into the author and some of his other works. here is what i got...

Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry (@pegobry) jumps on the Marxist bandwagon

Genetics: White Americans are VERY white

Robert Wald Sussman’s religious catechism: “race does not exist”

Images of white ethnomasochism & pathological altruism

Will Catholic Church become an African wasteland?

Are Jews natural race realists?

Cthulhu and the White worldview





Woa, some of that is almost verbatim to what GW posts. Do you think it's possible he could be getting paid to spam this stuff?
 

UncleBuck

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Woa, some of that is almost verbatim to what GW posts. Do you think it's possible he could be getting paid to spam this stuff?
not sure who would be paying him, but he is definitely plastering this bullshit across multiple websites that we know of.

i'm not sure why. he is either very dedicated to this white supremacist idea and doing it for free, or he is a paid stooge who is spamming us for money.
 

UncleBuck

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What does that mean? "Evolution stopped from the neck down"...
it's a line HBD racists use to argue for evolutionary racism/superiority.

it'll look completely stupid in another 100 years, but for right now, it is the white supremacy du jour.

they turn logical thinking on its head and argue that inequality is not caused by racism, but by genes.

ginwilly buys this crap hook line and sinker.
 

TBoneJack

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I guess it shows that scientists can be racists too.

I've often wondered why certain regions of the world were historically more advanced than others. For example, the English were advanced enough to sail the ocean to a new country. And they found a civilization of people who were still using rock tools and the like. At that same time, math and science had already saw humble beginnings in Europe, and a gun manufacturer (Beretta) would soon become an official brand name in gun production.

There must be some explanation for these differences. Regional variations in external stimuli. Some logical reason. Maybe a plague wiped out almost entire civilizations that had to then start over at just concentration on survival instead of having the luxury to sit comfortably long enough to begin pondering things in math and science.

Do scientists have a logical explanation?
 
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UncleBuck

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I guess it shows that scientists can be racists too.
no, this is a case of racists pretending to science. because there is no actual science to support their claims.


I've often wondered why certain regions of the world were historically more advanced than others.
great civilizations come and go, shit for brains. that's why these works of "scientific" racism look so incredibly stupid as time goes on.

One of Wade’s key data points is the rapid economic growth of East Asia in the past half-century: “In the early 1950s Ghana and South Korea had similar economies and levels of gross national product per capita. Some 30 years later, South Korea had become the 14th largest economy in the world, exporting sophisticated manufactures. Ghana had stagnated.” Wade approvingly quotes political scientist Samuel Huntington’s statement, “South Koreans valued thrift, investment, hard work, education, organization, and discipline. Ghanaians had different values.” And Wade attributes these attitudes toward thrift, investment, etc., to the Koreans’ East Asian genes.

This all fits together and could well be true. But ... what if Wade had been writing his book in 1954 rather than 2014? Would we still be hearing about the Korean values of thrift, organization, and discipline? A more logical position, given the economic history up to that time, would be to consider the poverty of East Asia to be never-changing, perhaps an inevitable result of their genes for conformity and the lack of useful evolution after thousands of years of relative peace. We might also be hearing a lot about Japan’s genetic exclusion from the rest of Asia, along with a patient explanation of why we should not expect China and Korea to attain any rapid economic success.

In any era, racism is typically supported by comparing two groups that are socially unequal and with clear physical differences. But both these sorts of comparisons are moving targets.



For example, the English were advanced enough to sail the ocean to a new country. And they found a civilization of people who were still using rock tools and the like. At that same time, math and science had already saw humble beginnings in Europe, and a gun manufacturer (Beretta) would soon become an official brand name in gun production.
math and science were imported to europe from muslim nations actually, shit for brains.

The system of numbering in use all round the world is probably Indian in origin but the style of the numerals is Arabic and first appears in print in the work of the Muslim mathematicians al-Khwarizmi and al-Kindi around 825. Algebra was named after al-Khwarizmi's book, Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah, much of whose contents are still in use. The work of Muslim maths scholars was imported into Europe 300 years later by the Italian mathematician Fibonacci. Algorithms and much of the theory of trigonometry came from the Muslim world. And Al-Kindi's discovery of frequency analysis rendered all the codes of the ancient world soluble and created the basis of modern cryptology.

The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.

Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan emphasised systematic experimentation and was the founder of modern chemistry.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html
 

TBoneJack

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no, this is a case of racists pretending to science. because there is no actual science to support their claims.

great civilizations come and go, shit for brains. that's why these works of "scientific" racism look so incredibly stupid as time goes on.

One of Wade’s key data points is the rapid economic growth of East Asia in the past half-century: “In the early 1950s Ghana and South Korea had similar economies and levels of gross national product per capita. Some 30 years later, South Korea had become the 14th largest economy in the world, exporting sophisticated manufactures. Ghana had stagnated.” Wade approvingly quotes political scientist Samuel Huntington’s statement, “South Koreans valued thrift, investment, hard work, education, organization, and discipline. Ghanaians had different values.” And Wade attributes these attitudes toward thrift, investment, etc., to the Koreans’ East Asian genes.

This all fits together and could well be true. But ... what if Wade had been writing his book in 1954 rather than 2014? Would we still be hearing about the Korean values of thrift, organization, and discipline? A more logical position, given the economic history up to that time, would be to consider the poverty of East Asia to be never-changing, perhaps an inevitable result of their genes for conformity and the lack of useful evolution after thousands of years of relative peace. We might also be hearing a lot about Japan’s genetic exclusion from the rest of Asia, along with a patient explanation of why we should not expect China and Korea to attain any rapid economic success.

In any era, racism is typically supported by comparing two groups that are socially unequal and with clear physical differences. But both these sorts of comparisons are moving targets.





math and science were imported to europe from muslim nations actually, shit for brains.

The system of numbering in use all round the world is probably Indian in origin but the style of the numerals is Arabic and first appears in print in the work of the Muslim mathematicians al-Khwarizmi and al-Kindi around 825. Algebra was named after al-Khwarizmi's book, Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah, much of whose contents are still in use. The work of Muslim maths scholars was imported into Europe 300 years later by the Italian mathematician Fibonacci. Algorithms and much of the theory of trigonometry came from the Muslim world. And Al-Kindi's discovery of frequency analysis rendered all the codes of the ancient world soluble and created the basis of modern cryptology.

The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.

Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan emphasised systematic experimentation and was the founder of modern chemistry.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html
I have no problem with math and science originating in the middle east, turd head.
 

TBoneJack

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So Buck, why were the American Indian civilizations still using rock tools while the English people who discovered them were able to navigate the oceans and were already into metallurgy?

Did the middle east teach the English how to navigate oceans and work with metals?
 

TBoneJack

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then why did you say they were finding their humble beginnings in europe and try to attribute greater advancement to europeans?
Because I was wrong. You corrected me, and that's fine with me. You were right and I was wrong about the beginnings of science and mathematics.

But I guess the reason I assumed what I did was because the vast majority of great mathematicians and scientists were European.

The Greatest Mathematicians of All Time




http://www.fabpedigree.com/james/mathmen.htm
 
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