AquariusPanta
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It would evenly cover it well, offering around 700 PPFD.
Thank you! I call em' wings!
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Thank you! I call em' wings!
alesh
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I don't have such a setup so I cannot confirm. But I wouldn't try it as there's a quite bit chance that it won't work properly.
puffenuff
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Good looking light! I actually like the build and craftsmanship a lot more than I thought I would from seeing the drawing. Nice work.A few photos that are a little over due...
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AquariusPanta
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@puffenuff
Hah, yeah drawings, whether by hand or computer, are always going to slightly differ from the real thing. I'm glad that you enjoyed my work, now will you be paying with credit or debit?
lol
bicit
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Hot swapping cobs like that is not recommended by bridgelux or meanwell and can potentially damage both components. Aside from the fact that it's not kosher to work on electronics like that while live.
@puffenuff
Hah, yeah drawings, whether by hand or computer, are always going to slightly differ from the real thing. I'm glad that you enjoyed my work, now will you be paying with credit or debit?
lol
Also, 11:30 video is waaaaaaaaaay to long. Cut it down to less than 2 min, I don't like searching video's for the good part.
constructive criticism.
AquariusPanta
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I guess you could call me bit of an outlaw and a daredevil.
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Also, can you share with me and others where BridgeLux and MeanWell specifically mention NOT "hot swapping", so that I can confirm this and detour others from attempting this approach?
I can see where it may irritate the COB with non-steady fluctuations of energy but have never experienced any troubles with this method and have 'hot swapped' well over a few dozen times over the last six months.
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bicit
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Page 15 of AN32 on bridgelux website indicates that testing should be done with the individual driver. Probably only a problem with cheaper drivers, but still something to take into consideration.I guess you could call me bit of an outlaw and a daredevil.
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Also, can you share with me and others where BridgeLux and MeanWell specifically mention NOT "hot swapping", so that I can confirm this and detour others from attempting this approach?
I can see where it may irritate the COB with non-steady fluctuations of energy but have never experienced any troubles with this method and have 'hot swapped' well over a few dozen times over the last six months.
I could have sworn I saw an advisory against this in the PDF's for the drivers, but I can't seem to find it now.
It's still not something that you should be advising your customers to do. Those pico EZ-mates are not the sturdiest and not everyone has gentle fingers
. How hard is it to switch the lamp off for 30 seconds?
AquariusPanta
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Thank you for sharing this tid-bit of information! It would seem that after my thorough testing that the Model-V does carry with it the ability to hot swap. How cool!Page 15 of AN32 on bridgelux website indicates that testing should be done with the individual driver. Probably only a problem with cheaper drivers, but still something to take into consideration.
I could have sworn I saw an advisory against this in the PDF's for the drivers, but I can't seem to find it now.
It's still not something that you should be advising your customers to do. Those pico EZ-mates are not the sturdiest and not everyone has gentle fingers
I planned on uploading a video (or two) next week, so expect a quicker, more enlightening demonstration of swapping out modules in the near future. Who knows, maybe it will be less that two minutes long, like Bridgelux's Pico video
bicit
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I'd consult a lawyer first.... Although the cob may handle it. Getting sued because one of your customers tore out the wire and shocked themselves would suck. I'm a bit of a pessimist like that.Thank you for sharing this tid-bit of information! It would seem that after my thorough testing that the Model-V does carry with it the ability to hot swap. How cool!
I planned on uploading a video (or two) next week, so expect a quicker, more enlightening demonstration of swapping out modules in the near future. Who knows, maybe it will be less that two minutes long, like Bridgelux's Pico video
Just my thoughts, feel free to discard them.
AquariusPanta
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That be the nature of the deh game, unfortunately.
Someone be mad jelly ya'll.
