A Cannabinerd's Journey

[AlphaPhase]

@Aeroknow what were the old cubes you used to use called? Just realized these things hold way more water for some reason and been over watering these cuts, they look mostly healthy but zero roots on 95% of em? What's the difference between these and the old ones, I don't think I like those plugs for hydro only 3 of them have roots coming out of the pots so I pulled out a plug and it had zero roots growing and was Hella soaked and it only gets watered 3x a day and only just touching the bottom or water not even touching the cube at all on some and still soaked? Do these have crazy wicking tendency?

 

[AlphaPhase]

Well I gave all of them a tug and most are rooted in place, one did come out besides this one and the plug wasn't soaked and the roots were bright white, but only like 3" long so I put it back in since it looks healthy. This one came right out, so weird, it was at the back of the tray which has a Lower flood level so I dunno, I'll chalk it up to a bad plug lol. I gotta figure out the watering for these tho it's definitely different than those bigger plugs, those never got over watered for me and since these are way smaller I dunno what's up, I think they are extra absorbent

The dead one



The other that had nice roots but real small for 12 days, these are both ghostrider, I wonder if the dud made it to the gr, any issues you been having with that cut?

 

[adower]

Well I gave all of them a tug and most are rooted in place, one did come out besides this one and the plug wasn't soaked and the roots were bright white, but only like 3" long so I put it back in since it looks healthy. This one came right out, so weird, it was at the back of the tray which has a Lower flood level so I dunno, I'll chalk it up to a bad plug lol. I gotta figure out the watering for these tho it's definitely different than those bigger plugs, those never got over watered for me and since these are way smaller I dunno what's up, I think they are extra absorbent

The dead one

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The other that had nice roots but real small for 12 days, these are both ghostrider, I wonder if the dud made it to the gr, any issues you been having with that cut?

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Those look like jiffy cubes. Hate those things.

 

[AlphaPhase]

Those look like jiffy cubes. Hate those things.

There's definitly something wrong with these cubes, I usually have issues with rw and all the plants in rw cubes are growing fast and have really big roots, i don't get what's going on!? I'd figure rw would hold way more water than these cube things but i never overwatered the plants in rw cubes, i was underfeeding at first but they still grew hella fast, i dunno, i hope i figure it out, i don't want to go back into a glue dud vortex again because I just got out of the glue dud issues and threw out the last glue plant lol. But this is how it all started so i'm getting nervous now. This always happened with the glue but never anything else so I'm hoping it's just the plug giving me issues If I don't see roots coming out of the 1 gal pots in a week (which would be 3 weeks, the same amount of time it took to veg the mendo in rw cubes out to a flowering size) i'm gonna have to play it safe and toss em I can't handle the stress again lol, this happened last time so I don't even know if it's the cubes but I'll give em a chance

 

[adower]

There's definitly something wrong with these cubes, I usually have issues with rw and all the plants in rw cubes are growing fast and have really big roots, i don't get what's going on!? I'd figure rw would hold way more water than these cube things but i never overwatered the plants in rw cubes, i was underfeeding at first but they still grew hella fast, i dunno, i hope i figure it out, i don't want to go back into a glue dud vortex again because I just got out of the glue dud issues and threw out the last glue plant lol. But this is how it all started so i'm getting nervous now. This always happened with the glue but never anything else so I'm hoping it's just the plug giving me issues If I don't see roots coming out of the 1 gal pots in a week (which would be 3 weeks, the same amount of time it took to veg the mendo in rw cubes out to a flowering size) i'm gonna have to play it safe and toss em I can't handle the stress again lol, this happened last time so I don't even know if it's the cubes but I'll give em a chance

I've never had luck with those things. For me the hardest thing is not trying something new to a point. Like if it works just stick with it type thing. For example I am doing ebb and flo with excellent results. However I want to try a current culture system cause it's new to me. But it will all come with a big learning curve and I'll have to buy new gear and it might not yield as much. Hope you figure it out and it's not the glue issue creeping to the other plants.

