Trump will shut down mosques in America.
- Thread starter BM9AGS
- Start date
Darth Vapour
Well-Known Member
You got that all wrong its up to batman to rid all the villains , got to love this god thing However, it should be noted that while proving nonexistence is a logical impossibility, proving existence on the basis of fideism (by faith) is harder still.The mortal enemy of faith is knowledge
Darth Vapour
Well-Known Member
Mission
- Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
- Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]
- Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
- 15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]
- 16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde".
Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225]
- First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]
- Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/96 thousands. [WW23]
- 9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27]
- Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30]
- after 6/3/98 Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents—save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60] - Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]
- Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40]
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude") - The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79]
- Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]
- Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]
- Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]
- Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224]
Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.
- Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany [DO26]
- Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]
- Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians...viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181] - Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181]
- subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated. [WW183]
- After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324. [WW183]
- Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone), [WW183]
- Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World).
- Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28]
- John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415. [LI475-522]
- University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna. [DO59]
- Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on 2/17/1600.
Witches
- from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several thousand.
- in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV]
- incomplete list of documented cases:
The Burning of Witches - A Chronicle of the Burning Times
- 15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]
- 1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all English as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into action). [DO31]
- 1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in (then Spanish) Netherlands. Thousands were actually slain. [DO31]
- 1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee. [DO31]
- 17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head, his hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but] then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they hauled it out again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of Montfaulcon, 'to be meat and carrion for maggots and crows'." [SH191]
- 17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers." [SH191]
- 17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32]
(I feel sick ...) this goes on and on, century after century, right into the kilns of Auschwitz.
Darth Vapour
Well-Known Member
If you really look at it Christians have killed 8 times more then muslims ever have maybe they been looking at this all wrong maybe just maybe all christians should be culled
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/are-christians-more-violent-than-muslims/
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/are-christians-more-violent-than-muslims/
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
You need to stop using the past as your defense. Those people thought the world was flat and God never told them it wasn`t.
America was created by Christians running away from all those phonies. America does not kill in the name of a God.
Maybe you should make a list of what the non believers did.
You conveniently leave out the reason these wars were conducted, were the killings due to offense or defense because it matters.
Post things that mean something, like Christians killing millions because they were defending themselves or Christians killing millions because they felt like it. or, Christians killing others because it says to in their Bible,...
I know Russia never harmed it`s own people or others, but some people were defending themselves. Sort all that out.
Instead you basically say that things get wet when it rains.......
America was created by Christians running away from all those phonies. America does not kill in the name of a God.
Maybe you should make a list of what the non believers did.
You conveniently leave out the reason these wars were conducted, were the killings due to offense or defense because it matters.
Post things that mean something, like Christians killing millions because they were defending themselves or Christians killing millions because they felt like it. or, Christians killing others because it says to in their Bible,...
I know Russia never harmed it`s own people or others, but some people were defending themselves. Sort all that out.
Instead you basically say that things get wet when it rains.......
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
So they are better at it than the bad guys because they have more drive,...that`s horrible.
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
Muslims killing Muslims don`t count,...Correct ??
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
You must have missed the witness accounts recorded by people with no internet.
Darth Vapour
Well-Known Member
Hmm interesting america does not kill in the name of god ???
George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month.
Mr Bush revealed the extent of his religious fervour when he met a Palestinian delegation during the Israeli-Palestinian summit at the Egpytian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, four months after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.
One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
Mr Bush went on: "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."
George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month.
Mr Bush revealed the extent of his religious fervour when he met a Palestinian delegation during the Israeli-Palestinian summit at the Egpytian resort of Sharm el-Sheikh, four months after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.
One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
Mr Bush went on: "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."
Not GOP
Well-Known Member
@Darth Vapor Why do you let them so easily turn this into a Christian thread?
Christians in the middle east are living in fear for their lives every day,
and they want to turn this into a crusade thread. don't let them
Christians in the middle east are living in fear for their lives every day,
and they want to turn this into a crusade thread. don't let them
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
George Bush is not America, he is on man that was in charge. You fail to see the difference. no, you actually refuse to see the difference. Your words mean nothing if you do.
My neighbor and I had nothing to do with that JDAM that wrecked a hospital,...but if you want to believe we did,...That must be the Communist way.
I wont blame Russian people for Putin`s actions and you should not either.
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize,...not me and my kids,...see how that goes ?
