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FauxRoux

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The_Herban_Legend said:
I know you are a big fan of Karl Marx, what is your perception of Che Guervara?
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Im guessing your problem with them being they are "dirty commies".

Nothing like staking right and wrong on general ideal/labels instead of seeing the logic in creating a system that might actually function regardless of if its a mishmash of ideologies or not.
 
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The_Herban_Legend said:
I think his initial intentions to bring attention to hunger and poverty through radicalization was great and had real purpose. However, the ends show that he actually helped impoverish the Cubans.
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He did bail and leave the joint to castro pretty quick. I always wondered what his end game was suppose to be? If he was even thinking that far.

So in your opinion would you say he was as responsable for the direction cuba took as castro?

I mean, he did die pretty early into its inception.
 
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FauxRoux said:
He did bail and leave the joint to castro pretty quick. I always wondered what his end game was suppose to be? If he was even thinking that far.

So in your opinion would you say he was as responsable for the direction cuba took as castro?

I mean, he did die pretty early into its inception.
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I think he was the more radical of the two but I don't think he was as powerful politically nor intellectually, compared to Castro. I think what ultimately did Cuba in was the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Edit: I don't think history is painting an accurate account of Castro's intelligence. He is/was ( is he still alive?) extremely intelligent, suspect in the assassination of J.F.K., and defied the U.S. and lived to tell about it.
 
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FauxRoux said:
He did bail and leave the joint to castro pretty quick. I always wondered what his end game was suppose to be? If he was even thinking that far.

So in your opinion would you say he was as responsable for the direction cuba took as castro?

I mean, he did die pretty early into its inception.
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I'm not the best speller but for someone like you that calls other people uneducated you sure are a fucking lame that can't spell responsible and suck my run on sentence ya bitch
 
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MrStickyScissors said:
I'm not the best speller but for someone like you that calls other people uneducated you sure are a fucking lame that can't spell responsible and suck my run on sentence ya bitch
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Im typing on a phone. But sure. You certainly "Trumped" my long list of intelligent remarks with that. :roll:

Im "A fucking lame" huh? Lol...you sure showed me.
 
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The_Herban_Legend said:
I think he was the more radical of the two but I don't think he was as powerful politically nor intellectually, compared to Castro. I think what ultimately did Cuba in was the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Edit: I don't think history is painting an accurate account of Castro's intelligence. He is/was ( is he still alive?) extremely intelligent, suspect in the assassination of J.F.K., and the defied the U.S. and lived to tell about it.
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He died in 2008. I would for the most part completely agree, although I always got the impression he was never considered anybodies fool. I wonder if Cuba would have fared better if prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union Fidel had not spent the previous 20 years becoming involved in so many incidents across south america.
 
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I suppose that depends on how you look at it.

As has already been pointed out (and to the best of my knowledge) he started his business career by being handed millions from his father rather than being a brilliant investor as he would like people to believe .

I believe his initial investments with the money from his father was spent in real estate. Which if you look at the history of from new york in the 80's is appaling and morally bankrupt. Basically he takes risks with other peoples money...if he fails the investors lose...if he doesnt he makes a mint. He IS the definition of big buisness that bribes and corrupts our politicians (as he freely brags about for gods sake). Rebulicans complain about politicians that are bought and sold by private monay and then somehow think it makes sense to elect a president that admits HE was 1 of the guys doing the buying. Brilliant!

so...has he made money? Without doubt. With a combination of inheritance....the general publics naivete of his ability to self-promote...and government help.
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First off his occupation is that of an "investor" and the people that get involved with him are also. There's a reason it's termed "investing".

Look, a little simple arithmetic, using published numbers supports his claim that he's better than the average joe at making money. He borrowed 1*10^6 to start his initial real estate investment and he's worth on the ave approx 5*10^9. That ratio speaks for itself.

But this stuff is really a diversion. The conversation ought to focus on which if any of all the combined candidates have a sound plan to provide enough economic growth to support either the Rep plans for tax reductions or the Dem plans for increased social spending.

To that end, have you or anybody else read any specific, detailed plan on how any of these guys expect to accomplish economic growth? If any of them have a specific plan, they ain't sharing on their web pages. But they all have an invite to donate. Quite sicking actually.

What's really wrong with this whole process is that, we're voting for salesman in chief. Even more nauseating is the realization that there is no mechanism to hold any of these guys accountable for their claims.
 
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FauxRoux

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god1 said:
First off his occupation is that of an "investor" and the people that get involved with him are also. There's a reason it's termed "investing".

Look, a little simple arithmetic, using published numbers supports his claim that he's better than the average joe at making money. He borrowed 1*10^6 to start his initial real estate investment and he's worth on the ave approx 5*10^9. That ratio speaks for itself.

But this stuff is really a diversion. The conversation ought to focus on which if any of all the combined candidates have a sound plan to provide enough economic growth to support either the Rep plans for tax reductions or the Dem plans for increased social spending.

To that end, have you or anybody else read any specific, detailed plan on how any of these guys expect to accomplish economic growth? If any of them have a specific plan, they ain't sharing on their web pages. But they all have an invite to donate. Quite sicking actually.

What's really wrong with this whole process is that, we're voting for salesman in chief. Even more nauseating is the realization that there is no mechanism to hold any of these guys accountable for their claims.
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Good points. When I bring up trumps buisness record I'm usually pointing out his lack of social ethics used to make a profit. I feel that having someone who promises to turn around a bad economy to be a mute point if they aren't a trustworthy or ethically upright individual. But as you just pointed out NONE of our politicians really are. Agreed.

But personally I would rather vote for a politician with a proven track record of mostly walking his talk even if I don't fully agree with all his points, then someone like Trump with a proven history of a morality akin to being willing to sell his own grandmother's ass off in T.J. for a peso.

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What source do you have that confirms this? I assume he is dead but have never got conformation.
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I don't know what to tell you on that 1 man. My buddy billy had a closed casket funeral in the 90's so by that logic maybe he's still living in his folks basement. Considering how old he would be today...and how many years he spent really fucking with major powers while living out in the open I can't imagine there would be any logic to faking his death.

My sources being Castro's brother who took over running Cuba when he died and made the announcement to the world. I remember seeing it....it was in the papers...(shrug). Beyond that I don't know what to tell ya.
 
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The_Herban_Legend

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Good points. When I bring up trumps buisness record I'm usually pointing out his lack of social ethics used to make a profit. I feel that having someone who promises to turn around a bad economy to be a mute point if they aren't a trustworthy or ethically upright individual. But as you just pointed out NONE of our politicians really are. Agreed.

But personally I would rather vote for a politician with a proven track record of mostly walking his talk even if I don't fully agree with all his points, then someone like Trump with a proven history of a morality akin to being willing to sell his own grandmother's ass off in T.J. for a peso.


I don't know what to tell you on that 1 man. My buddy billy had a closed casket funeral in the 90's so by that logic maybe he's still living in his folks basement. Considering how old he would be today...and how many years he spent really fucking with major powers while living out in the open I can't imagine there would be any logic to faking his death.

My sources being Castro's brother who took over running Cuba when he died and made the announcement to the world. I remember seeing it....it was in the papers...(shrug). Beyond that I don't know what to tell ya.
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There is no official confirmation of his death. Wikipedia says he is alive.:shock:
 
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Kind of like how you didn't graduate from High School, and then failed your GED exam.

I know because you made a typo in your user name, it should be Not GED.

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