Also I don't think those cubes are more water absorbing than rock wool. Those cubes feel more like a sponge and would dry out faster than rock wool.

 

[Aeroknow]

Well I gave all of them a tug and most are rooted in place, one did come out besides this one and the plug wasn't soaked and the roots were bright white, but only like 3" long so I put it back in since it looks healthy. This one came right out, so weird, it was at the back of the tray which has a Lower flood level so I dunno, I'll chalk it up to a bad plug lol. I gotta figure out the watering for these tho it's definitely different than those bigger plugs, those never got over watered for me and since these are way smaller I dunno what's up, I think they are extra absorbent

The dead one

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The other that had nice roots but real small for 12 days, these are both ghostrider, I wonder if the dud made it to the gr, any issues you been having with that cut?

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Those are rapid rooter plugs. The other cuts were in the same material, but from their mat. Rapid rooter mat, same thing pretty much. Ain't the cube/plug's fault. All of the other cuts from that batch blew the fuck up.
What are you doing dif this time? Pumped up the ppm's? What else?
I've grown tired of occasional problems like that when trying to get rooted cuts to get going in hydroton over the years. Thats why i don't grow in it anymore
Ready to grow in pots full of coco or dirt yet? Fuckin loving this tupur bro. Picking up another pallet tomorrow.

 

[AlphaPhase]

Everything is the same, RW and plants with no plugs all getting the same but everything else is 5x the ssize with 2 foot roots coming out after about 3 weeks, I dunno what's up if it's the same material - they should be growing and rooting at the pace they usually do, above the hydroton they look fine, green, below I don't know why they aren't growing roots is what's making me scratch my head, it's the same thing the glue did but ghostrider roots like a mofo, had my fastest growing veg and biggest yield in a long time with the cut so I Def don't wanna change anything, I think maybe a couple of the gr have the dud issue so I tossed out the suspect ones and will see how the rest go for another week, if the plugs are the same material there isn't really anything else I can think of that would cause it

 

[AlphaPhase]

I hear that, there's so much I want to try lol. I have 1 system I tweak here and there and the rest I'll stick to the same recipe so I get the usual results. I didn't think the cubes held more water either, it's driving me crazy, I got massive roots out of the RW cubes right now, and like 12" of growth, but in the plugs I got an inch of growth and zero roots out of the pots, it's like wtf is going on, especially when they look completely fine and all variables are the same ! Lol, @adower

 

[AlphaPhase]

Rapid rooter plugs, one of each strain so I know it's nothing to do with what I'm giving them as they are 100% healthy


And here's the rw plants that are about 7 days older



All I know is if /when the roots come out of the pots on the rapid rooter plants, if they are brown then the dud sickness is in them, it's 100% the easiest way to tell in hydro Imo, I hope it's not that

 

[Aeroknow]

I don't think there's any duds mang
These mommas I got rgoing rite now are so very healthy.
Next time, You should borrow a momma, snap cuts and root them in ur aero cloner.

 

[AlphaPhase]

I don't think there's any duds mang
These mommas I got rgoing rite now are so very healthy.
Next time, You should borrow a momma, snap cuts and root them in ur aero cloner.

werd i have my hopes high, most of em are looking good up top so i think what i'll do is just keep the best of the best and def next time snap cuts for the cloner, it's so weird that rw is working all a sudden when i always had issues with those, but the plugs i never had issues with until the rapid rooter plugs wtf lol

 

[eastcoastmo]

You got some bizzare things happening with the plugs man, I wish I could help but you'd know more than me anyway ha ha.
Keep on truckin mate, you'll get there

 

[AlphaPhase]

You got some bizzare things happening with the plugs man, I wish I could help but you'd know more than me anyway ha ha.
Keep on truckin mate, you'll get there