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
Look at it this way,...you poke a cow it moves, you stick it again it moves over again, you poke it some it moves some more, you corner that cow and poke it, run, cuz it`s her turn now.
Darth Vapour
Well-Known Member
bush represented america so yes MericA
Bottom line you appear to believe in God ?? and its your right to but ask your self how many prayers have come true lol ,,,
Its not me that has to prove there is a god its you and your beliefs ..
with all he termoil on your so called Gods world why for the life of me has he not shown himself ?? History has shown the bible being changed to fit a agenda ..
i am really looking forward to the next New testament where it will say Love thy GAY Neighbor..
Was there a jesus ?? i know there must be a superman , or spiderman , shit took the kids to disney land i know for a fact there is Mickey mouse so him personally , show me your god got any pictures matter of fact was your so called jesus nailed or stapled to the post ?? cause god for bid the lies started even then with him being nailed to a cross its been scientifically proven no body that a nail in the hands or even wrist would support a body let alone keep him erect lol so which is it was he nailed to a cross or is that fake also
Bottom line you appear to believe in God ?? and its your right to but ask your self how many prayers have come true lol ,,,
Its not me that has to prove there is a god its you and your beliefs ..
with all he termoil on your so called Gods world why for the life of me has he not shown himself ?? History has shown the bible being changed to fit a agenda ..
i am really looking forward to the next New testament where it will say Love thy GAY Neighbor..
Was there a jesus ?? i know there must be a superman , or spiderman , shit took the kids to disney land i know for a fact there is Mickey mouse so him personally , show me your god got any pictures matter of fact was your so called jesus nailed or stapled to the post ?? cause god for bid the lies started even then with him being nailed to a cross its been scientifically proven no body that a nail in the hands or even wrist would support a body let alone keep him erect lol so which is it was he nailed to a cross or is that fake also
Last edited:
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
God did all man asked of him,...now it`s man`s turn to do for him.
Like me, you learn the truth upon death,...
This will hold you to the ceiling by one hand, come over and I`ll prove that
Tell us all about killings and leave out why,...you do that well.
Like me, you learn the truth upon death,...
This will hold you to the ceiling by one hand, come over and I`ll prove that
Tell us all about killings and leave out why,...you do that well.
Darth Vapour
Well-Known Member
Speaking of jesus was there even a jesus i mean they found Egyptian mummies of kings and queeens well before that clowns life so why is it there is no jesus could this be another fake BS thing ?? i mean really think about it for a minute for anyone to believe there was a jesus r even a god is in my mind one seriously fucked up person i mean think about it i wake up jump in my truck did god decide for me to run that red light ?? or stop how fucking stupid does that sound god decides right from wrong ,, i decide my fate if i want to rob a bank tomorow i decide not god i i want to give some bum a 20 dollar bill i decided not god
As far as i am concerned anyone believing in this non sense is lost end of story
like a little puppet or slave beng told what to do you better do this or god will dis own you only in religion they will scare the shit out of you while your alive but also use the stupid after life or there benfit also you better give money to the church this will allow you a better after life
WTF religion is only for all the sorry fucks in the world with no meaning and following a religion or believing in a god makes them feel part of it lol pathetic really
You only you put food on the table not GOD you only you can make a difference or the better sure the fuck not a GOD
As far as i am concerned anyone believing in this non sense is lost end of story
like a little puppet or slave beng told what to do you better do this or god will dis own you only in religion they will scare the shit out of you while your alive but also use the stupid after life or there benfit also you better give money to the church this will allow you a better after life
WTF religion is only for all the sorry fucks in the world with no meaning and following a religion or believing in a god makes them feel part of it lol pathetic really
You only you put food on the table not GOD you only you can make a difference or the better sure the fuck not a GOD
The_Herban_Legend
Well-Known Member
With all the fictitious gods created by man, I bet your fictitious god is the TRUTH! I would bet a dollar!
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
The fact you want a picture that has to be taken 2,000 years ago,....What`s the word for that ?
Oh ya, the word is,.....Russian.
Oh ya, the word is,.....Russian.
The_Herban_Legend
Well-Known Member
You don't remember the story in the bible about Jesus wiping out armies with only 2 fish? Good shit!
OddBall1st
Well-Known Member
You die and it over,...God.
You look for the body of a man that has risen from the dead,......the word is again,....Russian.
The one thing God gave all men is choice,....so yes, you can choose.