Islam: Evil or misunderstood

ccodiane

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Islam, as it is routinely practiced and preached, is pretty bassackwards, considering the progress humans have made in regard to equality of the sexes. To the point where disdain of the entire religion is acceptable, in my opinion. If they want to hold the views they do, regarding inferiority of women, fine. But to consider them, muslims as a group, on par with freedom loving humans, who see their mothers, sisters, and daughters as equals, seems irrational. They are truly inferior beings, the majority of died in the wool muslim men, with an oppressive mentality which they wish to spread. No wonder Libs always defend them.

Who enforces, literally enforces, the practicing and preaching part?...................................:blsmoke:
 

mockingbird131313

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What the difference between Tibet and Xinjiang, both are seeking independence from china

The independece movement in Xinjiang dosent deserve autonomy because they are muslim?

You might say they use terrorism as a tactic...................but didn't jews use terrorism in the holy land to expel the brittish in the 1920's and 1930's.....................didn't we the U.S. use terrorism ie. Shermans march to the sea in the civil war......................................is judasim an evil force or is christianity an evil force
The topic is: "Islam: Evil or misunderstood(?)". Your response is way out of bounds. All I will say is this, muslims do all kinds of things, in the name of religion. Killing innocent people is fine, if they think Mohammed would approve. Their culture is evil and insane.

Todays AP story is just another example of the evil that this thread is about.
 

blazin waffles

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Killing innocent people is fine, if they think Mohammed would approve. Their culture is evil and insane.
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Once again it boils down to the person practicing.
Christians killed inocent people b/c they thought JC would approve! Same thing just different.
To say their culture is evil and insane is to broad to be realistic.

It comes down to perception. . . . . . .if you feel those that percieve Allah's words a certain way, to be evil and insane then you could be right. Just like the crazy fucks that misinterpret the bible.

:peace:
 

ccodiane

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The numbers/percentage of "fundamentals" of any religion should be the topic.....in which case, Islam is indeed "evil". The majority of them, practicing muslims, have a warped 12th century mentality; all in the name of God.
 

mjetta

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Using the word majority is an Iffy word codiene, thats really just speculation, unless you can back it up with fact. how many muslims have you known personally? Ive never ever met one who agrees with that mentality. Anyone in Detriot knows what im sayin LOL
 

blazin waffles

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The numbers/percentage of "fundamentals" of any religion should be the topic.....in which case, Islam is indeed "evil". The majority of them, practicing muslims, have a warped 12th century mentality; all in the name of God.
Are you talking about the majority of those that are on the news or as a whole. . . . .The people that i know that are Islamic are actually very nice respectful people. The biggest difference is that women can't dress like sluts. If a girl comes into my friends fathers house and is dressed inapropriatly he will ask them to change (even offer cloths if they have none) or politely ask them to leave.

I know christioan families that do the same!!

:peace:
 

ccodiane

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Using the word majority is an Iffy word codiene, thats really just speculation, unless you can back it up with fact. how many muslims have you known personally? Ive never ever met one who agrees with that mentality. Anyone in Detriot knows what im sayin LOL
Dearbornastan.......
 

ccodiane

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One question....do the majority think women are inferior, yes or no? There is our answer. Let's not even talk about the popular Islamic acceptance, worldwide, of the caliphates return, and what a glorious day that will be.
 

ccodiane

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Better point.....give me the name of an Imam who espouses freedom for all. I know they are out there, only few and far between, though. I will read what your Imam espouses/posts and hopefully learn the error of my ways.
 

ccodiane

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Are you talking about the majority of those that are on the news or as a whole. . . . .The people that i know that are Islamic are actually very nice respectful people. The biggest difference is that women can't dress like sluts. If a girl comes into my friends fathers house and is dressed inapropriatly he will ask them to change (even offer cloths if they have none) or politely ask them to leave.

I know christioan families that do the same!!