Randomblame
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Hey Shig!ty Randomblame
it would be nice 2 know that 4 x Vero 29 v2 work with the HLG 185H C1400
Vero's lineup has more red instead of Cree's lineup has more blue
i would rather use cobs who has more red for a grow than some who has more blue in a warm white COB
doesnt matter if they got more lumen/lux / whatever if they are near each other and they are actually
ps: testiclees the buds look really wonderful
Yesterday I found a recent post on the topic. Supra says that 4 Vero29 2.0 will probably work with a HLG-185, at least most! Here is his post:
https://www.rollitup.org/t/led-cob-bar-project.874955/#post-11694553
Sounds logical to me and I will try soon!
Randomblame
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Page 15 of AN32 on bridgelux website indicates that testing should be done with the individual driver. Probably only a problem with cheaper drivers, but still something to take into consideration.
I could have sworn I saw an advisory against this in the PDF's for the drivers, but I can't seem to find it now.
It's still not something that you should be advising your customers to do. Those pico EZ-mates are not the sturdiest and not everyone has gentle fingers
Hell yeah!
I have destroyed 3 pico EZ-mates while trying to remove them and you can ask my girlfriend, I have gentle fingers, Lol!
The problem is, the connectors are too small and needs very small cable cross-section. The AWG28 tears as fast like cobwebs!
@Aquaplanta!
Nice vid, maybe a bit too long, but good! I like the movable heatsinks!
Really good idea!
Any plans for a V29 or CXB based lamp?
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Shig87
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AquariusPanta
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O wow, I use the 18/28AWG EZ-mate connectors and they've always held up nicely. The only trouble I get from them is when they want to go one way and it's contrary to the way I wanna go.
Anything's possible. Stay tuned!
OneHitDone
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I have a few thoughts on what it is going to take for a cob panel builder be top of the game:
GG has a good approach targeting a specific lamp (CMH) footprint to match as a 1:1 replacement.
But for a flower light I think it needs to be determined the height and area (say 18" diameter canopy at 24" Height etc) at which the COB used provides 800-1000µmol and the fixture designed to hold 1 - 2 COBS spaced to provide coverage as such and allow MANY units to be linked together.
Then the big boy grower has solid data to know if I buy x amount of units and hang them at x height I am covered.
I really don't see the point in having cobs sliding around on rails other than to greatly increase the chance of a mechanical / electrical failure
My $.02 anyways
GG has a good approach targeting a specific lamp (CMH) footprint to match as a 1:1 replacement.
But for a flower light I think it needs to be determined the height and area (say 18" diameter canopy at 24" Height etc) at which the COB used provides 800-1000µmol and the fixture designed to hold 1 - 2 COBS spaced to provide coverage as such and allow MANY units to be linked together.
Then the big boy grower has solid data to know if I buy x amount of units and hang them at x height I am covered.
I really don't see the point in having cobs sliding around on rails other than to greatly increase the chance of a mechanical / electrical failure
My $.02 anyways
testiclees
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Id like to test out the moveable cobs. I think that feature might be useful in my garden when there is a lot of variability in number and growth habit of plants.
I agree that solid performance details showing µmols @ determined height and spectral measurements would be first class.
I agree that solid performance details showing µmols @ determined height and spectral measurements would be first class.
JimmyIndica
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heavenbright will be best at providing even coverage over a screen where girls cant be moved or low ceiling height for a less wattage more cob approach! I havnt seen any better fixture for a ceiling height 5ft n under?
HiloReign
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Although I like the idea of moving around each individual COB I'd have to agree that it could be a potential problem (grabbing the uncovered fan, tugging a wire loose, etc.).
And IDK about "best at providing even coverage", wouldn't moving them around create an uneven coverage and potentially dead spots if they're moved too far apart/close together? Or is this something that has been tested and measured?
IMO pre-selected spots for the COBs to sit and provide even coverage (while allowing adjustments) would be a good way to get the best of both worlds.
And IDK about "best at providing even coverage", wouldn't moving them around create an uneven coverage and potentially dead spots if they're moved too far apart/close together? Or is this something that has been tested and measured?
IMO pre-selected spots for the COBs to sit and provide even coverage (while allowing adjustments) would be a good way to get the best of both worlds.