Oh bro, tell me about it lol, things were going so well for 2 weeks, they look nice, then when I didn't see any roots I got to looking for issues I lowered the flood line and dried all of the plugs right out today (only took 1 day for them to dry out so that's a plus) and will see if that helps. If it's something dumb like the plugs were too wet, I'll take a note and not do that again lol. Just really weird I've used plugs made of the same material before and I kept then wet until harvest time all the way through, never was a problem the good news is I flower the mendo in 2 days and 11/12 of them look fantastic picked up 1/2" foam board to suspend the pots and just have to connect the buckets, the show should be pretty sweet! Only down fall is I wish I had them vegged a bit more but I think 12 plants should fill out the canopy decently (i hope)

 

[AlphaPhase]

And I also got these new gals cooking in the oven, in a couple weeks I'll take cuts and these will be the real show! I'll finally have a couple mama's for a little while so I should have to go through any unnecessary down Falls lol

Diamond OG on the left and the very beautiful black lime reserve, I really really like the looks of the blr so far

 

[eastcoastmo]

Oh bro, tell me about it lol, things were going so well for 2 weeks, they look nice, then when I didn't see any roots I got to looking for issues I lowered the flood line and dried all of the plugs right out today (only took 1 day for them to dry out so that's a plus) and will see if that helps. If it's something dumb like the plugs were too wet, I'll take a note and not do that again lol. Just really weird I've used plugs made of the same material before and I kept then wet until harvest time all the way through, never was a problem the good news is I flower the mendo in 2 days and 11/12 of them look fantastic picked up 1/2" foam board to suspend the pots and just have to connect the buckets, the show should be pretty sweet! Only down fall is I wish I had them vegged a bit more but I think 12 plants should fill out the canopy decently (i hope)

Yeah that is odd bro, i get the shits pretty hard when I can't work it out too LOL, I can be pretty impatient ha ha. I sure you'll get it sorted bro, trial and error is the way

And I also got these new gals cooking in the oven, in a couple weeks I'll take cuts and these will be the real show! I'll finally have a couple mama's for a little while so I should have to go through any unnecessary down Falls lol

Diamond OG on the left and the very beautiful black lime reserve, I really really like the looks of the blr so far

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Mmmm diamond og and black lime reserve..WOW, they sound PIMP!!

 

[supdro]

And I also got these new gals cooking in the oven, in a couple weeks I'll take cuts and these will be the real show! I'll finally have a couple mama's for a little while so I should have to go through any unnecessary down Falls lol

Diamond OG on the left and the very beautiful black lime reserve, I really really like the looks of the blr so far

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Those cuts look awesome how are you liking the veg+bloom so far? It's so funny I have 3 sample bottles of that that I haven't used of the RO. Have you switched over your flower tanks yet?

 

[AlphaPhase]

Those cuts look awesome how are you liking the veg+bloom so far? It's so funny I have 3 sample bottles of that that I haven't used of the RO. Have you switched over your flower tanks yet?

Thanks man, I love the veg+bloom, I think the whole first section of this thread used v+b, also, the purple paralysis ebb and flow thread along with the sour power biker and 24k white gold thread (they're pretty old threads), figured I'd go back to it for a while. I won't be using it in flower for now, the maxi works fine there and is WAYYYYYY cheaper lol

 

[Dr.D81]

Those look like jiffy cubes. Hate those things.

Me to! I see people use them and all they do for me is kill shit

 

[Aeroknow]

Me to! I see people use them and all they do for me is kill shit

You're talking jiffy/peat pellets right? Because yeah, i've never even once wanted to try them things lol. But rapid rooter is a whole nother story. Love them things. Better than rooting in rockwool IMO. I started out with oasis cubes many moons ago, and I would still take those over rockwool, but ever since rapid rooter type came out its what I use most of the time now. Its the best, I love it!

 

[adower]

You're talking jiffy/peat pellets right? Because yeah, i've never even once wanted to try them things lol. But rapid rooter is a whole nother story. Love them things. Better than rooting in rockwool IMO. I started out with oasis cubes many moons ago, and I would still take those over rockwool, but ever since rapid rooter type came out its what I use most of the time now. Its the best, I love it!

It's all about the Ez cloner!