:peace:
I have yet to hear of a mercy killing perpetrated by a Christian father who's daughter dated somebody other than a Christian. Enlighten me.
 

mjetta

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Dearbornastan.......
LOL true

One question....do the majority think women are inferior, yes or no? There is our answer. Let's not even talk about the popular Islamic acceptance, worldwide, of the caliphates return, and what a glorious day that will be.
No, they dont. And once again were looking at the religion, not the people. Show me in the koran where it says woman are inferior creatures

"when a man and woman marry, whats hers stays hers and whats his becomes hers"

Better point.....give me the name of an Imam who espouses freedom for all. I know they are out there, only few and far between, though. I will read what your Imam espouses/posts and hopefully learn the error of my ways.
Actually, its the majority, the media always questions, "why arent moderate muslims condemning acts of violence? Well, they are, its just not given a voice in the media

I have yet to hear of a mercy killing perpetrated by a Christian father who's daughter dated somebody other than a Christian. Enlighten me.
Your right man. The priests just rape little boys at the church instead
 

ccodiane

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LOL true

I KNOW....

No, they dont. And once again were looking at the religion, not the people. Show me in the koran where it says woman are inferior creatures

Yes, they DO.

"when a man and woman marry, whats hers stays hers and whats his becomes hers"

So what.....?


Actually, its the majority, the media always questions, "why arent moderate muslims condemning acts of violence? Well, they are, its just not given a voice in the media

Yeah, and never a name to research. Give me ONE.


Your right man. The priests just rape little boys at the church instead
I see where you are coming from......take the worst case, isolated scenario of one religion and compare it against an entire religion to validate their fucked up beliefs. Daniel Pearl comes to mind.......
 

ccodiane

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There is ferment among Muslim women, especially the intellectuals, which has not been much noticed. Faezeh Hashemi is a member of Iran's Parliament, chairperson of the Islamic Women's Olympics Committee and, incidentally, daughter of former President Ali Akbar Hashemi. She had some sharp comments to make on the subject in a little noticed interview to a Western news agency (DPA). It will come as a surprise to many. She said that Islam had always been interpreted by men in a way that secured their own interests. "Men have always been the main Islamic scholars, those who interpreted the Islamic laws and implemented these interpretations." She added: "Men manipulated Islamic laws during the course of history and implemented them to secure their own interests. What we are doing in the Majlis (Parliament) right now is to separate this and get some advantages for women."

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1508/15080740.htm
 

mjetta

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I think i see what your saying codeine. The common theme seems to be occuring here, the religion itself isnt the problem, its the people who practice it.

In the pre-islamic arab world, burying female babys was common practice. But back in those days arabs were christians, jews, and polytheists. So are you gonna say in those days its was because of religion? no, because it was a cultural thing.

Take stoning adulters for instance. No where in Islamic law is this mandated. But if you ask the people who practice this, they will cite islamic law as the reason, simply because its convenient. But if you ask them to show the law, the will have nothing to say.

Its the ignorant people who really ruin the image of any group
 

medicineman

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I'm pretty sure most cultures give women less voice and less rights. Even in our illustrious country, women are not yet considered equal in general. There are a few exceptions, but generally, women get less pay for the same job. If the truth be known, I'd have to say women are smarter and more able to cope with stress and pain then men, but then that is just my experience. In some way's i'm smarter than my wife but in others she blows me away. she is very good at making ends meet in this perilous economy, and keeps track of all the bills and everything that makes life work. She is the best ever. BTW, I make sure to tell her periodically.
 

mockingbird131313

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Killing innocent people is fine, if they think Mohammed would approve. Their culture is evil and insane.
quote]

Once again it boils down to the person practicing.
Christians killed inocent people b/c they thought JC would approve! Same thing just different.
To say their culture is evil and insane is to broad to be realistic.

It comes down to perception. . . . . . .if you feel those that percieve Allah's words a certain way, to be evil and insane then you could be right. Just like the crazy fucks that misinterpret the bible.

:peace:
This thread has nothing to do with Christian behavior. This thread is about muslim behavior.

I say again, Islam is an evil entity.
 

pobamela

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Islam, like every religion, in substance is good. But like every religion, has its fondamentalistics. Speaking of women treatment, in theory the Bible too don't represent the women in a good way, but the interpretation and hidden modification of the Book hides this thing. The Koran is different becouse the Islam has no Pope or Hight Bosses, every one can be his priest, so there aren't hidden modification. All the books come from 2000yrs ago, remember that.
 
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